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legendary
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April 17, 2024, 05:42:15 AM
#28
Check out the video. Some miners still manage to bring 8 kilowatts of power to the balcony, but now they no longer use video cards, but ASICs.
A large box with a dragon, this is a noisebox for ASIC. The dimensions are huge, but it requires mining so that the ASIC does not overheat.
https://t.me/Info4atlanin/9793



legendary
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January 03, 2024, 08:44:34 AM
#27
The Federal Antimonopoly Service of Russia has calculated new electricity tariffs from July 24 = from 6.73 rubles to 7.33 rubles in Moscow. 1 dollar costs 91 rubles.
https://rg.ru/2023/11/21/svet-v-koridore.html
In Moscow, with such tariffs, it will soon be unprofitable to mine coins at home because tariffs for business are even cheaper due to the large volume of consumption. But in other regions of Russia, prices for individuals are several times cheaper.
legendary
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December 01, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
#26
~snip
Probably the fire of the mining equipment in the garage occurred due to an overload (this is mentioned in the article) in the electrical network. In general, this is not at all surprising, because garages are not designed for such power consumption (20-30 kW/hour). Cheap electricity will encourage the formation of such small mining farms in garages in the future, and this will lead to similar fires discussed in this topic. Greed and the desire to save on electricity led to the loss of 9 ASICs, which, by the way, costs not so little money. The conclusion is quite simple: it is necessary to prepare the appropriate technical base for mining (permissible load limit on electrical networks, fire protection and fire extinguishing system, etc.). Just curious, was the heat generated from 9 ASIC units enough to heat this garage? Smiley
In a garage in Russia, no one will be allowed to consume such a volume of electricity, so any garage mining will be subject to violations. Some miners manage to run a separate cable into their garage. The garage can be ventilated, so heat is not a problem, but noise is audible.
In such cases, all fire reports are the same. There will be no serious investigations unless people are harmed.
legendary
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Crypto Casino and Sportsbook
November 30, 2023, 10:46:36 AM
#25
~snip
Probably the fire of the mining equipment in the garage occurred due to an overload (this is mentioned in the article) in the electrical network. In general, this is not at all surprising, because garages are not designed for such power consumption (20-30 kW/hour). Cheap electricity will encourage the formation of such small mining farms in garages in the future, and this will lead to similar fires discussed in this topic. Greed and the desire to save on electricity led to the loss of 9 ASICs, which, by the way, costs not so little money. The conclusion is quite simple: it is necessary to prepare the appropriate technical base for mining (permissible load limit on electrical networks, fire protection and fire extinguishing system, etc.). Just curious, was the heat generated from 9 ASIC units enough to heat this garage? Smiley
legendary
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November 30, 2023, 09:45:02 AM
#24
Each company has a contract for a certain power consumption and their data cents are well designed and protected. Although I heard that in Europe data centers are burning. The last major fire was in a large data center in Strasbourg in 2021.

If you read too much Russian propaganda you will hear that
- all datacenters in Europe are faulty
- after five minutes there is no power in all all datacenters in Europe
- after five minutes all datacenters in Europe have burned down
- after five more minutes there are no datacenters in Europe as we are too poor to host them
- and the end of the show there is no Europe as the Russian army has conquered Portugal last month

When it comes to reality:
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/all/countries/1d/
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/all/asns/1d/

It's one thing to have cheap electricity in your garage it's a different thing when we talk datacenters.

What propaganda, man? We're talking about mining.
These are not Russian sources

OVHcloud rebuilds Strasbourg data center on site of 2021 fire
New facility keeps batteries and electrical plant separate from the data hall
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/ovhcloud-rebuilds-strasbourg-data-center-on-site-of-2021-fire/

Investigation report
located in Strasbourg (67) on March10, 2021.
On the fire in the OVH datastorage center
https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/06/10/ovh_report.pdf


legendary
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Blackjack.fun
November 30, 2023, 07:11:36 AM
#23
Each company has a contract for a certain power consumption and their data cents are well designed and protected. Although I heard that in Europe data centers are burning. The last major fire was in a large data center in Strasbourg in 2021.

If you read too much Russian propaganda you will hear that
- all datacenters in Europe are faulty
- after five minutes there is no power in all all datacenters in Europe
- after five minutes all datacenters in Europe have burned down
- after five more minutes there are no datacenters in Europe as we are too poor to host them
- and the end of the show there is no Europe as the Russian army has conquered Portugal last month

When it comes to reality:
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/all/countries/1d/
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/all/asns/1d/

It's one thing to have cheap electricity in your garage it's a different thing when we talk datacenters.
sr. member
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November 30, 2023, 04:45:32 AM
#22
It is curious that in many countries where electricity is cheap, mining is "illegal", while in countries where this activity could be done without problems, it is precisely the energy prices that make it impossible. In Italy, for example, we have an average price of around $0.22 per kW
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 05:44:04 AM
#21
Watch a short video about private data centers for mining in Russia. The quality of ASIC containers is described and shown in great detail.
The price is 5.4 Russian rubles or 0.061 dollars per kilowatt. This is an expensive price, but not in Siberia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zl6A3rH1v8&
legendary
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
November 27, 2023, 04:25:32 AM
#20
If you believe the news that Russia ranks 2nd in mining in the world, then mining companies do not have such problems.
I dont know the actual metrics to be able to confirm or deny this, but as per the data on this website, it says that USA is the first and China has been the second and before this the opposite was true, the Chinese have lost their dominance as the first in the recent years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1200477/bitcoin-mining-by-country/

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Each company has a contract for a certain power consumption and their data cents are well designed and protected. Although I heard that in Europe data centers are burning. The last major fire was in a large data center in Strasbourg in 2021.
Havent heard such news for long indeed, the European centers must have better setups and fire prevention.

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I wanted to tell you how private miners work in Russia, and what risks they take to engage in mining.
Thankfully no one got hurt in the above incident.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 08:24:38 AM
#19
And there isn't always proper energy flow. We face load shedding here and there, mostly in village areas. Maybe not the proper environment for mining I reckon.
Sadly the situation is not that good in Bangladesh added to it the government's involvement in outlawing crypto use. You end up risking you neck for nothing and as long as the economy remains like it is, the government stance will not change there. Situation is similar in most of the developing countries in SEAsia and some of the African countries where poverty is common and bitcoin has been the buzz word but only for scamming those people by MLM/HYIPs.

Ice cold temperatures in Russia sounds like a boon but getting electricity and laborers working is good condition there is tough. One thing cancels the other and the optimum situations to mine is still being searched for by many companies out there.
If you believe the news that Russia ranks 2nd in mining in the world, then mining companies do not have such problems.
Each company has a contract for a certain power consumption and their data cents are well designed and protected. Although I heard that in Europe data centers are burning. The last major fire was in a large data center in Strasbourg in 2021.
I wanted to tell you how private miners work in Russia, and what risks they take to engage in mining.
legendary
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Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
November 26, 2023, 05:14:01 AM
#18
And there isn't always proper energy flow. We face load shedding here and there, mostly in village areas. Maybe not the proper environment for mining I reckon.
Sadly the situation is not that good in Bangladesh added to it the government's involvement in outlawing crypto use. You end up risking you neck for nothing and as long as the economy remains like it is, the government stance will not change there. Situation is similar in most of the developing countries in SEAsia and some of the African countries where poverty is common and bitcoin has been the buzz word but only for scamming those people by MLM/HYIPs.

Ice cold temperatures in Russia sounds like a boon but getting electricity and laborers working is good condition there is tough. One thing cancels the other and the optimum situations to mine is still being searched for by many companies out there.
sr. member
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Merit: 366
November 25, 2023, 01:28:30 PM
#17
Unlimited or it has consumer bracket and different tariffs if exceeding those limits?
Makes little sense for a poor and net importer country to offer highly subsidized unlimited electricity.
The internet connection has improved a lot right now. You can also see the broadband connection in village areas. That's not the issue anymore. But yeah, we are limited by how much energy we can consume. Despite being cheap, it is a 3rd world country so here to local people, it is not as cheap as we think. And there isn't always proper energy flow. We face load shedding here and there, mostly in village areas. Maybe not the proper environment for mining I reckon.

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They guy doing the wiring was so drunk he understood overcook instead of overclock.  Wink
Lol. This cracked me up so hard. Thanks for making my day.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 24, 2023, 03:33:01 PM
#16
In Russia, the same short circuit protection equipment is used as in European countries, but you understand one thing: these are tools for household use. In mining, they have false positives, so only such standard switches are used in mining
https://www.lavprisel.dk/schneider-ic40n-automatsikring-1pn-13a-hvid-91213?

I see 13A, I scroll back to the camp fire, yeah, makes sense.  Wink
Oh and, 16/25 is more of the new norm.

I live in Bangladesh and the price of electricity is much cheaper than Russia but it is unfortunate that we can't mine here.
Bangladesh, March 2023: The price of electricity is 0.053 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.085 U.S. Dollar for businesses

Unlimited or it has consumer bracket and different tariffs if exceeding those limits?
Makes little sense for a poor and net importer country to offer highly subsidized unlimited electricity.

So mind if anyone tell me what happened here?

They guy doing the wiring was so drunk he understood overcook instead of overclock.  Wink




hmmm burnt rubber tasty.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
November 24, 2023, 03:29:04 PM
#15
In Russia, the same short circuit protection equipment is used as in European countries, but you understand one thing: these are tools for household use. In mining, they have false positives, so only such standard switches are used in mining
https://www.lavprisel.dk/schneider-ic40n-automatsikring-1pn-13a-hvid-91213?

I see 13A, I scroll back to the camp fire, yeah, makes sense.  Wink
Oh and, 16/25 is more of the new norm.

I live in Bangladesh and the price of electricity is much cheaper than Russia but it is unfortunate that we can't mine here.
Bangladesh, March 2023: The price of electricity is 0.053 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.085 U.S. Dollar for businesses

Unlimited or it has consumer bracket and different tariffs if exceeding those limits?
Makes little sense for a poor and net importer country to offer highly subsidized unlimited electricity.

So mind if anyone tell me what happened here?

The guy doing the wiring was so drunk he understood overcook instead of overclock.  Wink


legendary
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Merit: 1131
November 23, 2023, 09:45:47 AM
#14
According to your data, the price of electricity in Bangladesh is $0.053 and in the Irkutsk region of Russia $0.017.
Sorry my bad, I missed the (0) after the decimal point. I thought it was $0.17 so I assume that it was way cheaper for us at only $0.053. it was a bit of misunderstanding from my side. So apologies.

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The article says that one of the private garages in which there was illegal mining burned down. The causes of this fire are usually the negligence of the owners, resulting in a short circuit.
There are thousands of such garages in the Irkutsk region, although mining in garages is prohibited Smiley
I can't quite remember in which video but it was in a video of electroboom on YouTube. If you don't know who he is, you can give a search and you will find out. He makes great content and it's quite entertaining. But that's not what I'm discussing here. In one of his video he said that, the power that the government provides are not regulated and none of the outlet in Russia has any kind of fail safe in case of electric short circuit. I guess that could be the reason why this happened. Maybe that's why they can have cheap electricity in Irkutsk.
In Russia, the same short circuit protection equipment is used as in European countries, but you understand one thing: these are tools for household use. In mining, they have false positives, so only such standard switches are used in mining
https://www.lavprisel.dk/schneider-ic40n-automatsikring-1pn-13a-hvid-91213?
In garages, common wires are not designed for such loads. You cannot replace these wires, and therefore miners take risks. If your neighbors also want to mine, the wires will overheat and there will be a fire. Many garages have begun to install power consumption limiters, but the garage electrician has to turn it on many times after a shutdown, and he is not always on duty in garages.
sr. member
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November 22, 2023, 02:28:57 PM
#13
According to your data, the price of electricity in Bangladesh is $0.053 and in the Irkutsk region of Russia $0.017.
Sorry my bad, I missed the (0) after the decimal point. I thought it was $0.17 so I assume that it was way cheaper for us at only $0.053. it was a bit of misunderstanding from my side. So apologies.

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The article says that one of the private garages in which there was illegal mining burned down. The causes of this fire are usually the negligence of the owners, resulting in a short circuit.
There are thousands of such garages in the Irkutsk region, although mining in garages is prohibited Smiley
I can't quite remember in which video but it was in a video of electroboom on YouTube. If you don't know who he is, you can give a search and you will find out. He makes great content and it's quite entertaining. But that's not what I'm discussing here. In one of his video he said that, the power that the government provides are not regulated and none of the outlet in Russia has any kind of fail safe in case of electric short circuit. I guess that could be the reason why this happened. Maybe that's why they can have cheap electricity in Irkutsk.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 12:47:30 PM
#12
Damn that image hurt my eyes. But it hurts my soul even more. I have never been able to join any kind of mining because it is not allowed where I live. But what you can do with this mining rig makes me think. And now it is all burnt to crisp. So the provided link is in Russian language and I can't translate it. It just won't let me translate it. So mind if anyone tell me what happened here?

I live in Bangladesh and the price of electricity is much cheaper than Russia but it is unfortunate that we can't mine here.

Bangladesh, March 2023: The price of electricity is 0.053 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.085 U.S. Dollar for businesses which includes all components of the electricity bill such as the cost of power, distribution and taxes. For comparison, the average price of electricity in the world for that period is 0.158 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.164 U.S. Dollar for businesses. We calculate several data points at various levels of electricity consumption for both households and businesses but on the chart we show only two data points. For households, the displayed number is calculated at the average annual level of household electricity consumption. For businesses, the displayed data point uses 1,000,000 kWh annual consumption.

Source: Click here
According to your data, the price of electricity in Bangladesh is $0.053 and in the Irkutsk region of Russia $0.017.

The article says that one of the private garages in which there was illegal mining burned down. The causes of this fire are usually the negligence of the owners, resulting in a short circuit.
There are thousands of such garages in the Irkutsk region, although mining in garages is prohibited Smiley
sr. member
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November 21, 2023, 02:55:37 PM
#11
Damn that image hurt my eyes. But it hurts my soul even more. I have never been able to join any kind of mining because it is not allowed where I live. But what you can do with this mining rig makes me think. And now it is all burnt to crisp. So the provided link is in Russian language and I can't translate it. It just won't let me translate it. So mind if anyone tell me what happened here?

I live in Bangladesh and the price of electricity is much cheaper than Russia but it is unfortunate that we can't mine here.

Bangladesh, March 2023: The price of electricity is 0.053 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.085 U.S. Dollar for businesses which includes all components of the electricity bill such as the cost of power, distribution and taxes. For comparison, the average price of electricity in the world for that period is 0.158 U.S. Dollar per kWh for households and 0.164 U.S. Dollar for businesses. We calculate several data points at various levels of electricity consumption for both households and businesses but on the chart we show only two data points. For households, the displayed number is calculated at the average annual level of household electricity consumption. For businesses, the displayed data point uses 1,000,000 kWh annual consumption.

Source: Click here
full member
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November 16, 2023, 03:08:34 PM
#10
...to showcase how stupid the thief was....

Stupid? Definitely! But also a bit unlucky.

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According to Idemudia, the vandal was cutting the transformer cable and, suddenly, electricity supply was restored to the area.

He probably did not expect the power company to deliver such a shocking performance.  Wink

legendary
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November 16, 2023, 11:29:52 AM
#9
Wow, that's quite a situation! Those super cheap electricity prices gotta be bringing in some monster crypto mining operations.  Makes me wonder:

How often do people around there end up setting up mining rigs in their garages and stuff because of the low prices? Is it like a common thing for folks to do since electricity doesn't cost much? Do they have any rules or safety measures for people doing mining in residential spots?  

I'm real curious if its widespread or if it's just a few folks trying to cash in.   But hey, cheap powers a nice perk if you can make some crypto money off it!
If you had electricity at $0.017 per kilowatt or slightly less, would you not be mining?
In Irkutsk in recent years, only lazy people have not invested in mining. In fact, there are a lot of such cases, and that’s why energy workers have started hunting for miners.
I'll tell you that electricity in the village is even 20-30% cheaper  Smiley
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