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Topic: Hidden boards as a reward for high merited users and reporters (Read 1047 times)

PnP
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Nobody asked for your advice either, but this is a silly statement, especially on a discussion forum (you know, where people discuss things). Also comparing the suggestion of sub boards only accessibly to those who have earned merit to prison camps is beyond ignorant. You're the type of fool who calls mods nazis just because they removed their rule-breaking ref link or something similar. The forum has become unfit for purpose due to all those who come here just to farm accounts by the hundreds just to claim bounties. A place free of those types of people would be a good thing for those that want to actually have an intelligent discussion.

If the insults have gone into the course, then the characterization of the forum is correct. Gulag is, with all its attributes.
legendary
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Nobody asked for your advice either, but this is a silly statement, especially on a discussion forum (you know, where people discuss things). Also comparing the suggestion of sub boards only accessibly to those who have earned merit to prison camps is beyond ignorant. You're the type of fool who calls mods nazis just because they removed their rule-breaking ref link or something similar. The forum has become unfit for purpose due to all those who come here just to farm accounts by the hundreds just to claim bounties. A place free of those types of people would be a good thing for those that want to actually have an intelligent discussion.
I feel sorry for this guy for being such a dumbass idiot. Just look on what he's doing,... trolling on this thread. I guess ignoring him isn't just the solution for this. Anyway, all of the words that you've said won't definitely reach him for the reason his too stupid to understand it.

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I'll change the title from 'hidden' to something else.
Maybe change it into "Restricted Board" , I think it is a bit okay.
legendary
Activity: 2926
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Just another thing come in mind, that board are you suggested absolutely is a great idea. But in my opinion board should be visible & readable  for all member's. Just rule will be for poster. Because if you hide it than others member will not learn, there might be HQ discussion. There will be many thing for learn. So there will be restriction only for poster. No one will able to post without specific category that you mentioned thread. But visible for all. If implement this board other people also will motivate for make quality post & report bad post.

Yeah, I actually think they should be public now, just not able to be posted in until they've achieved the merit requirement. I'll change the title from 'hidden' to something else.

A certain amount of reports can be an additional barrier too, real question is to get theymos to implement it. You can begin with annoying him everyday.  Tongue

He probably already finds me annoying and barely responds to anything I suggest or request anyway, and this would likely be a low priority for him. Simple things that will help the forum greatly just don't even get addressed, never mind implemented.

Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.

It's silly to give stupid advice, especially when they were not asked from you.

Nobody asked for your advice either, but this is a silly statement, especially on a discussion forum (you know, where people discuss things). Also comparing the suggestion of sub boards only accessibly to those who have earned merit to prison camps is beyond ignorant. You're the type of fool who calls mods nazis just because they removed their rule-breaking ref link or something similar. The forum has become unfit for purpose due to all those who come here just to farm accounts by the hundreds just to claim bounties. A place free of those types of people would be a good thing for those that want to actually have an intelligent discussion.
PnP
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legendary
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Just another thing come in mind, that board are you suggested absolutely is a great idea. But in my opinion board should be visible & readable  for all member's. Just rule will be for poster. Because if you hide it than others member will not learn, there might be HQ discussion. There will be many thing for learn. So there will be restriction only for poster. No one will able to post without specific category that you mentioned thread. But visible for all. If implement this board other people also will motivate for make quality post & report bad post.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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Nobody makes you read me. On the left there is an ignore button.

Thanks for that info - I used it.
PnP
jr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 3
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This is a thread about discussion boards.

Nobody makes you read me. On the left there is an ignore button.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
Then perhaps there should be an additional merit requirement for the reporter board. Something low like 20 merits so as to not inconvenience legitimate users but it would be a significant hurdle for bot farmers.

Another option (if SMF allows) would be to make it invite-only and manually approve participants.

This would certainly make it a lot harder for bot-like increases to get into something like this, as they hopefully will not be getting any merit. Although, why not just go by rank, needs to be a Jr. Member + X number of reports (I don't really want to guess on a number because I'd prefer to see everyones current counts first Tongue).


There have been 5 posts on the Donators board so far in 2018.  I made 3 of them...
This may be something temporary at this point in time, similar to donator, which I'm *assuming* may have had more activity in the past when it was created?  or no?  Huh  
Regardless, it doesn't mean this type of reporters board wouldn't be more active now, and wouldn't cost someone 10BTC to get into Cheesy. It seems like it would be a positive step towards cleaning the forum up, assuming it creates enough additional people reporting to close the gap on the bot/spam activity.


Keep in mind, I'll probably never make it into any reporters board. I'm not what one would consider an "active reporter"... at least I don't think I am?... I report posts, but not as often as I probably should. I need to balance my time/life, and unfortunately reporting posts is not at the top of my priority list when reading through various threads. For me, (because I probably overanalyze everything) the thought process that goes along with reporting posts eats up too much of my time (and distracts me from the reason I'm reading the thread in the first place).

IMO, it is the mods/staff job... they are the paid experts. But, when you hear that others are essentially incentivizing bots to post crap, it doesn't seem like a fair fight. Probably not a fair fight even without the bots... but, if there are those with time willing to dig their heels in to help the mods/staff do their job, more power to them.
legendary
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We need to look at the report stats. How many active users does 1500 good report have? How many have 3000 good report? How many have 5000 good report?

Calculate their number and based on it to determine the "entry threshold". Nothing too much but not too little private group members.
Vod, Dmdmdr, LoyceV. We can simply rely on those dudes to get these stats. And probably it will come sooner as we wanted.
I'll just support the REPORT BASED SECTION and I think I'll pass on that MERIT BASED SECTION  Tongue . Really don't know what I'm lacking,currently I'm stuck at 34  Tongue oh well, don't mind me Smiley I'm not that active as you guys here.


It's silly to give stupid advice, especially when they were not asked from you.
Don't expect something that isn't stupid(well, suchmoon's statement doesn't looks like a stupid to me, In fact, he do have a point from what he's saying.) In the first place your thinking is already outgone from nowhere and now you're here asking for sympathy to someone, to anybody that might help you understand what's going on. Give us a break will yah!
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.

It's silly to give stupid advice, especially when they were not asked from you.

It's not an advice. Consult a lawyer/doctor/palm reader if you need to. I don't care what you do as long as it's within forum rules. It's an explanation why your analogy is stupid. Not to mention that spoiled brats like yourself comparing their internet tantrums to gulag suffering is an insult to millions of people who actually endured those camps. This is a thread about discussion boards. Nobody is forcing you into doing anything you don't want to and you're not being sent to Siberia.

Who will explain to me, why throw Merit legendary??

It's so stupid.

Not sure what your point is here so I'm inclined to agree with Lafu's interpretation above. Also stop multiposting. I have a feeling there are moderators watching this thread.
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 3213
PnP
jr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 3
Merit - Scam
Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.

It's silly to give stupid advice, especially when they were not asked from you.
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 3213
Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.


You can't cure stupidity  !      Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.
PnP
jr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 3
Merit - Scam

Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Maybe all this will be implemented in the NEW FORUM SOFTWARE!

Ok, I'm going, no need to yell at me. Happy Friday!
legendary
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Merit: 1551
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I don't, but anyone can create a chatroom. Chatrooms have their place but they're not that useful for decent discussion. The donator board is separate. They never donated to have exclusive access to the only hidden board. And nobody is getting access to the staff board other than staff, so if you want to view that board then get reporting.
Guess the staff board would be under the curtain forever then. Great!

 But yeah, chatroom in its general definition isn't the best thing for bitcointalk and its users.

There should be another rank. Legendary doesn't mean that much these days and is becoming much more common with every month that passes. I think the next rank should require a very large amount of merit in addition to activity so only quality contributors will achieve it. I've suggested in the past that Legendary is fixed to 960 activity and the newer rank is 1920 activity (or Legendary could remain the highest rank and there's a new rank to replace it).
A certain amount of reports can be an additional barrier too, real question is to get theymos to implement it. You can begin with annoying him everyday.  Tongue
legendary
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I kinda disagree. Imagine a thread like SpamBuster in a chat session. The things would get messy quite quickly. What I can agree on is your second idea, Along with a separate board for high merit users, introduce a chatbox for that specific section. This way it will become an effective tool to fight spam.
I don't think it would become a mess if the entry threshold was kept quite high.
Reporters only board seems to be a good idea along with the merit receivers board. In addition, to the above boards how about having a chat platform integrated along with these additional boards as pugman has suggested? These chat platforms and boards can be used and seen only if the user reaches a certain threshold of minimum merit and minimum reports something around like 300-350 for merits and 1000+ for reports. The boards can be placed somewhere in the Others section and the access of chat platform can be kept nearer to the search button. There is only a minimum possibility of a user who has received 300-350 merits or one who has reported 1000+ reports spamming the chats. There can be atleast one dedicated mod for chats to take place fairly. I don't think it's necessary to place a separate mod for merits and report board as I assume that there would be only good discussions regarding the improvement of the quality in posts and the defending of the newbies and bump bots.

An accessible chat platform can be something like this...



Actually I used inspect element feature to check that how one could look in real time scenario. Moreover, Donate section is no longer useful, as none would donate 70000$ for the forum with the current btc prices. Hence removing the Donate button and page completely and replacing them with chats would be a good idea.

Inside the chat section may look something like this...



And in order to differentiate the ranks, we can use certain colors for each rank like
Admin - Red , Legendary - Blue and so on... These types of chat sections can bring unity among the like minded members of the forum and may be helpful in patrolling, reporting and quality posting.
legendary
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We already have merit based boards - they are called ANN boards.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1079
Merit-based boards is definitely a good idea. I think just restricting one sub board to a particular non-main board where general users don't go through would be good for merited users to have all the spam-free discussions regarding Bitcoin, technicality, altcoins, economics, off-topic; read only. For perks/rewarding, it's good, but still would lack the visibility main boards get.

But for overall forum, as the main sections are overflowing with misinformation/low quality posts, maybe also having merit-based sub boards for each main board (Bitcoin discussion, beginners, technical, altcoin discussion, politics/society, economics) would be good to engage quality contributors to post their opinion without it getting drowned in spam and keeping the information accurate for legit users.

A single merit-based board would have all the discussions (Bitcoin discussion, beginners, technical, altcoin discussion, politics/society, economics) at one place, bots crawl, but user visibility matters and having meritorious sub boards in main sections, I doubt it's going to encourage spammers to earn merit and be a part of it, but would still keep the discussions going, not in quantity, but quality for the one's who need it (until the main boards get a bit more free of spam).

Posting everything related to "report to moderator" on meta, definitely reporter-based board is the solution. Having all the reporters at one place without disclosing what the spammers want to know, but for not getting easy entry, the number of reports should be high where the pattern of spam reporting could be detected.
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