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July 12, 2015, 07:30:21 AM
#17
Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?

Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.

Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. In the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read

Can I ask you one thing? What will you do if you will receive a negative trust (only because the other part doesn't trust you, so you are a potential scammer) and you can't continue to participate to any signature campaign?

//Just an hypothetical/absurd case.

Well, i have 4 negative trust ratings already, of course they are untrusted so it doesnt really affect me but in the case that i would get a negative trust from a trusted member, i would probably deserve it and there would be no reason to complain so i wouldn't do anything unless it was an absurd trust rating.
legendary
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#Free market
July 12, 2015, 07:02:29 AM
#16
battle with the mod

Future movie idea?
...


You made my day 



However good luck guys, I have replied here only due the PM that I've received... at the end it is not my problem if hilariousandco doesn't trust Phix.
legendary
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July 12, 2015, 07:00:10 AM
#15
Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?

Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.

Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. In the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read
This-


Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Hey, you're still extremely dark green, man. Don't complain.


lol
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July 12, 2015, 06:59:31 AM
#14
battle with the mod

Future movie idea?

Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Hey, you're still extremely dark green, man. Don't complain.

legendary
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#Free market
July 12, 2015, 06:58:18 AM
#13
Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?

Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.

Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. In the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read

Can I ask you one thing? What will you do if you will receive a negative trust (only because the other part doesn't trust you, so you are a potential scammer) and you can't continue to participate to any signature campaign?

//Just an hypothetical/absurd case.
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July 12, 2015, 06:54:12 AM
#12
Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?

Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.

Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. In the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read
legendary
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#Free market
July 12, 2015, 06:53:48 AM
#11

Yes I confirm that I've received a logo from you and good luck with this battle with the mod (hilariousandco).
legendary
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July 12, 2015, 06:50:56 AM
#10
Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?

Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.

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Why would it be a good idea for someone to trust someone with their money when you have no prior trading history? Don't you think it would be better if someone were to "roll the dice" with their trading partner and hope they are acting honestly? Don't you think it would be reckless for someone to trust a person with no history of acting honestly with other people's money with their own money?

The question of if your account was sold or not is only distracting from the question of if you should be trusted with other people's money, and if people should trade with caution when considering to deal with you. I would personally think that you should not be trusted with other people's money and that people should proceed with caution when considering to deal with you. The negative rating hat hilariousandco gave you (and the one that I am about to give you) is a warning to others who are considering to trade and/or trust you.

Just wondering that what makes you a better escrow than this guy? You are no better. An escrow's past trading history is no gaurentee of him being honest in the future until someone knows the escrows real world identity(which certainly does makes a scammer worried before scamming people).
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July 12, 2015, 06:43:45 AM
#9
The best thing that i liked is that hilariousandco never jerks off Trust easily , if he does there is cause , i havent analysed your post but as jotted down by hilariousandco in your trust

I don't leave much feedback and tend to go for neutral more than straight up negative but me not leaving negative has lead to several users being scammed shortly after. There's two instances in the last month where I've regretted not leaving negative feedback but leaving negative feedback is more hassle than it's worth half of the time especially when you get children whining and everytime you leave it all you do is make yourself another enemy. People like QS and vod likely stopped countless users from being scammed but all the thanks they get is they're doing it for their own personal benefit or people like tecshare twist it for their own personal agenda.

The trust is still valid regardless of whether the account was purchased or not and which I stated it was possibly bought.

Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Was wondering how long it'd take you to chime in. Next time you do a deal on here use this guy as an escrow. Also let's not forget you were removed for your own trust abuse vigilantism.

There are lots of people I don't trust that I don't give negative ratings to. Didn't take you very long to make this about me. BTW, I wasn't going around playing scambuster, I left a negative rating for some one actively harassing me, so try again OCD king.

Every time you make these pathetic and futile posts you make it about you. You only make them because you're still butthurt about being removed over your own personal abuse of the system. How do your comments help anything? Do you really think abusing the feedback system for your own personal motives is fine but attempting to stop likely scams is bad? I love how you think attempting to stop people from getting scammed is abuse but of course it suits your agenda to vilify anyone who actually uses the system for how it was intended.

Again, use this guy as an escrow for your next deals if my feedback here isn't justified.

What are you talking about? Have you seen the lending section? Pretty much any newbie or low rank member that asks for loan without collateral is given neg trust by one or various members, this is no different so i don't see why are you so concerned about this specific case when there are hundreds out there.

He did not destroy anyone reputation because the user didn't have any in the first place and im pretty sure if he stops doing what he did and talks to hilarious maybe in the future he will get his trust removed just like vod did.

Exactly, but I think tecshare thinks we should only leave feedback after someone has scammed and after we have taken that person to court and they have been found guilty by a jury of their peers but only then will feedback be justified... well, unless someone says something you don't like or trolls you then it's totally fine to use the feedback system to try get them to shut up.
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July 12, 2015, 06:33:37 AM
#8
The trust is still valid regardless of whether the account was purchased or not and which I stated it was possibly bought.

Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Was wondering how long it'd take you to chime in. Next time you do a deal on here use this guy as an escrow. Also let's not forget you were removed for your own trust abuse vigilantism.

There are lots of people I don't trust that I don't give negative ratings to, and if I did and I wasn't 100% positive, I would use neutral ratings. You however would rather just destroy this guys reputation on a hunch instead of just making a note on his profile. Anyone who is too lazy to read his trust ratings probably will lose all their money anyway.

It didn't take you very long to make this about me. BTW, I wasn't going around playing scambuster, I left a negative rating for some one actively harassing me in my marketplace threads, so try again OCD king.

What are you talking about? Have you seen the lending section? Pretty much any newbie or low rank member that asks for loan without collateral is given neg trust by one or various members, this is no different so i don't see why are you so concerned about this specific case when there are hundreds out there.

He did not destroy anyone reputation because the user didn't have any in the first place and im pretty sure if he stops doing what he did and talks to hilarious maybe in the future he will get his trust removed just like vod did.
legendary
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July 12, 2015, 06:15:29 AM
#7
The trust is still valid regardless of whether the account was purchased or not and which I stated it was possibly bought.

Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Was wondering how long it'd take you to chime in. Next time you do a deal on here use this guy as an escrow. Also let's not forget you were removed for your own trust abuse vigilantism.

There are lots of people I don't trust that I don't give negative ratings to, and if I did and I wasn't 100% positive, I would use neutral ratings. You however would rather just destroy this guys reputation on a hunch instead of just making a note on his profile. Anyone who is too lazy to read his trust ratings probably will lose all their money anyway.

It didn't take you very long to make this about me. BTW, I wasn't going around playing scambuster, I left a negative rating for some one actively harassing me in my marketplace threads, so try again OCD king.
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July 12, 2015, 05:46:46 AM
#6
The best thing that i liked is that hilariousandco never jerks off Trust easily , if he does there is cause , i havent analysed your post but as jotted down by hilariousandco in your trust  :
Quote from Trust:
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this account is possibly bought as it made no posts since Dec 2014 then suddenly spammed around 70 on the 10th of June and is now offering to escrow.
Is one of the serious consederation of scamming.
Recently i have seen a ponzi site running a signature campaign and giving postion manager to BTCLOGGER and escrow to a common full member and the full member ran away with the bitcoins.

to avoid such incident in future Hilario added a note in your trust , all i can say you to improve your repo here and again ask him nicely , he would do it .



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July 12, 2015, 05:34:12 AM
#5
The trust is still valid regardless of whether the account was purchased or not and which I stated it was possibly bought.

Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.

Was wondering how long it'd take you to chime in. Next time you do a deal on here use this guy as an escrow. Also let's not forget you were removed for your own trust abuse vigilantism.
legendary
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July 12, 2015, 05:00:10 AM
#4
Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.
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July 12, 2015, 01:10:27 AM
#3
The fact that your account is really irrelevant to the nature of his trust. The fact of the matter is that you have zero trade history where you were trusted with the month of your trading partner and have zero trading history where any money was actually exchanged. Yet you are still offering a service that would require others to trust you with their money.

Why would it be a good idea for someone to trust someone with their money when you have no prior trading history? Don't you think it would be better if someone were to "roll the dice" with their trading partner and hope they are acting honestly? Don't you think it would be reckless for someone to trust a person with no history of acting honestly with other people's money with their own money?

The question of if your account was sold or not is only distracting from the question of if you should be trusted with other people's money, and if people should trade with caution when considering to deal with you. I would personally think that you should not be trusted with other people's money and that people should proceed with caution when considering to deal with you. The negative rating hat hilariousandco gave you (and the one that I am about to give you) is a warning to others who are considering to trade and/or trust you.

I am somewhat surprised to see a thread about a rating that hilariousandco gave as he is normally very conservative in giving out negative trust. This does not mean that I think he should remove the rating, it is just that it is nice to see a trust related thread in meta that is not about quickseller.
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July 12, 2015, 12:19:44 AM
#2
Hello,

hilariousandco gave me wrong trust, he thinks my account is bought so i am going to prove it, its my own account.

Proof 1 -
I used to create logo's and I created logo for Danksta's bot at Primedice, My PRIMEDICE Username: Phix - You can confirm it.

Proof 2 -
I created one for redsn0w's service, you can confirm it from him.
He sent me payment on my address: https://blockchain.info/it/tx/fb795cf35b381753238357aceb397f43ec3b6d0680c66c550f61cc9531b3500c

My signed message of that wallet:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Phix and i am signing this message to prove my ownership on 12th July, 2015 at 10:31 A.M. (Indian Standard Time).
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
17Y562iYMACaw4vyRYEcNmYjgzD3kGZDi8
HMuSrfITMnFlUXSN5Cr+UDVQU5msuEi8IoNnSdRPdD8pKuo3GMx8SkNKDXL5TtZ23/M3yllZfu6S918cKaD8B1s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I never sold/bought this account and i am the real owner, Please remove the trust, I removed my escrow service thread.
Hey why are you removing your thrrad
"Trust can't be judged from the account status"
"Even a newbie could be trusted"
"Bla bla bla"
That's an offtopic post for this thread.
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July 11, 2015, 11:53:54 PM
#1
Hello,

hilariousandco gave me wrong trust, he thinks my account is bought so i am going to prove it, its my own account.

Proof 1 -
I used to create logo's and I created logo for Danksta's bot at Primedice, My PRIMEDICE Username: Phix - You can confirm it.

Proof 2 -
I created one for redsn0w's service, you can confirm it from him.
He sent me payment on my address: https://blockchain.info/it/tx/fb795cf35b381753238357aceb397f43ec3b6d0680c66c550f61cc9531b3500c

My signed message of that wallet:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Phix and i am signing this message to prove my ownership on 12th July, 2015 at 10:31 A.M. (Indian Standard Time).
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
17Y562iYMACaw4vyRYEcNmYjgzD3kGZDi8
HMuSrfITMnFlUXSN5Cr+UDVQU5msuEi8IoNnSdRPdD8pKuo3GMx8SkNKDXL5TtZ23/M3yllZfu6S918cKaD8B1s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I never sold/bought this account and i am the real owner, Please remove the trust, I removed my escrow service thread.
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