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February 14, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
#40
My operating system has about 184 GB still available. But the same computer only has 7.88 GB of RAM still available.

That should be plenty for a half dozen staking wallets that must be kept open.
newbie
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February 01, 2019, 01:48:30 AM
#39
and why the virtualization and just pure Win 10?
sr. member
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January 31, 2019, 10:33:14 AM
#38
Why would anyone buy a big ass noisy and powerhungry server with 48GB RAM for staking?

Even a very old beaten up laptop with like 2GB RAM can run a couple wallets. You could even get a laptop with a broken screen or something nobody wants, setup remote access with a monitor plugged in, put it in the basement somewhere and forget about it while remotely connecting to it. It even has a built in UPS so even with poor batteries it will handle short power outages. It's really simple, no need to overcomplicate it with servers.

Depends on the individual wallets, some are very resource hungry.
legendary
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January 31, 2019, 07:08:54 AM
#37
Why would anyone buy a big ass noisy and powerhungry server with 48GB RAM for staking?

Even a very old beaten up laptop with like 2GB RAM can run a couple wallets. You could even get a laptop with a broken screen or something nobody wants, setup remote access with a monitor plugged in, put it in the basement somewhere and forget about it while remotely connecting to it. It even has a built in UPS so even with poor batteries it will handle short power outages. It's really simple, no need to overcomplicate it with servers.
legendary
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January 31, 2019, 07:01:24 AM
#36
Depending on the amount of coins you want to stake, an rPi might also be a good idear...

https://medium.com/@monkas/how-to-setup-your-raspberry-pi-for-staking-multiple-wallets-c30d133a2ecd

I've read a discussion on bitcointalk a long time ago, and if i remember correctly, an rPi should suffice for staking at least 3 coins, to bad i can't find the exact thread.

This way, your setup will be very cheap, and your power consumption will be minimal... Offcourse, this setup won't suffice if you're staking dozens of coins.

EDIT: after re-reading the thread, i noticed bathrobehero already gave the same suggestion... I did not delete this post because i think his suggestion was only made on the sideline of the discussion, and i think it deserves a bit more attention
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January 31, 2019, 05:50:22 AM
#35
Slovakia, but looks like there is some seller on ebay.co.uk selling similar stuff and shipping through out the europe. so considering it. have to read more about staking first
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January 31, 2019, 05:39:02 AM
#34
Stop listening to every one else: go buy yourself

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Virtualization-Server-8-Core-48GB-4x300GB-15K-1-2TB-PERC6i-/171307537270?hash=item27e2b99376:g:HfcAAOSwz71ZSpOj

it has 48GB RAM yes 48GB you can install windows 10 on it PRO buy a legit key for $15

you can run all the wallets/staking etc your heart desires...

good luck .

damn, sadly not shipping to Europe and looks like not similar alternative available now

Which country are you in?
newbie
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January 31, 2019, 03:57:32 AM
#33
Stop listening to every one else: go buy yourself

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Virtualization-Server-8-Core-48GB-4x300GB-15K-1-2TB-PERC6i-/171307537270?hash=item27e2b99376:g:HfcAAOSwz71ZSpOj

it has 48GB RAM yes 48GB you can install windows 10 on it PRO buy a legit key for $15

you can run all the wallets/staking etc your heart desires...

good luck .

damn, sadly not shipping to Europe and looks like not similar alternative available now
sr. member
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January 31, 2019, 03:22:44 AM
#32
Hi Guys,

I have about 300 wallets permanently open (acting as a node) or staking.

Ryzen 1700 (8 core/16 thread - overclocking set to manual in BIOS  and set to clock speeds)
64gb ram (3200mhz, set to 2933mhz, due to M/B restriction, also max supported by M/B)
2 x 4TB NAS HDDs (mirrored), nearly full, so considering 2 x 6TB next.
Win7 pro (lots of older wallets don't work on Win 10)
Oh, and 1030GT GPU (about 10 watts each)

Runs ok, but you would be amazed how poor some wallets are, could do with at least another 64GB

2nd PC with same spec but 2 x SSDs, this one runs the real bad wallets (about 40), some seem to just trash the hdds all day, and perform sooo much better on the ssds.

Power consumption about 300-350watt across the 2 PC's

Hope this helps.
J
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January 27, 2019, 10:17:10 AM
#31
server fans are quite loud, have HP DL160, especialy on the boot.
they are not quiet as in PC, far from that.
newbie
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January 27, 2019, 08:55:18 AM
#30
What about renting KVM vps server and encrypt your wallet.

You need to unlock it for staking so it's not safe.

It is safe, you can partially unlock with "only staking mode".
But yeah you will have to enter your passphrase in plain text but I don't think anyone can see the commands you enter when you connect with putty.
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.
January 26, 2019, 12:18:04 PM
#29
What about renting KVM vps server and encrypt your wallet.

You need to unlock it for staking so it's not safe.
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A non technical guy in a technical world
January 26, 2019, 11:58:10 AM
#28
I wonder if the OP ever got his sever running? This thread is  2 years old, surely there has been some progress.
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January 26, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
#27
I have a racked PC running Windows 10 with an i3 and 8Gb of ram (just bought the cheapest 2U case I could find). OS on a raid 0 of 2 SSDs, the blockchains on a separate HDD. Got a whole bunch of wallets open yet it is still very responsive.

It's hooked up to an APC UPS.
newbie
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January 26, 2019, 07:00:57 AM
#26
What about renting KVM vps server and encrypt your wallet.
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.
January 26, 2019, 02:09:41 AM
#25
You sort of nailed it. It almost always matters a lot how many blocks a coin have. Coins with 2-3-4 million coins are almost always way slower. But there are also some coins with awful wallets, regardless of block numbers. They might look pretty and whatnot but they might be either crashing a lot or be resource hogs or just be generally annoying (dropping nodes, losing sync/forking off, frequent mandatory manual upgrade, etc).

Pwpwpw's experience also isn't unwarranted. PIVX used to lose all sync after each crash (and for a long time it forked off very frequently) but that has been fixed a while ago so it's better.

But, even though each wallet share some part of their codebase, they can be very different in terms of how they run. So realistically, the question isn't how many wallets you can run, but rather what coins? It's a weird mix and match but ignoring some really awful wallets (Verge, Ultracoin, Cryptonite (M7) are my most hated ones coming to mind) I think people way overestimate how much resources you need to stake. I mean the wallet might start slow and it might use the pagefile but once it's running, generally it's not using virtually any resources. There are some weird wallets though with frequent 100% CPU usage, regardless of what CPU you throw at it. Or wallets that have frequent high CPU usage so much they lag behind a few blocks with more than a few peers (I'm guessing someone syncing from you has some issues).

So anyway, I'd just run what I can if I were you and look at resource monitor or whatnot to see if there are any serious bottlenecks semi-long term.
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January 26, 2019, 12:01:02 AM
#24
Hey guys,
I'm staking about 3-4 coins on my main PC right now and they eat up about 4-5GB ram (win7 x64 OS) and every time I restart/crash it's annoying to load unlock all wallets again, or copy old backup blockchain in case of pivx (database corrupts with every crash) also I'm thinking to add new staking coins, so I'd need some kind of a quiet home server. Building it from new parts seems to be quite expensive, small ITX cases, new mobo, cpu, ram, it can go up to 500$ very easily and it doesn't even have storage. I'm not sure if normal HDDs can handle multiple staking wallets, right now I'm on a 500GB SSD (this handles anything easily). Share if you know any good used older model home servers, like dell optiplex models, they are not really servers but I used a few of them and they are quite reliable. I'm not sure if ECC ram and xeon cpu is really needed for 24/7 staking, I don't think it's a must, any i5 cpu should be fine about 8gb of ram. Hit me up with some suggestions. Thanks



But another poster is having a good time staking with little GB. See below.





I have rigs running with up to 8 wallets with only 4GB ram, lots of pagefile and a dualcore Pentium without issues.





So what is the difference between the computers these two guys are using for staking?  Why the difference in staking experience?

Will my 6 GB computer be able to handle just how many staking wallets?  Does the age of the blockchain matter because of how many blocks there are with older blockchains?  What else may matter?

How many staking wallets can a 8 GB computer handle?

 
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January 16, 2018, 05:08:09 PM
#23
I have a Precision T7610 and it works like a charm...love it.  Especially when staking multiple wallets and wallets that let you run a MN on your own tower instead of VPS.  I was so lucky, I got mine from a uni selling their old units with 64GB of RAM with 2x Xeon E5-2630 v2 2.6GHz

legendary
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July 13, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
#22
If I had to put $2200 in crypto right now I would buy dcr and then pos mine it. But that is just me.

mmh not sure it is a good thing, but in the past with decred it was possible to do 0.5 btc/month with just 1k decree now you can only do 0.3 btc/month with 2k decree

by the time you reach 1/4 or half of your roi time you will do much less than that, at some point you will be forced to sell your decred, hoping that they are not undervalued...
hero member
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July 13, 2017, 04:29:44 PM
#21
Stop listening to every one else: go buy yourself

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Virtualization-Server-8-Core-48GB-4x300GB-15K-1-2TB-PERC6i-/171307537270?hash=item27e2b99376:g:HfcAAOSwz71ZSpOj

it has 48GB RAM yes 48GB you can install windows 10 on it PRO buy a legit key for $15

you can run all the wallets/staking etc your heart desires...

good luck .

Way overkill and likely very loud.

I have rigs running with up to 8 wallets with only 4GB ram, lots of pagefile and a dualcore Pentium without issues.
Which ones are you staking out of interest? I'm thinking about investing in a few alts long term and let the wallets stake. Has anyone made a yield comparison anywhere?
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