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June 21, 2023, 01:41:00 PM
#9
Boooooooring, the old gold vs bitcoin drivel.

Let's get Schiff and Pomp on here why were at it.

You have a portfolio with hedges and diversity, they are not mutually exclusive but work well together inside a portfolio.

BTC is getting rowdy and will give it a haircut tomorrow to secure my gains. However I will continue to DCA into it.

Don't go myopic 
what I'm saying is the fact that there is peoples who like gold,and peoples who like bitcoin or crypto, and it's not drivel. I think you should use at least a data, so we can have a good discussion here, and maybe it will be a quality discussion, so it could be helpful for other people.

It is presented as BTC vs Gold, all or nothing. That is drivel.

I literally explained that you can smartly use BOTH inside a portfolio. That is quality discussion.

You are talking out both sides your mouth
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June 21, 2023, 01:33:43 PM
#8
How about both assets equally or with distributed investment in both of them. I don’t know why make so much discussion if anyways we are going to listen ourselves and see our investment and manage our investments by all ourselves. Why bother in discussing which one is better. Both seems to have their own profoundness with historical importance. It is already known that both type of assets mentioned will keep growing in terms of pricing because they follow the rule of demand & supply. I think it’s not very long when we will see people trading ton of money for both kinds. I consider one as physical, sovereign type of asset while other as digital, modernised asset. They carry lot of value and that’s important.
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Eloncoin
June 21, 2023, 01:24:57 PM
#7
gold will still be up and running.

Inspite of Bitcoin has high volatility, But Bitcoin also will still be up and running. And as I said on the post, We should use Cold money to hold Bitcoin, and holding Gold too, I think.

Boooooooring, the old gold vs bitcoin drivel.

Let's get Schiff and Pomp on here why were at it.

You have a portfolio with hedges and diversity, they are not mutually exclusive but work well together inside a portfolio.

BTC is getting rowdy and will give it a haircut tomorrow to secure my gains. However I will continue to DCA into it.

Don't go myopic  
what I'm saying is the fact that there is peoples who like gold,and peoples who like bitcoin or crypto, and it's not drivel. I think you should use at least a data, so we can have a good discussion here, and maybe it will be a quality discussion, so it could be helpful for other people.
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June 21, 2023, 01:23:25 PM
#6
Boooooooring, the old gold vs bitcoin drivel.

Let's get Schiff and Pomp on here why were at it.

You have a portfolio with hedges and diversity, they are not mutually exclusive but work well together inside a portfolio.

BTC is getting rowdy and will give it a haircut tomorrow to secure my gains. However I will continue to DCA into it.

Don't go myopic 
legendary
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June 21, 2023, 01:16:52 PM
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It is not one or another imo. Gold and bitcoin both have their place in the financial system. (or outside the system) Bitcoin is fundamentally better than gold but it has one flaw. It is still digital. The problem with this is, we still live in a physical world (no metaverse isn't going to change that and the internet hasn't changed that.) and when/if everything goes down, believe it or not, bitcoin will go down too. The chance of that happening is pretty slim but if it happens, gold will still be up and running.

Bitcoin has almost every layer of safety to protect you from a financial crisis. Gold on the other hand has one more. Gold goes to eleven.
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Eloncoin
June 21, 2023, 01:09:07 PM
#4
looking at historical data


gold potential
 400     2500
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           ^gold position

btc potential
 15k         70k
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       ^btc position

anything more need to be said?
Could you describe what it means? does it mean that bitcoin is more potential dan gold for now ?
Nothing, and I mean nothing is hack proof. The thing with Bitcoin is that it just has been battle tested for a decade now, hence why it's very unlikely to be 'hacked'.
The right word is; "Almost impossible to hack"

If you're bullish for the long term, now. If you're not bullish at all, never.
Yes, now is the time for the long term and I already noted for the long answers for the reason, and even recommend to use cold money.

If you want something more specific, then damn go ask a fortune teller.

Fortune teller, I don't think fortune teller is smart people who can describe a fortune specifically as its name

By the way,in Indonesia, the fortune teller called as "Smart People", but most of them are poor and lack of future.
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Paldo.io 🤖
June 21, 2023, 01:06:18 PM
#3
- Why Bitcoin can't be hacked?
Nothing, and I mean nothing is hack proof. The thing with Bitcoin is that it just has been battle tested for a decade now, hence why it's very unlikely to be 'hacked'.


- So when is the right time to buy Bitcoin?
If you're bullish for the long term, now. If you're not bullish at all, never. If you want something more specific, then damn go ask a fortune teller.
legendary
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June 21, 2023, 01:03:17 PM
#2
looking at historical data


gold potential
 400     2500
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           ^gold position

btc potential
 15k         70k
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       ^btc position

anything more need to be said?

edit to reply to below
seems more needs to be said

yes in a known strategy of buy low sell high bitcoin is in the low whilst gold is at its high
so yes bitcoin has more upside potential
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Eloncoin
June 21, 2023, 12:55:46 PM
#1
In this topic I will tell you about two camps; people who like Bitcoin and people who like Gold. So, Hold Bitcoin or Hold Gold ?. We will see from several aspects; Historical, Creator, Supply, Environmental Issue, and Monetary Function.

Between Gold and Bitcoin BTC

 First, let's look at the historical side. Of course, Gold's history is much longer than Bitcoin's. Gold has existed since this world was created. Even thousands of years ago. Gold has been used as money and a medium of exchange since 550 BC in Lydia. While Bitcoin has only existed since January 2009. So Bitcoin historical data is not as far and long as gold.

 The second, we see from side of the creator. The creator of Gold is the universe, and the scientists believe gold came from meteorites that rained down on the earth 200 million years after the earth was formed. While Bitcoin was created by Satoshi Nakamoto , we still don't know who this Satoshi Nakamoto really is. He could be very smart person, It could be an institution, it could be a community group, or even it could be a creation of AI or Artificial Intelligence (My wild thought). We never know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Bitcoins are man made, it's man-made. But Bitcoins cannot be re-created or increased in number (The Supply).

 The third we will compare the amount of supply. Exactly how much is the maximum amount of gold supply?. We don't know, It could be suddenly find so many new gold sources that can be mined, so when there is additional supply, the assets will no longer be rare and worthless, so in the end the price goes down. While Bitcoin, the maximum supply is only 21 million coins and cannot be added again forever, This is what makes Bitcoin become so rare.

 The fourth is environmental issue. Well, environmental issues are becoming an important issue in the 21st century. Many parties (included some companies or firms) are vying to reduce their carbon footprint. For example, China has a carbon-free target by 2060. Mining gold from deep within the earth has a tremendous impact on the environment. And this is irreversible damage, while Bitcoin when compared to gold is more environmentally friendly, Because Bitcoin can be mined using renewable energy or cheaper energy. Bitcoin mining does not permanently damage the environment. In fact, there is no damage at all to Bitcoin mining activities. Because it happens on a computer network.

 Fifth, let's look at the monetary function. Even though gold is real money, money from the universe. And it was once considered money. But in the 21st century, gold has no monetary function. In the 21st century, gold is impractical, not portable ( as I said before in my last topic in Bitcoin Discussion) , and instead of making transactions easier, if we use gold , it makes transactions in this digital era more difficult. Wealth in the form of gold is not easy to move, especially across countries, during disasters, or wars. While Bitcoin makes transactions easier, because it can be done quickly through the Lightning Network, it can even cross countries. Bitcoin is also easily broken down to 1 satoshi, 1 satoshi is 0.000000001 Bitcoin, Zero by zero eight times behind. Bitcoins are also portable, Very easy to carry everywhere, because it's digital, can be accessed anywhere, the important thing is that we know our phrase. The price (value) of Bitcoin everywhere must be the same around the world, and as I said, the number of Bitcoins is limited, while the maximum amount of Gold supply is still unknown. Then about the risk, If this risk context is financial value, Gold is definitely very safe, Because the price is more stable and less volatile, but that doesn't mean there's no risk in saving gold, The risk of storing Gold is that the first is a thief, Yup, gold is very easy to steal. Why in ancient times did many kingdoms attack each other? Of course they were looking for gold. For example, in 215 BC, Rome stole gold from Macedonia, or after the Nazi fell, the gold was divided equally between America, Britain and France. Hmm, isn't it kind of theft too?. Gold storage is also difficult, to store large amounts of gold, you need a special place, tight security, and other thing, it's hard to move Gold in large quantities. Bitcoin is here as a solution to all of that. Bitcoins cannot be stolen. The Bitcoin network also can't be hacked.

Well, I think that’s all information about Hold Bitcoin VS Hold Gold. I really want to give you more informations, But I think it will be boring if the thread become so long to read, So I stopped, but also I think it’s a good way too for opening a discussion. I hope this thread could be a good discussion to expand our information and knowledge (well, inspite of there are people also said that News isn’t a Knowledge, I dont agree with that).

I also have a long answer of these questions :
 - Why Bitcoin can't be hacked?
 - So when is the right time to buy Bitcoin?


Sources / References :  - https://www.gold.org/history-gold/gold-as-currency
                                       - https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-14827624
                                       - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
                                       - https://chinadialogue.net/en/climate/chinas-2060-carbon-neutrality-target-opportunities-and-challenges/?amp&gclid=CjwKCAjwv8qkBhAnEiwAkY-ahjB_SI6Zsh-2s-FJyIT3gm2BuieqXhbF873STTearZIntxLYO63NDhoC734QAvD_BwE
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