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Topic: HODL'ers lose. That is no surprise - page 11. (Read 3858 times)

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December 02, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
#76
It sounds like you may have lost rather a lot of money? If you jump into a market when it's already at the peak or near it, hoping for a massive rise then you are going to be disappointed. As another pointer has pointed out and i have on other threads if you bought when it was at say $200-1,000 then you are still showing a good profit.
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December 02, 2018, 03:58:40 PM
#75
Not until any Holder sells off his/her Bitcoin of cryptocurrencies, he's yet to actually be in any loss. So Holders may (not) be in nay loss depending on his decision during the dip.
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December 02, 2018, 03:44:58 PM
#74
i got many defferant cripto coins but i dont think about it high....
jr. member
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December 02, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
#73
So what's blockchain technology without bitcoin and cryptocurrency.  There has been no time that prices went up without it going down as such that is happening now.  Good coins will recover and never die.  This will really be a test of value and quality such that only good ones will survive this time.  Hodl for your personal reasons,  at the end you won't lose even if price dips. 

There are plenty of blockchain solutions and tool which do not use crypto currencies at all.

Blockchain does not need crypto.
Your opinion that blockchain technology does not need crypto is really debatable. This is because most blockchain based projects usually conduct ICOs to generate their own tokens and this has being the norm. I see crypto especially bitcoin as the driving force behind blockchain technology.
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December 02, 2018, 01:23:14 PM
#72
Is it worth reading this thread? HODLers don't lose until they sell, and by definition, they probably won't do that for another couple of years. In a couple of years Bitcoin will be worth considerably more than the current under-value. Well that's my opinion anyway.
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December 02, 2018, 01:17:33 PM
#71
If we are talking about "hodlers" who have been holding BTC for several years, then there is no way that anyone would lose. Even if someone bought at the top of the bubble in 2014, it now has a 300% profit. If we are talking about someone who keeps BTC for a year, he is not a "hodler" , but only a medium-term investor.
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December 02, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
#70

I disagree as well. For hodlers it maybe takes longer to make profits but as long as they just keep their coins they will not loose, only when they would panic sell. But a real hodler has balls of steel and just keep his coins.
Hodlers do not sell but in this current situation they shop cheap to profit again in some time.... anyway that's what I am doing. I m expanding my hodl portfolio...
I fully agree with you, because I am tired of hearing predictions about the collapse of Bitcoin. Why do these people come to Bitcoin, if they do not understand the elementary foundations of the market, they are not even enthusiasts, and those who want to get rich without losing anything without doing anything. I'm really sorry that there are many such people, because by selling Bitcoin on the way down, they make it a little weaker by acting together. This is very bad, but I hope that those who are know Bitcoin and believe in it will remain in place. I support, I make the portfolio thicker and just HODL...
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December 02, 2018, 01:04:01 PM
#69
"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.
Your statement is so crucial for the crypto market, what you need to know is that the crypto market does not always run well and every coin has a community that determines the value of the coin. crypto technology will change the market for the better and history has proven it, current value is not forever but in the future market will back normal again
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December 02, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
#68
Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.

I completely disagree with you as holding is not just for newbies, but even experienced people cause they understand the importance of holding. The common mistake with holding is, people assume holders never sell we holders do sell, but only when the price is right. As we recently saw many people dumped their coins in looses, and many people like me decided to hodl and sell only when we're in profits. I would never indulge in trading of bitcoins as you're likely to burn your hands, due to it's volatile nature.

I disagree as well. For hodlers it maybe takes longer to make profits but as long as they just keep their coins they will not loose, only when they would panic sell. But a real hodler has balls of steel and just keep his coins.
Hodlers do not sell but in this current situation they shop cheap to profit again in some time.... anyway that's what I am doing. I m expanding my hodl portfolio...
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December 02, 2018, 12:35:04 PM
#67
Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.

I completely disagree with you as holding is not just for newbies, but even experienced people cause they understand the importance of holding. The common mistake with holding is, people assume holders never sell we holders do sell, but only when the price is right. As we recently saw many people dumped their coins in looses, and many people like me decided to hodl and sell only when we're in profits. I would never indulge in trading of bitcoins as you're likely to burn your hands, due to it's volatile nature.
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December 02, 2018, 12:26:24 PM
#66
Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.
jr. member
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December 02, 2018, 12:19:16 PM
#65
Who said HODLERS lose? Well it is up to you. It is situational. If you just hold and not sell, youll lose what? If you are not going to sell what in your hand, youll lose nothing. You will lose if the price of the coin was lower than your investment. Youll just lose if you sell it that time. Think about it
I agree in your opinion cause it's up to you if you sell your coin now, we know the value is down so that you loss if you panic to sell it but if you hold it and wait for increasing you don't have to worry cause you never lose your investment.
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December 02, 2018, 02:50:47 AM
#64
Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Any crypto? So do you think Bitcoin will also be a dead end? Ok, even though Bitcoin has been dead more than 300 times, it is still alive.
If you think Bitcoin is so vulnerable, why are you coming here,at this Bitcoin forum?
jr. member
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December 02, 2018, 02:32:49 AM
#63
This is indeed another thread of hatred towards bitcoin, the only way a holder lose out is ,if the project died or if he or she decide to sell off at a lower price ,if not then no loss Here at all
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December 02, 2018, 02:12:10 AM
#62
Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.OP,did you lost any money due to the crypto price crash?Let me tell you something.Hodlers lose only if they decide to sell at a price that is lower than the price they have bought btc.If some guy had bought bitcoins at 200 USD back in 2014 and he is still holding,he can sell those btc at a big profit,even if the bitcoin price crashes to 2K USD.

a better example is those people who have been accumulating bitcoin at $200 to $250 range and then price fell down to $150. none of them really lose any money unless they fell for the idiotic FUD and panic sold their precious bitcoins.

currently we are in the same situation. people who have been accumulating in $6000-$7000 range have not really lost any money unless they fell for the FUD and panic sold. and you will soon see their profit when the whales stop manipulating.

There was very little capitalization ( a few million )  pre-2014 so it was easy for bitcoin to go up 100%, or down -100% & back-up. Bouncing $100-$200 is easy on a poker table with a small capitalization.

But now for bitcoin to go back up it would have to go up 1000%, and that my friends is a mathematical impossibility, as the $800 BILLION USD that evaporated  this year isn't coming back to the table,

For BTC to bounce back up, where in the hell is the new money supposed to come from?? Millions of people got burnt, and lost their wealth on the last bitcoin parabolic rise, who in the hell is going to BRING BIG MONEY BACK to a casino rigged by common criminals?
copper member
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December 02, 2018, 02:08:57 AM
#61
dont sit and watch prices all day ,there more  other markets where you can make money.big money came in 2017 and left 2018 ,they moved in other markets like stocks forex indices and etc ,value your time dont waste it just keep moving on where  money goes and come back when  crypto uptrend is confirmed 
yeah i think just wait for 3 - 6 month on my TA with Indicator RSI And MACD
and i hope crypto make an bullrun after we were rally for a long time and lost big money for it
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December 02, 2018, 02:06:41 AM
#60
Im a holder too, not just bitcoins but also with other cryprtos. Maybe the other  cryptos seems to fall and will soon have no value at all but as to bitcoin, this is a different matter. Bitcoin is still the its number spot , maybe at this moment its really a mess for it but as history told itself, soooner it will have its comeback. Maybe not in a snap of our magic wand, but slowly baby step. Same with the other popular coins out there. It is just part of the movement of the market. Patience is still the best way to have.
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December 02, 2018, 01:53:32 AM
#59
"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.
(bitcoin, blokchain and cryptocurrency) they are interrelated with each other and they will remain forever, regarding the problem of decreasing bitcoin now we can take it back if we have capital, the base price has shown $ 3700 and has passed, this recovery will not happens in an instant but it takes time to land, I personally still believe
I have read through so many replies and some ops are even saying blockchain operate independently of bitcoin and the blockchain have other features aside the operation of cryptographic, and a took my study further and discovered that cryptographic is the process of solving mathematical code and the blockchain is the engine room for this process. So the blockchain can not survive without bitcoin now back to the discussion hodling bitcoin for a long time is good and one should not term hodlers as fools or people who are not smart enough to get out when the price was still high, some people have a fixed time for they investment and in that way they will never sale no matter what the price is. Bitcoin is going to recover again but that will take time and no one can predict when that will be since bitcoin is a volatile commodity.
newbie
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December 02, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
#58
dont sit and watch prices all day ,there more  other markets where you can make money.big money came in 2017 and left 2018 ,they moved in other markets like stocks forex indices and etc ,value your time dont waste it just keep moving on where  money goes and come back when  crypto uptrend is confirmed 
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December 02, 2018, 01:40:59 AM
#57
It's no surprise that those panic sellers will surely lose in this volatile investment and those have patience will survive as long as they will not sell their bitcoin at losing price. This will bounce back at the right time and nothing to worry about this downfall as this will be ended once we have a good news to start a green market.
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