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That is a jumbled analysis which doesn't explain well the situation.

I already explained it more clearly:

Remember that Craig Wright had obtained funding for and was running a the largest Supercomputer in Australia. So what Craig has ostensibly done is he is used supercomputer resources to find the inverse of a hash function and then used one of Satoshi old transactions to pretend he has the private key:

The implication is that either Craig Wright has stumbled upon an infinitesimally rare occurrence of an SHA256 collision, or that he had used the signature from block 258 to reverse engineer a hash (the first shown in his blog demonstration) and hoped that nobody would notice. ycombinator user JoukeH noticed.

And with his access to a supercomputer, it is plausible he was able to reverse the hash in order to find a text that matched the signature that was already on the blockchain. Without that explanation, then he must have the private key! You seem to not understand the technology.  Roll Eyes

Let me unpack that more for n00bs. The point is that every Bitcoin signature signs the hash (of a hash) of the transaction. And so if someone can create two transactions that have the same hash, then one can use the same signature for both, i.e. no need to have the private key to generate a new signature.

What Craig did was reuse an existing signature from the block chain which is attributed to Satoshi, and supplied it as the signature for a new transactions. Specifically the new transaction is some text written by Sartre but the key point is that normally it should impossible to find a new set of data which can generate the same hash, because of the preimage resistance security property of the SHA256 cryptographic hash function.

Re-read my post, you didn't seem to understand it. Craig has not said he is Satoshi. Find a quote where he said that. You won't. He has always said it was his colleague.

Listen to the first few minutes of the BBC interview

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36191165

"You're going to show me that Satoshi is you?"

Craig - "yes"

Remember Craig is a lawyer. Remember how Bill Clinton explained in court what the meaning of 'is' is.

Craig has consistently claimed he was backing "the persona behind Satoshi" and was part of a group involved with Satoshi, so the above statement is consistent with that, without him actually being the man who developed the code of Bitcoin with his own fingers. The interviewer did not ask Craig "are you going to prove you are the man who wrote the code of Bitcoin?" which obviously can't be proved nor disproved by any signature since Satoshi did not sign the code of Bitcoin.



Is Satoshi after all of Blockstream?

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I have had no communication with Mr Wright at all, let alone signed anything. I understand that there is some information sheet Wright is giving reporters that specifically attacks me, however!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hs2ca/can_all_core_developers_confirm_they_havent/



Hey dufus - why don't you look at the BBC article itself: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

It says: "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto."

Where did they get the information from - they got it from Craig Wright - still going to say he hasn't identified himself as being Satoshi?

You are quoting what a reporter has said, not what Craig has said. I said find a quote where Craig has claimed his is the man who wrote the code for Bitcoin. You will never find that.

Butthurt idiot. Bye.

I see you locked your thread again. You are an emotional basketcase.

I am replying to every topic where my post is relevant. I am not the one who created so many duplicate topics.

It isn't relevant and it is just spamming (you could start your own topic of course).

And if he was saying that he just knew Satoshi and is not Satoshi then why does Gavin come out this "meeting" saying that he is Satoshi (surely he would  have told Gavin it was his friend and not him).

You are just butthurt.

It is very relevant.

Craig has played Gavin. He knows Gavin needs support for his preferences for the block scaling debate.

Butthurt by what exactly?

(perhaps due to seeing your same post spammed in every topic?)

Don't pretend you've forgotten when you closed the technical thread where we were debating and told me in PM that you never wanted to talk to me again.

I don't have time for your melodrama. Bye.



It's increasingly obvious that despite not being able to present actual cryptographic proof Wright is putting a lot of effort into obfuscation and trying to sway the public opinion, whether it's for his business interests or something else.

You do not seem to understand the math. Either Craig broke SHA256 or he has Satoshi's private key.

Also by getting core Bitcoin devs and their tribe to claim that the proof Craig provided is not a proof, he has revealed them as being disingenuous. Very clever political game theory he has concocted.

Craig has astutely accomplished his goal, as only 42% of Bitcoiners conclude he can't be Satoshi. And when and if Craig signs coins from an early block of Bitcoin, the level of confusion will increase. Craig is playing a political game theory.

I think bringing in a dead person into this is just a scapegoat by Craig Wright to confuse spectators. If this is true, why would he pretend being Satoshi by signing a fake message? Until Craig comes up with this extraordinary proof he says, I refuse to believe anything that came from him.

Refusing to believe is not the same as proving he is not. Craig is winning the political game theory. He is a clever lawyer mofo.


One theory that is being floated on Reddit runs like this:

Kleiman is Satoshi, and had the keys to the ~1 million bitcoins. He dies, and his USB stick/computer/whatever went to a relative, who doesn't realize what he is holding. Wright knew Kleiman and knew he was Satoshi. So he invents this crazy story about being Satoshi, but that he can't spend the coins because they are all in a trust that was held by Kleiman.

So now Wright comes public claiming to be Satoshi - and sets himself up to launch a lawsuit against Kleiman's relative to get "his" bitcoins back. If Wright pulls this off, he gains the fabled treasure of 1 million bitcoins off Kleiman's estate.

Thoughts pro and con?



I just came up with another theory though...we might be missing the forest for the trees. Much of what CW has said has proven sketchy, or even downright lies (claiming multiple fake phd's for instance). We do know one thing that's incontrovertible: CW was very interested in high performance computing / supercomputing. Think about that for a minute.

Now what if Kleiman, being the typical computer geek, enjoyed the intellectual challenge of creating the code but had little interest in testing...and asked his friend CW to help test Bitcoin by mining. It's very possible that CW could own Block 1, and even if not, it's still possible that a significant part of Satoshi's stash...actually doesn't belong to Satoshi. What if most/all the coins we thought were Satoshi's were actually CW's?

It's also possible that Kleiman wrote the first version of the Bitcoin code, and that CW took over testing, bug fixing, and future development. Kleiman could have written the code, while CW could have been the "Satoshi" that communicated extensively with Gavin and others...

I think that CSW stumbled upon Bitcoin circa 2013 (late 2012 at the earliest) and started concocting a narrative to fit his long con. Stumbling upon the death of David Kleiman, a person who CSW co-wrote with, Craig saw that the pieces of Dave's life fit nicely in what's known about Satoshi. It was just a matter of creating docs to make it look like he and Dave were partners of sorts which I've demonstrated he's done.
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Unfortunately @TBTB is not very good at doing (even the most basic) research and doesn't know how to ever admit he is wrong (he will now say that the BBC and everyone else is wrong rather than admit his own mistake).


I d understand TPTB saying CW never posted this until he lately tried to claim it in the BBC interview.

This oral claim seems to be more panic driven than wanted and given that Dave and CW might have had some close relation and Dave adressed some last wish to CW to never uncover the truth about Dave might be Satoshi, CW now desperately tries to proof its rather him (CW) before others (the hidden drivers) might find out / proof it was Dave....

so guess CW is in the shit doesnt matter how you see it
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Unfortunately @TBTB is not very good at doing (even the most basic) research and doesn't know how to ever admit he is wrong (he will now say that the BBC and everyone else is wrong rather than admit his own mistake).
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No - what Craig did was grab an existing signature used by Satoshi and pretend he had created it to sign a document by Sartre (which is fraud and even Gavin is not sure what on earth to make of that).

And he *is* claiming to be Satoshi (which is why he asked Gavin to come and *verify* his claim).

Also - why are you posting the exact same thing in multiple topics?

Re-read my post, you didn't seem to understand it. Craig has not said he is Satoshi. Find a quote where he said that. You won't. He has always said it was his colleague.

And with his access to a supercomputer, it is plausible he was able to reverse the hash in order to find a text that matched the signature that was already on the blockchain. Without that explanation, then he must have the private key! You seem to not understand the technology.  Roll Eyes

I am replying to every topic where my post is relevant. I am not the one who created so many duplicate topics.

Here is is another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY

BBC: "So you are going to show me that Satoshi Nakamoto is you?"
Craig Wright: "Yes."
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How many more threads are people going to open on this subject?


this is the mother of all threads  Tongue



Tomorrow, I'm goin' to start a thread entitled: The Mother of all Threads

nite
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The tweets of this account might be worth reading. Cheesy
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No - what Craig did was grab an existing signature used by Satoshi and pretend he had created it to sign a document by Sartre (which is fraud and even Gavin is not sure what on earth to make of that).

And he *is* claiming to be Satoshi (which is why he asked Gavin to come and *verify* his claim).

Also - why are you posting the exact same thing in multiple topics?

Re-read my post, you didn't seem to understand it. Craig has not said he is Satoshi. Find a quote where he said that. You won't. He has always said it was his colleague.

And with his access to a supercomputer, it is plausible he was able to reverse the hash in order to find a text that matched the signature that was already on the blockchain. Without that explanation, then he must have the private key! You seem to not understand the technology.  Roll Eyes

I am replying to every topic where my post is relevant. I am not the one who created so many duplicate topics.
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Stop spamming the same post in every single thread related to CW.

You need to remember that Craig Wright has never claimed he is Satoshi Nakamoto.
He did claim this, and he even keeps insisting that he is Satoshi. Stop defending him.

This is the problem, because every bullshit creates a divide & conquer effect.
That's what the idea behind it is; I don't think it is a coincidence that this happens at the time of Consensus 2016 and the CME group - related news about Bitcoin (which was basically, completely, suppressed).
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Craig "Satoshi" Wright said he was going to move them

hahah this guy is so funny lol. He doesn't need to move any coin to prove it, just sign the fcking message if he has the prive keys

Something is weird. He provided a message and a signature, but there's nothing in the message to indicate that he signed it himself, or when it was signed. It could have been signed months or years ago and there's no way to prove otherwise.

To understand what is really going on, you need to read carefully what Craig Wright has always said and continues to reiterate:

In his initial blog post, Wright noted that “Satoshi is dead... but this is only the beginning.” He also said that he would follow up with a more detailed mathematical explanation for the revelation. Now, the world will likely have to wait for “the coming days”—however long that may be—for more clues.

If I sign Craig Wright, it is not the same as if I sign Craig Wright, Satoshi.

I think this is true, but in my heart I wish it wasn’t.

Since those early days, after distancing myself from the public persona that was Satoshi,

Satoshi is dead.

But this is only the beginning.

You need to remember that Craig Wright has never claimed he is Satoshi Nakamoto. Instead, he has claimed that his former colleague (who died) was Satoshi. He claims he was backing his colleague's the development of Bitcoin.

This Australian Says He and His Dead Friend Invented Bitcoin



David Kleiman, Craig Wright's friend more likely Satoshi Nakamoto

OK so this might get a little meandering but I keep finding tidbits of David Kleiman's life that makes him a far more likely candidate for Satoshi than Wright. So here are some in no specific order.

Remember that Craig Wright had obtained funding for and was running a the largest Supercomputer in Australia. So what Craig has ostensibly done is he is used supercomputer resources to find the inverse of a hash function and then used one of Satoshi old transactions to pretend he has the private key:

The implication is that either Craig Wright has stumbled upon an infinitesimally rare occurrence of an SHA256 collision, or that he had used the signature from block 258 to reverse engineer a hash (the first shown in his blog demonstration) and hoped that nobody would notice. ycombinator user JoukeH noticed.

Realize that he has probably promised to endorse Andresen's block chain scaling preferences and thus probably why Gavin wants him to be Satoshi:

Andresen’s only attempt at an explanation for Wright’s bizarre behavior, he says, is an ambivalence about definitively revealing himself after so many years in hiding. “I think the most likely explanation is that … he really doesn’t want to take on the mantle of being the inventor of Bitcoin,” says Andresen, who notes that his own credibility is at stake, too. “Maybe he wants things to be really weird and unclear, which would be bad for me.”

That uncertainty, Andresen says, seemed to be evident in Wright’s manner at the time of their demonstration. Andresen describes Wright as seeming “sad” and “overwhelmed” by the decision to come forward. “His voice was breaking.

Remember that after his death, David Kleiman's family recovered his USB flash drive and gave it to Craig Wright. Thus likely Craig Wright may have an unpublished transaction but not the actual private key. So he may be about to fool the world into thinking he is Satoshi, or making some proof that he was the man behind the man who was the real Satoshi.
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Excellent compilation, thanks! Share this around folks, I'm still seeing new articles appearing today in the mainstream media declaring that Wright is Satoshi. (For example, a Bloomberg article on the topic is currently featured on the RealClear family of websites and getting extensive play, that is pathetically outdated.)

thank you  Smiley

the attempt is to only add quality stuff. i guess that is a convincing collection already.
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Excellent compilation, thanks! Share this around folks, I'm still seeing new articles appearing today in the mainstream media declaring that Wright is Satoshi. (For example, a Bloomberg article on the topic is currently featured on the RealClear family of websites and getting extensive play, that is pathetically outdated.)
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While the exact numbers are unknown, it is true that there's a certain amount of people that either believe this nonsense and/or don't know why it is false.

This is the problem, because every bullshit creates a divide & conquer effect.

There will always be dumb people to believe the biggest lies. So if they keep pushing many lies one after another, we lose more an more people, and they could attempt a shady takeover like the bitcoin classic was.

If they gain enough support for that, then it could pose a serious risk to bitcoin after that.
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Busted my ass, there are still 20-30% of this forum that believe his hoax.

We need to expose it better, i cannot believe there are dumb people enough to believe this crap, but apparently there are.

Just go to /bitcoin reddit and you will see what i`m talking about

Would probably help if some of the mudslingers stuck to the message (Yes, I'm looking at you Lauda).
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this is the mother of all threads  Tongue
Then it should be constantly edited and updated, rather than opening another thread (which would become the 'new' "mother of all threads").

Busted my ass, there are still 20-30% of this forum that believe his hoax.
While the exact numbers are unknown, it is true that there's a certain amount of people that either believe this nonsense and/or don't know why it is false.

Just go to /bitcoin reddit and you will see what i`m talking about
On r/btc you will find out that this was all planned by Blockstream to get rid of Gavin. Roll Eyes
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Busted my ass, there are still 20-30% of this forum that believe his hoax.

We need to expose it better, i cannot believe there are dumb people enough to believe this crap, but apparently there are.

Just go to /bitcoin reddit and you will see what i`m talking about
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How many more threads are people going to open on this subject?


this is the mother of all threads  Tongue
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How many more threads are people going to open on this subject?

I wonder if Gavin's commit access will be permanently revoked? Do people honestly believe he wasn't in cahoots with Wright?
It should be. This is one strike too many; it is time to say farewell to GA.
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I wonder if Gavin's commit access will be permanently revoked? Do people honestly believe he wasn't in cahoots with Wright?

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-Hoaxtoshi aka Craig Wright busted-




Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto. He wasn’t Satoshi Nakamoto before or after Wired and Gizmodo suspected him to be last year, and he still isn’t Satoshi Nakamoto after trying to reveal himself to be on his own blog and to The BBC, The Economist, GQ, Jon Matonis and Gavin Andresen.

https://www.nikcub.com/posts/craig-wright-is-not-satoshi-nakamoto/


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Satoshi: how Craig Wright's deception worked

My previous post shows how anybody can verify Satoshi using a GUI. In this post, I'll do the same, with command-line tools (openssl). It's just a simple application of crypto (hashes, public-keys) to the problem.

http://blog.erratasec.com/2016/05/satoshi-how-craig-wrights-deception.html


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Extraordinary Satoshi Claims

It has become an annual exercise for the press to jump on a Satoshi sighting that it has almost become an ordinary event. What is extraordinary is when a previously attempted and debunked contender emerges with, yet again, unconvincing "proof."

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/02/extraordinary-satoshi-claims/


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Validating Satoshi (Or Not)

Yes, this is a scam.  Not maybe.  Not possibly.

https://dankaminsky.com/2016/05/02/validating-satoshi-or-not/


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Dr. Wrong and the Art of Digital Misdirection

http://jere.in/dr-wrong-and-the-art-of-digital-misdirection


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Craig Wright is a brilliant troll

http://blog.oleganza.com/post/143781316553/craig-wright-is-a-brilliant-troll


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A Short Human-Verifiable Proof that Craig Wright has Cheated the Press

http://blog.bettercrypto.com/?p=2614


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Is Craig Wright?

https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/


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https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hhreq/how_craig_constructed_the_message_that_he_signed/

https://imgur.com/IPDPXZm


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w027x/dr_craig_steven_wright_alleged_satoshi_by_wired/cxslii7

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Have journalists found the inventor of Bitcoin or simply been duped?

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/590543/journalists-found-inventor-bitcoin-simply-been-duped/
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