Hitler's world may not be so far away

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Quote from: BADecker on September 16, 2015, 02:56:23 PM

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History is an endless repetition of people in groups reacting to other people in groups. Again and again a 'superior few group' will seem to guide the way until nature creates a group to react to them.

Nothing will change until there is a new territory to 'conquer' that is not populated.

The danger is from small "superior" cliques that try to manage the masses. It is always the same. "The people don't have xyz understanding that we have, so we have to guide them". All of the major political powers in the world today are run by people with this mentality. An endless circle.

Yep!

Best thing to do is find a private island off the beaten path, or maybe go to the Andes or Urals, or even parts of Africa, live off the land, have a solar-powered Internet connection through Hughes satellite, and be careful how you talk to people over the Net. And of course, be ready to flee on a moments notice, with several backup plans.

Best idea ever, and even though this is a joke, on another level it might not be an improbable future...

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 23, 2016, 01:33:04 AM

Things will get a little messy here. Various sources will give differing numbers, having varying levels of accuracy. The pro-Jewish sources, which would like to inflate the numbers would count even people with partial Jewish origin as Jews. On the other hand, some of the Jews might have identified themselves as either Hungarian or German in the census.

Yes, you are right e.g. Wikipedia is pretty funny on the numbers. You can find different numbers on almost every pages.
People with partial jewish origin is included in this number according to the Second Jewish Law (1939), so their self identification is irrelevant. (BTW the Third Jewish Law in 1941 classified further 20-25 people as jew, what isn't included in this number.)

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Quote from: Snail2 on January 22, 2016, 06:34:10 PM

Just to make a few things a bit more factual.

725,000 was the number of all jews in Hungary (reannexed territories included) and that was 4,9% of the population according to the official holocaust literature and 600,000 were deported (90% died). (Source: wikipedia)
According to the Hungarian Central Statistical Office (1941 census) that number is actually 431,711 and approximately 200,000 were deported but no exact data is available as things got a bit messy and not very well documented when the soviet army reached Hungary in 1944 and the germans occupied the rest of the country. Since the end of the war no data is available but the state paid/paying compensations for about 33,000 holocaust survivors, what makes the number of victims something like 167,000.
Perhaps you might want to review your data sources.

Things will get a little messy here. Various sources will give differing numbers, having varying levels of accuracy. The pro-Jewish sources, which would like to inflate the numbers would count even people with partial Jewish origin as Jews. On the other hand, some of the Jews might have identified themselves as either Hungarian or German in the census.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 23, 2015, 12:13:28 PM

There were not many Jews in Germany at the time of the WW2. Germany was home to 566,000 Jews in the early 1930s (less than 1% of the total population). Compare this to 3,250,000 in Poland (11% of the population) and 725,000 in Hungary (10% of the population). Also, most of the German Jews emigrated to North America and the United Kingdom during the mid-1930s. Around 25% of the German Jews stayed behind in Germany at the time of the WW2, and were exterminated. On the other hand, 75% of the Hungarian Jews, and 90% of the Polish Jews were exterminated by the Nazis.

Just to make a few things a bit more factual.

725,000 was the number of all jews in Hungary (reannexed territories included) and that was 4,9% of the population according to the official holocaust literature and 600,000 were deported (90% died). (Source: wikipedia)
According to the Hungarian Central Statistical Office (1941 census) that number is actually 431,711 and approximately 200,000 were deported but no exact data is available as things got a bit messy and not very well documented when the soviet army reached Hungary in 1944 and the germans occupied the rest of the country. Since the end of the war no data is available but the state paid/paying compensations for about 33,000 holocaust survivors, what makes the number of victims something like 167,000.
Perhaps you might want to review your data sources.

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Researchers Are Pretty Sure They've Found A New Planet In Our Solar System

Quote from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-planet-discovered_us_569fbf96e4b0875553c28ac0?utm_hp_ref=science

.... the new planet is about 10 times the mass of Earth and has an atmosphere of hydrogen and helium. Science magazine reports that the mysterious "Planet X" moves in a distant orbit beyond Neptune....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poHQ2h00ZA

Read more at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-planet-discovered_us_569fbf96e4b0875553c28ac0?utm_hp_ref=science.

Could this new planet be Hitler's world? Huh

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Quote from: TheIrishman on September 16, 2015, 11:15:43 AM

Hitler's world may not be so far away

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away

<< Misunderstanding the Holocaust has made us too certain we are ethically superior to the Europeans of the 1940s. Faced with a new catastrophe – such as devastating climate change – could we become mass killers again? >>

nature will kick our ass deadly and it want happen too late...

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Well the thing with the aliens made me laugh. Thanks! You know what? I'll even look at it.

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On behalf of Britain I would sincerely like to apologise for the left wing social justice warrior bullshit being constantly written by the Guardian.

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Quote from: TheIrishman on September 16, 2015, 11:15:43 AM

Hitler's world may not be so far away

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away

<< Misunderstanding the Holocaust has made us too certain we are ethically superior to the Europeans of the 1940s. Faced with a new catastrophe – such as devastating climate change – could we become mass killers again? >>

How about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8KgfLKHaLQ&list=PLnkVxqeTdF5rBvY0wSUD6gbYjKtg5VWpJ

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Quote from: saddampbuh on September 16, 2015, 03:47:45 PM

hitler wouldn't be standing around doing nothing while millions of islamic invaders break into europe and demand free stuff from us

Nobody should stand and watch them pour in to get free money doing nothing... Liberalism and retarded SJWs fucked it up. I mean, I'd let those who are really arunning away from war, if you have ID and willing to work, then come in... but like this.... no.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 23, 2015, 05:13:39 PM

Lovely statistics. And don't get me wrong. I wasn't stating that they are false. However, like others, what's your source?

I understand that the source might not be linkable websites. Maybe it is your parents or grandparents. Maybe you happen to be old enough that you experienced it all yourself, and compiled it because you were an investigative journalist of the day. Just curious about your source(s). What are they? At least might you divulge the kind(s) of source(s)?

The figures which I have posted, are from the book The Columbia Guide to the Holocaust, authored by Donald L. Niewyk, and published by the Columbia University Press. You can quote from other sources (such as Atlas of the Holocaust by Martin Gilbert) as well, but since the Holocaust is well documented, the difference in the numbers will be less than 5%.

Bryan, correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the original source, and the authoritative source, the actual German records. They were if nothing else, meticulous record keepers...

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Quote from: TheIrishman on September 16, 2015, 11:15:43 AM

Hitler's world may not be so far away

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away

<< Misunderstanding the Holocaust has made us too certain we are ethically superior to the Europeans of the 1940s. Faced with a new catastrophe – such as devastating climate change – could we become mass killers again? >>

i really fed up with hitler's world tales.. hitler pushed to daisies and now he is in bloody hell.. why are this world still concerning hitler's stuff ..

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 23, 2015, 05:13:39 PM

Lovely statistics. And don't get me wrong. I wasn't stating that they are false. However, like others, what's your source?

I understand that the source might not be linkable websites. Maybe it is your parents or grandparents. Maybe you happen to be old enough that you experienced it all yourself, and compiled it because you were an investigative journalist of the day. Just curious about your source(s). What are they? At least might you divulge the kind(s) of source(s)?

The figures which I have posted, are from the book The Columbia Guide to the Holocaust, authored by Donald L. Niewyk, and published by the Columbia University Press. You can quote from other sources (such as Atlas of the Holocaust by Martin Gilbert) as well, but since the Holocaust is well documented, the difference in the numbers will be less than 5%.

Thank you. I appreciate this, I really do. I am interested these days in history.

I agree with you, and always have, on the part where the Jewish holocaust is not the large one. The Jews are very shrewd when they want to be. In order to gain fame and fortune, they have made a big stink about the deaths of their numbers. When I say "fame and fortune," I mostly mean fortune.

The part of me that has some Jewish ancestry, has been able to tap into some of the Jewish shrewdness. Unfortunately for some of the Jews, their shrewdness has outsmarted even themselves. they will have to answer to God for some of the ways they put their shrewdness into effect.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 23, 2015, 05:13:39 PM

Lovely statistics. And don't get me wrong. I wasn't stating that they are false. However, like others, what's your source?

I understand that the source might not be linkable websites. Maybe it is your parents or grandparents. Maybe you happen to be old enough that you experienced it all yourself, and compiled it because you were an investigative journalist of the day. Just curious about your source(s). What are they? At least might you divulge the kind(s) of source(s)?

The figures which I have posted, are from the book The Columbia Guide to the Holocaust, authored by Donald L. Niewyk, and published by the Columbia University Press. You can quote from other sources (such as Atlas of the Holocaust by Martin Gilbert) as well, but since the Holocaust is well documented, the difference in the numbers will be less than 5%.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 23, 2015, 12:13:28 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 12:42:23 PM

There were many Jews in Germany at the times of WWII. Many of them became or had become Germans. Were they still Jews? Are they or there posterity still Jews today? They might follow Jewish customs, but who has the right to decide if they maintain enough Jewish status to still be Jews? Maybe they are not considered Jews by the Jewish community any longer.

There were not many Jews in Germany at the time of the WW2. Germany was home to 566,000 Jews in the early 1930s (less than 1% of the total population). Compare this to 3,250,000 in Poland (11% of the population) and 725,000 in Hungary (10% of the population). Also, most of the German Jews emigrated to North America and the United Kingdom during the mid-1930s. Around 25% of the German Jews stayed behind in Germany at the time of the WW2, and were exterminated. On the other hand, 75% of the Hungarian Jews, and 90% of the Polish Jews were exterminated by the Nazis.

Lovely statistics. And don't get me wrong. I wasn't stating that they are false. However, like others, what's your source?

I understand that the source might not be linkable websites. Maybe it is your parents or grandparents. Maybe you happen to be old enough that you experienced it all yourself, and compiled it because you were an investigative journalist of the day. Just curious about your source(s). What are they? At least might you divulge the kind(s) of source(s)?

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 12:42:23 PM

There were many Jews in Germany at the times of WWII. Many of them became or had become Germans. Were they still Jews? Are they or there posterity still Jews today? They might follow Jewish customs, but who has the right to decide if they maintain enough Jewish status to still be Jews? Maybe they are not considered Jews by the Jewish community any longer.

There were not many Jews in Germany at the time of the WW2. Germany was home to 566,000 Jews in the early 1930s (less than 1% of the total population). Compare this to 3,250,000 in Poland (11% of the population) and 725,000 in Hungary (10% of the population). Also, most of the German Jews emigrated to North America and the United Kingdom during the mid-1930s. Around 25% of the German Jews stayed behind in Germany at the time of the WW2, and were exterminated. On the other hand, 75% of the Hungarian Jews, and 90% of the Polish Jews were exterminated by the Nazis.

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Quote from: Losvienleg on September 22, 2015, 10:56:42 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 06:25:32 AM

Okay. We understand. You simply would rather talk religion than politics.

When you talk about Jews and their extermination, you have to make a mix of religion and politics because "the Jews" means two things : the mens you believe in Judaism and a semitic people, the Hebrews. Most of the time (9/10 times, maybe more) a Jew is both of them. And this is a mix of religion (Christianism hate against Judaism) and politics (anti-semitism against the Hebrews (which is better (Hebrew term instead of Jews) when you talk about the race, the genetics, call it like you want)).

Yes, this is difficult.

If a German goes to Great Britain, and even moves there to live, he is not a British subject until he goes through whatever process the British have for naturalization. Does he lose his German status then?

If it is a Jew, is the Jewish status lost?

There were many Jews in Germany at the times of WWII. Many of them became or had become Germans. Were they still Jews? Are they or there posterity still Jews today? They might follow Jewish customs, but who has the right to decide if they maintain enough Jewish status to still be Jews? Maybe they are not considered Jews by the Jewish community any longer.

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The title of this article is one of the biggest exaggerations I've seen these days. Bigger than 21 in when they were talking about putting a bitcoin mining chip on every device and now being praised for releasing a machine based on open source technology.

You simply can't speak about anything related to the holocaust and compare it to modern day actions. The latest decades have been proven the most peaceful times, but killing en masse is about to be repeated because... climate change? Rrrright.

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Gloire à la Victoire !

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 06:25:32 AM

Okay. We understand. You simply would rather talk religion than politics.

When you talk about Jews and their extermination, you have to make a mix of religion and politics because "the Jews" means two things : the mens you believe in Judaism and a semitic people, the Hebrews. Most of the time (9/10 times, maybe more) a Jew is both of them. And this is a mix of religion (Christianism hate against Judaism) and politics (anti-semitism against the Hebrews (which is better (Hebrew term instead of Jews) when you talk about the race, the genetics, call it like you want)).

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Okay. We understand. You simply would rather talk religion than politics.

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