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Quote from: PenguinFire on June 19, 2015, 12:57:06 AM

Hitler was right about many things but offered nothing but very evil solutions.

Hitler hardly got anything right. He believed that the Slavs were subhuman, and killed millions of Poles, Russians, Byelorussians, and Ukrainians as a result of that. He believed that the Germans were some "super-race" and tried to populate the entire earth with ethnic Germans. And at the same time, his allies were ethnic groups such as Arabs, Chechens, and Tatars, who have made almost zero contribution to the human civilization.

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Hitler was right about many things but offered nothing but very evil solutions. Time was not something he had. I don't think he wanted to even think of a soultion that wouldn't occur during his lifetime so he couldn't take credit for it.

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some say Hitler was a double Agent. That’s why his character is confusing. Some say he was a villain.

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Hitler was right about a couple things and very wrong about some. Nevertheless, Its always refreshing to hear theories come true!

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You don´t understand how humans can kill other humans? Look around you at people that vote homicidal maniacs into political office - on and on. Think they have much of a clue either?

This whole psychopathic shitpile will end up making even Hitler look not that terribly bad after all. And clearly they´re well on the way.

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Hitler was never right.
You cant give the whole world to a painter!
This earth is for humans to live.Let the power be damned.

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I did Nazi see this coming

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So many conspiracy theories, so many wicked truths and so many bold lies within this thread. But in the end we are not reach any consensus. That is the problem with people. They always fight.
While instead, together we could have a perfect world on our palm right now.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 22, 2015, 09:13:12 PM

Quote from: umair01 on April 21, 2015, 12:39:16 PM

Hitler will be never be considered right for all the wrong things that he has done to the humanity, killing of millions of people will never be considered right, as per the facts that i have heard he was a dictator who passed laws and ordered killings of millions of people who could have lived otherwise.

We should also remember that a vast majority of his killings were fueled by blatant racism against certain ethnic groups, such as the Slavs, Roma, and the Jews. Other monsters such as Mao and Stalin also killed millions of people. But they never targeted anyone based on their ethnicity. Here, Hitler wanted to exterminate whole ethnic groups and repopulate the areas previously inhabited them with "Aryans".

Well, the line is more blurred here. Politics often decided, rather than declared ideals Wink

Stalin had hundreds of thousands Germans and Tatars targeted after outbreak of the war, as his secret police saw them as security risk - at the same time Americans were putting ethnic Japanese living in States into concentration camps - for the exactly same reason.

After the war, with the emergence of american backed Israel, again, for security reasons, high profile soviet Jews (by then Politbyro lost virtually all its power and its judeo-clique was broken down by Stalin puppets) were sent enmasse into gulags.

On the other hand, largest synagogue in Berlin kept working and giving service for entire duration of the war. While "aryan" Serbs were choosen for extermination based on pleas of ethnic Croats and the fact of their pro-russian bias. Semitic Arabs were also seen as valuable allies of Reich for their rampant antisemitism and resources Wink

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2015, 11:22:28 AM

Quote from: Balthazar on June 12, 2015, 10:40:18 AM

It's not even close to Hitler's concentration camps.

The number given (1,606,748) represents only a small fraction of the people killed by Stalin. A lot of people lost their lives in the purges and famines. According to the British historian Norman Davies, some 50 million people lost their lives during 1924-53 (excluding deaths due to warfare). Some 5 million lost their lives during the famine of 1930–1933 alone, which was a result of Stalin's incompetence.

I dont really have motivation to defend either Stalin or Hitler as decent people, but Norman Davies rampant idiocy makes my brain bleed. Stalin certainly didnt kill THIRD of USSR population, sir.

Also comparing gulags and german Lagers, while popular is complete nonsense. Gulags were basically prison camps with eastern penchant for brutality, their point was to break and resocialize people aswell (sometimes accused on political grounds only) as concetrate cheap labor, NOT to exterminate them.

Famine you are talking about did indeed happen across USSR, but its seeds were already planted well before Stalin ascension to power. Supreme soviet council was then dominated by ethnic Jews and those feared violent counter-revolution by middle class "Kulaks" (basically self-employed artisans and farmers), mostly ethnic Russians, Ukrainians and Germans. Famine was created artifically to destroy this class of people across the entire country. Stalin, while himself not too concerned about human lives, was none the less down to earth person, who understood that internally strong country means also stronger Stalin. For all matter and purposes, he was absolute monarch by late thirties, not madman hellbent on selfdestruction.

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So, are you ready to kill yourself to raise economical sector of your country ? It could be done in adifferent manner also . He killed many people means he killed many resources . Todays era looks at everything with an economical eye making even a human a usable resource .

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Quote from: BADecker on April 19, 2015, 02:36:53 PM

Hitler was right.

Hitler was wrong.

Hitler was wrong.

Hitler was wrong.

Hitler was wrong and then some, even though he was right.

The catchy title brings people to see the one basic thing that Hitler was right about. Oh sure, he may have been right in some of his idealism as a youth and young man. But he was wrong in a lot of his ideology, a lot of his plans, and the way that he went about doing what he did.

However, the thing that he did with the Jewish bankers might have been the only way that it could have been done. We received the blessing of that part of what Hitler did, and we don't even know it for the most part.

We don't have Hitler to take down the Jewish bankers today. And we don't have to. Smart as they are, it is their own greed that is overcoming their treachery. And, we have...

Bitcoin.

Beautifully described. The Jewish bankers did Nazi this coming... Haha.

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 13, 2015, 10:01:00 AM

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 02:07:18 PM

In addition to all the soldiers from the Allied countries that lost lives and all the lost treasure to fight Hitler, Hitler screwed over his own people as millions of them died creating lost generations and millions of women were raped when the war was concluded. There is nothing "right" about any of that.

You are absolutely right. In more ways, than you imagine Wink

Indeed public might not consider Hitler evil for what he did, but for what he couldnt do - that is win the war.

You see, other blood-stained chiefstains of bygone times, like Shaka of Zulus or Genghis of Mongols are venerated today as founders of nations, even cultures. Yet, only practical difference between them and A.H. is - they won. They danced on graves of all their enemies in the end.

Sometimes I wonder if the Germans really lost the war.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on April 19, 2015, 02:07:18 PM

In addition to all the soldiers from the Allied countries that lost lives and all the lost treasure to fight Hitler, Hitler screwed over his own people as millions of them died creating lost generations and millions of women were raped when the war was concluded. There is nothing "right" about any of that.

You are absolutely right. In more ways, than you imagine Wink

Indeed public might not consider Hitler evil for what he did, but for what he couldnt do - that is win the war.

You see, other blood-stained chiefstains of bygone times, like Shaka of Zulus or Genghis of Mongols are venerated today as founders of nations, even cultures. Yet, only practical difference between them and A.H. is - they won. They danced on graves of all their enemies in the end.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2015, 11:22:28 AM

The number given (1,606,748) represents only a small fraction of the people killed by Stalin. A lot of people lost their lives in the purges and famines.

USSR population

January 1926 :   148,656,000
January 1937:   162,500,000
January 1939:   168,524,000
June 1941:    196,716,000
January 1946:   170,548,000
January 1951:   182,321,000

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2015, 11:22:28 AM

According to the British historian Norman Davies, some 50 million people lost their lives during 1924-53 (excluding deaths due to warfare). Some 5 million lost their lives during the famine of 1930–1933 alone, which was a result of Stalin's incompetence.

Losing the million of lives would create demographic hole which is impossible to hide because such hole will persist for a dozen of generations. There are irrefutable traces of 1941-1945 deaths in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. But there are no demographic holes matching to the interval of 1930-1934, for example. I don't care what Norman Davies have said because it's simply impossible. It's not a history, but simple arithmetics.

P.S. Demographic hole is specified as a significant drop of newborns with a period of 20-22 years. It's like an echo of the past.

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Quote from: Balthazar on June 12, 2015, 10:40:18 AM

It's not even close to Hitler's concentration camps.

The number given (1,606,748) represents only a small fraction of the people killed by Stalin. A lot of people lost their lives in the purges and famines. According to the British historian Norman Davies, some 50 million people lost their lives during 1924-53 (excluding deaths due to warfare). Some 5 million lost their lives during the famine of 1930–1933 alone, which was a result of Stalin's incompetence.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 23, 2015, 09:53:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 23, 2015, 03:16:14 PM

We don't have clear enough records to see how badly Stalin tortured those he exterminated.

Stalin killed millions by sending them to the gulags, where they were forced in to slave labor. Only the toughest survived, the rest died of exhaustion and starvation. And almost all of them were adults, mostly male. But still, those killings were not as bad as the ones committed by the Nazis, who used barbaric torture practices to dehumanize the people they wanted to exterminate.

I recommend to read this article.

Main statistics

Year	In labor camps	Convicted for political crimes	% of political prisoners	In correctional labor colonies	Total
1934	510307	135190	26,5	-	510307
1935	725483	118256	16,3	240259	965742
1936	839406	105849	12,6	457088	1296494
1937	820881	104826	12,8	375488	1196369
1938	996367	185324	18,6	885203	1881570
1939	1317195	454432	34,5	355243	1672438
1940	1344408	444999	33,1	315584	1659992
1941	1500524	420293	28.7	429205	1929729
1942	1415596	407988	29,6	361447	1777043
1943	983974	345397	35,6	500208	1484182
1944	663594	268861	40,7	516225	1179819
1945	715505	289351	41,2	745171	1460677
1946	746871	333883	59,2	956224	1703095
1947	808839	427653	54,3	912704	1721543
1948	1108057	416156	38,0	1091478	2199535
1949	1216361	420696	34,9	1140324	2356685
1950	1416300	578912	22,7	1145051	2561351
1951	1533767	475976	31,0	994379	2528146
1952	1711202	480766	28,1	793312	2504514
1953	1727970	465256	26,9	740554	2468524

Deathrates

Year	Deaths	%
1930	7980	4,2
1931	7283	2,9
1932	13197	4,8
1933	67297	15,3
1934	25 187	4,28
1935	31636	2,75
1936	24993	2,11
1937	31056	2,42
1938	108654	5,35
1939	44750	3,1
1940	41275	2,72
1941	115484	6,1
1942	352560	24,9
1943	267826	22,4
1944	114481	9,2
1945	81917	5,95
1946	30715	2,2
1947	66830	3,59
1948	50659	2,28
1949	29350	1,21
1950	24511	0,95
1951	22466	0,92
1952	20643	0,84
1953	9628	0,67
1954	8358	0,69
1955	4842	0,53
1956	3164	0,4
Total	1606748

It's not even close to Hitler's concentration camps.

P.S. By the way, current amount of prisoners the US is greater than amount of those who were in the Gulag. They're also used for labor... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2015, 07:16:35 AM

Are you really comparing Hitler to Che Guevara? Pathetic. You can compare him to people such as Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao or Osama, but still Hitler will rank as the most evil person among the bunch. Nelson Mandela once referred to Che Guevara as an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom. And you are demonizing such a person?

Well comparing him with Hitler is a stupid thing indeed, but don't be mistaken, Che Guevara wasn't a saint at all. Jet another mass murderer but on a smaller scale. (La Cabana, "land reforms", Cuban purges?)

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Quote from: muhrohmat on June 12, 2015, 05:13:58 AM

for good sakes hitler was as terror and nervouse as for instances osama ou che guevara or staline or maui

Are you really comparing Hitler to Che Guevara? Pathetic. You can compare him to people such as Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao or Osama, but still Hitler will rank as the most evil person among the bunch. Nelson Mandela once referred to Che Guevara as an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom. And you are demonizing such a person?

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