btcfpga.com > butterflylabs
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
October shipment > November/December shipment
hahaha!
Topic: High Efficiency FPGA & ASIC Bitcoin Mining Devices https://BTCFPGA.com - page 85. (Read 218469 times)
September 04, 2012, 04:55:54 PM
October shipment > November/December shipment
hahaha!
September 04, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
btcfpga.com > butterflylabs
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
October shipment > November/December shipment
September 04, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
btcfpga.com > butterflylabs
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
September 04, 2012, 04:08:07 PM
I think a video would be very boring. I don't have to patience to watch one.
Boring? Patience? You know what we wrote about? Sounds like you didnt get the point of such video.
September 04, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
I think a video would be very boring. I don't have to patience to watch one.
September 04, 2012, 01:47:59 PM
I think it would be hard to fake. I mean when you would use a videorecorder and record the asic together with a laptopscreen or similar then you could open a pool-website there and see the hashrate. Then enable the asic and watch the pool hashrate rising. I think it would be hard to fake this.
Ok, when he really has so much orders that he has problems to deliver maybe. But he didnt want it from the start. And then there shouldnt be so much orders. So i still dont understand this. Its somewhat unlogic to me.
Ok, when he really has so much orders that he has problems to deliver maybe. But he didnt want it from the start. And then there shouldnt be so much orders. So i still dont understand this. Its somewhat unlogic to me.
September 04, 2012, 01:00:25 PM
Looking at the qty per week he intends to build, I'm pretty sure he'll be getting more than enough orders to fill his queue. Just from his existing and happy customer base.
Little risk perhaps. But also little gain for the pain/hassle of doing it.
Anything he puts together and shows will instantly be inundated with statements about how easily it could have been faked. Why bother?
Little risk perhaps. But also little gain for the pain/hassle of doing it.
Anything he puts together and shows will instantly be inundated with statements about how easily it could have been faked. Why bother?
September 04, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Hm... i dont know cablepair so i cant say a word about how trustworthy he is but... when he really has a working prototype a video showing proof how the overall hashrate of a pool is rising high after letting the prototype work would highjump his sales. And, as far as i know, there would be no possibility to copy something even when the chip would be shown in the video isnt it?
So i only see that someone who wants to sell something has the possibility, without risking something, to raise the number of sold units very much... but dont want to do it.
Is there some risk im not aware of? Otherwise that sounds too strange to me.
So i only see that someone who wants to sell something has the possibility, without risking something, to raise the number of sold units very much... but dont want to do it.
Is there some risk im not aware of? Otherwise that sounds too strange to me.
September 04, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio
How do you know?Being off by a factor of four, or more, is not unprecedented in statements from BFL.
Also, as Tom said, 27GH/s was the minimum. Who knows, maybe software will bump that number up a decent amount. Only time will tell.
Patience young grasshopper...
September 04, 2012, 12:11:31 PM
no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio
How do you know?Being off by a factor of four, or more, is not unprecedented in statements from BFL.
September 04, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
While this is great news, I find it almost amusing that just like with FPGA, no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio
While this is slower, it's also cheaper. A comparison in GHs/USD is about a 20% difference, which is less than half what difference between the Single vs MMQ was.
September 04, 2012, 12:05:04 PM
While this is great news, I find it almost amusing that just like with FPGA, no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio
September 04, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
To answer some questions...
No these are not FPGA "hard Copy" chips
These would be considered Cell Based ASIC
I am not going into specific details about certain aspects of the prototype asics / mining unit because some of this may change from prototype to production
Please note I do not claim to be the technical mind behind all of this, this protoype has been achieved through leases, and contractors
the SHA256 hashing core was (not designed by me) it was leased through a overseas design firm
the prototype asics themselves were made in a multi project wafer run program through a university
we are still shopping around for a long term manufacturer of these asics
the mining units will be assembled at the same place that assembles the modminer quad.
I am still working on getting caught up with emails, if you send me an email you should receive a reply some time today
I will answer PM's as well but it's almost always better to email me.
thanks!
*** we are only guaranteeing a minimal performance of 27Gh/s all other hardware details are subject to change possibly without notice
(we are still prototyping after all)
No these are not FPGA "hard Copy" chips
These would be considered Cell Based ASIC
I am not going into specific details about certain aspects of the prototype asics / mining unit because some of this may change from prototype to production
Please note I do not claim to be the technical mind behind all of this, this protoype has been achieved through leases, and contractors
the SHA256 hashing core was (not designed by me) it was leased through a overseas design firm
the prototype asics themselves were made in a multi project wafer run program through a university
we are still shopping around for a long term manufacturer of these asics
the mining units will be assembled at the same place that assembles the modminer quad.
I am still working on getting caught up with emails, if you send me an email you should receive a reply some time today
I will answer PM's as well but it's almost always better to email me.
thanks!
*** we are only guaranteeing a minimal performance of 27Gh/s all other hardware details are subject to change possibly without notice
(we are still prototyping after all)
September 04, 2012, 10:54:15 AM
Let me just say that I didn't plan to purchase any ASIC and considered getting out of mining (at least putting all my gear on sale minus my 2 Cainsmore1 until they were not profitable anymore). That is until BTCFPGA had something to offer: *** being the single player was just not healthy in my opinion.
Just pre-ordered from you guys...
Just pre-ordered from you guys...
September 04, 2012, 04:05:30 AM
Congratulations. Awesome news. Well done on the price point. 
Price point yes, don't forget the 1 year warranty.
Depending on the CC you use when paying. MC/VISA increases the manufacturers warranty by 1 year.
September 04, 2012, 04:02:01 AM
Congratulations. Awesome news. Well done on the price point.
September 04, 2012, 03:49:37 AM
While I think it is really shady to be taking pre-orders this early and tie up peoples money (at 1% a week from the regular lenders, that's an extra bit of change) for all that time with no release date... but I bet a lot of people will order anyway if you just provide this basic proof requested..
Really?That's infinitely amusing considering the mining community has made the BFL folks fiat (maybe even btc) millionaires with impunity. How dare anyone try to compete with the BFL overlords.
Baaaa.
September 04, 2012, 01:55:49 AM
Can I have a free one for being you anti-spam bot on CoinConnect 
I did help bootstrap btcfpga.com back in March 
I did help bootstrap btcfpga.com back in March September 04, 2012, 01:55:17 AM
See post 354 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1157886 . In part:
I interpret this to mean that they do have some form of prototype. I am also in the hardware design business and can understand why cablepair might not want to show photos of a prototype. Often a prototype looks NOTHING like the intended final product. There are sometimes circuits added that are useful for a prototype that are just extra "baggage" for a product. As twitchy as the bitcoin community is, I can understand not showing the prototype. That said, I would still LOVE to see photos and videos.
Disclosure: I have ordered a BFL SC single even though I have LESS information about their product. It is possible I will also buy a bASIC product when more information is released later in the week.
Can't we all just get along?
Edit: RicRock beat me to it...
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[...] once we had the core design we spent some money to have some made (this took some time) and turned those over to the hardware development team. [...]
I interpret this to mean that they do have some form of prototype. I am also in the hardware design business and can understand why cablepair might not want to show photos of a prototype. Often a prototype looks NOTHING like the intended final product. There are sometimes circuits added that are useful for a prototype that are just extra "baggage" for a product. As twitchy as the bitcoin community is, I can understand not showing the prototype. That said, I would still LOVE to see photos and videos.
Disclosure: I have ordered a BFL SC single even though I have LESS information about their product. It is possible I will also buy a bASIC product when more information is released later in the week.
Can't we all just get along?
Edit: RicRock beat me to it...
September 04, 2012, 01:45:41 AM
27Gh/s is not an estimate its based on real testing of a real prototype
and again we are using very basic software at this point, the speed is likely to increase once my software guys get to work on the firmware and mining software
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