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this. is there any good literature on what is supposed to happen once we enter the age of transaction fees?

One other thing, though. Even though the failures of 2011 did have a serious impact on Bitcoin, they did not outright wipe it off the map. This isn't a trivial point. Just imagine what would have happened with the US dollar if the New York Stock Exchange had been hacked and all stocks had been sold down to a few cents each... or the impact on the gold market if someone had stolen about 5 percent of the world supply of gold in any given two month period (putting together MyBitcoin, allinvain and Bitomat). The implications would have been far deeper and lasted far longer.

Will there be other hacks? Probably. Other thefts? Almost certainly. I can also give you an almost 100 percent certainty that there will be a crash of a large jetliner some time in the next two years, but that doesn't mean that commercial aviation is unsafe, and it sure as hell doesn't mean it's just as unsafe as it was in the 1930's, the 1960's or the 1980's.

So the glass is half full again in this thread... 

I'm well aware of the numerous possibilities that could lead to Bitcoin's demise. The most severe ones are fundamental technical problems, legal problems and the possibility of a new technology that renders Bitcoin obsolete. These are the big issues and challenges which we need to keep a close eye on.

It has also been proven that the issues don't have to be catastrophical for the exchange rate to crash. None of the bad stuff that happened in 2011 were catastrophical to Bitcoin itself, the issues were with 3rd parties. Certain important 3rd parties have a very important role in the economy which means that if they have big issues it can set Bitcoin back at least temporarily.

However I believe that the understanding of Bitcoin has significantly improved since May. And it's going to improve in the future. This will make the impact of 3rd party failures at least somewhat smaller. Even in this case we will always have to worry about the severe issues that I listed in the first paragraph.

The hype about 'bitcoin on TV' (not really, but anyway) and one small booth at CES had already been well and truly priced into bitcoin's price.  We'll need further product or service announcements or the correction downwards will continue.

God, a bitcoin at $2? My powder is dry and ready.

Oh, please let it happen... I really need to stock up again. The kiddos will be getting a bit extra in their savings addresses.

how to integrate bitcoins into a common webpage:


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end of tutorial...

if you'd liek to have a more nifty approach:
http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2011/12/monetizing-blog-with-bitcoin.html

Three years from start ant there is no tutorials on how to integrate bitcoins into the common web engines.
Nothing significant will happen in this year also.

Yikes.  Hopefully we don't go below $2.

Edit:  Actually, if you're right, then we probably will go below $2.  Everyone out!

Here it comes. Friday has begun. We had the bear trap, and there go the parabolic replenishing asks...

I saw this pattern just twice before. Both in June. One burst the bubble, the other started that bust we all remember too well. The second peak of the bursting was on a Thursday, I remember very well how I was sitting in a lecture when it peaked just below the all-time high, and it just missed one sell between 31 and 32, where I was being just one dollar too greedy on one of my orders.

You bulls better pray I'm seeing ghosts, or that there is someone to change the rules this time. A Millionaire, a TV viewer invasion, or something else of the kind.

To make it clear: no more balanced position, I already sold over 50% and have now officially turned bear again.

good call , set your Jessi alarms & chill to some Doves sounds

I honestly don't have big expectations from the TV show. It's a fictional drama that has a viewer base which probably don't understand nor care about Bitcoin even after watching the show. I'm of course interested in the show but expecting the prices to skyrocket because of it is expecting too much. It'll depend on how the show is but to me there is a low possibility of it being very beneficial to Bitcoin. However I could be wrong and I'm happy if that happens to be the case. We'll see.

But this doesn't change the fact that we're going up, maybe not rocketing up but Bitcoin is way too significant and a fundamentally growing technology to ever be stable at single digits. The market cap is simply way too low at these levels, at this point in time.

This year Bitcoin will go to a whole another level, for me it's totally insignificant if it happens next week or 6 months from now. I'm not a trader unless I'm forced to do it, I'm an investor and an enterpreneur. I plan on not selling a single satoshi unless I actually need the money or am forced to start trading due to an apparent downtrend/bubble collapse. The ideal scenario would be that I could hold my BTC for long enough to simply use it directly when I need it, without the need to ever change it into fiat again.

This ideal scenario is of course quite optimistic, I believe we will see a couple of bubbles before I'm able to use BTC for the majority of my purchases. This will mean that at some point I have to hide the bull temporarily, once again. Happy to be a bull on all accounts right now though, expecting it to last for quite a while. The next wave of interest will be hell of a lot bigger than the first big wave because something like this doesn't just come back from the dead if it's nothing, investors will be more interested than ever before.

There is another possibility that I'm considering though and this is that we could go very high without it actually being a bubble, for the most part. A good part of the "Bitcoin collapse" was because there were a good number of serious incidents that basically caused a serious reliability issue for the whole economy. The market was overbought, yes, but without all of those incidents I simply can't believe it would've ever gone as low as $2.

So we will have some kind of a bubble for sure but I think it's very likely that without multiple serious incidents we will never have the type of bubble we had in June and after. It's simply not going to happen. Bitcoin could, and I'm serious about this, simply go up and up, with small and some bigger corrections on the way of course, until it reaches the point where it doesn't see significant growth anymore, from either investments or usage. This could take approximately 5-10 years.

I simply don't think that it's possible for us to see Bitcoin go up 1000% and then lose 90% of its value. Unless a lot of very bad shit happens, just like we saw happen in 2011. So my advice is to look for this bad shit very carefully, if it doesn't come I think it's a good idea to be long on bitcoins, very long in fact.

Yeah, no zhoutonging to worry about there! worst case scenario i've upped my long term core holding at a slightly higher price.

I still got my bids lined up on bitcoinica in case of any dip

Heh, 100%

argh I cannot resist... FOMO'd

100% long on gox...

MACD crossover incoming...



RSI still flirting with 70.

Still, we could quite easily punch through $7.20 at any second, and I think that will result in a serious squeeze.

I wouldn't like to call this one. I'll stay on the sidelines for now.

Yes, and if the price dips below the support on this wedge you should probably short.

There is always an alternate scenario.