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Topic: Honey Boo Boo Asks,"WTF Is Bitcoin? Aint It Like Bacon?" - page 3. (Read 4699 times)

legendary
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""Personally, I incur 0% fees per year on my credit cards. All of them have no annual fee, no fees for bank transfers ever on my cards, no late payment fees ever for an unlimited amount of times, 1 and 2% cash back on everything(one of my cards is 1% but it is MasterCard I have to sometimes use), I get 5% cash back on purchases in the rotating 3 month categories(I  have 4 credit cards all linked to one b ank account, and whichever card has the 5% off of whatever I am buying I use that).
If you wanna read my thread head over to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/retracted-previous-statements-558479 as i am directly talking about this kinda thing.


you dont incur fee's but the retailer does..where the hell do you think you get your 5% cashback from.. if they dont charge 5% to customers in interest. then they charge it to retailers. the rule apply the other way. where customers are charged a small fee, the retailer pays less fee's

either way there is a large 2.5%+ swing in price.. bitcoin is far cheaper. EITHER for the customer or the retailer, depending on which card payment provider they have.

bitcoin is also useful for preventing chargebacks which also cost retailers money. retailers receive the customers ACTUAL value far sooner then a credit card provider can give it.
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...But BTC doesn't solve any problems for the majority of people and you know it."


Triple facepalm:
The value of the USD is down ~97% since the birth of the Federal Reserve and you claim "BTC doesn't solve any problems for the majority of people."
You have not convinced me.  Tongue
legendary
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4) metal is heavy and takes effort to move between people, having to use postal services to transport it. bitcoin is not metal. its computer code. which can travel the world in seconds, like email. so imagine where posting a letter became email, where instead of packaging it up into a box to send on a truck, a program on your computer sends the valuable message instead.


I have to tell you, Number 4 is wrong. People buy and trade on futures of gold and on IOUs. This is done electronically too, you don't need to ever have the gold, and chances are when you buy it you will not be receiving it unless you opt to choose for that (most people don't because it is easier to sell later).

what you are talking about is not true value.. but fake value.. basicaly making a bet.. its not a store of value.. thus my walkthrogh was talking about actual stores of value. meaning actual gold ownership. not a bet/gamble on a price.

take for example the winklevoss project.
the want people to invest into winklevoss.. not to buy bitcoins directly but to invest into winklevoss, where investers are hoping that winklevoss value will rise because the twins hold X amount (owned by only the twins) and the profits come from the business valuation after a price rise.. not based on investors having bitcoin and the investors own possessions have risen in price.

anyone investing into winklevoss, does not own a single bitcoin. they own a balance amount on a database on a winklevoss server..

do not be tricked into these fake schemes that are not real stores of wealth. they are purely to make more FIAT profits based on gambling. not hoarding rare materials directly.
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I have to tell you, Number 4 is wrong. People buy and trade on futures of gold and on IOUs. This is done electronically too, you don't need to ever have the gold, and chances are when you buy it you will not be receiving it unless you opt to choose for that (most people don't because it is easier to sell later).

The problem with this is that you have to trust a third party to honour the IOUs, and rely on overpaid middlemen to do the transfer. Bitcoin is much more practical in that regard, so I think Franky's argument #4 is quite valid.
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So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy

Isn't this joke about USAnians getting a bit old? I don't have to look far to see overweight and ignorant people in the EU. And in fact, some of the most open minded and kind people I have met were people who moved to my country from the USA.

There are many studies that show being overweight is actually healthier than being average weight. Maybe we are on to something! Or maybe we all sit at a desk for our jobs and commute too much and don't sleep enough and have no energy to do anything, + all the fat in foods and horrible stuff we eat also. Smiley
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legendary
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i hate comparing gold/paypal to bitcoin.. but its what average joe understands.

so: walkthrough
1) gold is not insured by a government should you lose it, you cant simply ask your bank for a new lump of gold in the manner you ask for a new debit card. you need to learn how to secure and look after gold yourself.

telling people the combination to your safe is risky, ptting your gold into a strangers safe is even more riskier, gold is not like FIAT at all.

2) be aware that gold prices change alot more then FIAT prices

3) replace the word 'gold' with 'bitcoin' and you are getting the picture.

4) metal is heavy and takes effort to move between people, having to use postal services to transport it. bitcoin is not metal. its computer code. which can travel the world in seconds, like email. so imagine where posting a letter became email, where instead of packaging it up into a box to send on a truck, a program on your computer sends the valuable message instead.

5) if you have ever used paypal you have a username and password to get to play around with your wealth, the username is your identity. and the password is your proof that the identity belongs to you. where you are safe to tell people your username so they can send you funds. but never ever tell anyone your password. Well bitcoin is similar. the public key is your username. you can have millions of them if you want and you dont even need to register or fill in lots of forms to get the keys. the private key, that is your password. DONT TELL ANYONE

6) the private key is the most important thing of all. the private is not only the proof of access but the final public key is created via the private key. you can make, as i said before many private keys and they all generate a public key that only responds to that private key

7) if talking about public and private has started to lose your understanding then replace public with username and private with password. to get you back on track.

Cool if you want to go into more detail on how the transactions work, read-on. or use this point as a chance to make yourself a coffee

9) imagine a cashiers cheque. it has a payee line, an amount and a bunch of numbers along the bottom to represent who it is from. when cashing a cheque. a clearing house service will check the FROM information to ensure funds are available. the clearing house will take a few days changing the balance of where the funds came from. and then crediting you with that amount. the banks instead of just reading the ledger of every cheque ever processed to see who sent what to who. to get a proper balance of who owns what at any point in time. they have a separate "balance" database that corresponds to the ledger of.. 'cheque stubs'.
with bitcoin its similar at the start it needs to know where the funds came from and that the person is authorized to send them, the amount being sent, and the recipients details. BUT instead of having a easy to use "account balance" database that can be manipulated (printing money) the proof of value held is done purely by adding up and subtracting the ledger/cheque stubs to get the total.

10) most of you new people dont need to know all the intricate details of how cheques work. same for bitcoin. as long as you know that it does work and is safe. well bitcoin is ALOT safer then cheque clearing and bank account balances in this respect.

11) the even better part is that there is not one single bank/clearing house that has all the copies of the ledger/cheque stubs. with bitcoin anyone has the entire ledger/cheque stub listings and anyone can, with the right program/website be able to check the total value currently held by any public address.

12) this stops people/banks from tampering with it, because if the millions of people who have a copy, notice a single ledger/cheque stub listing that has been altered or does not show the value previously existing in that persons previous ledger/stub. it would be ignored.
legendary
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I Love some things about the USA world, but the "average American human" is pretty scary these days.

FTFY

 Grin

I still have some optimism about the "average person", but education needs to radically improve soon.
Pooblic Sckool hads an effection on my ebilaties.
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I Love some things about the USA world, but the "average American human" is pretty scary these days.

FTFY

 Grin
legendary
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So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy

Isn't this joke about USAnians getting a bit old? I don't have to look far to see overweight and ignorant people in the EU. And in fact, some of the most open minded and kind people I have met were people who moved to my country from the USA.

Perhaps they moved away from the USA because they were open minded and kind people?
I Love some things about the USA, but the "average American" is pretty scary these days.
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My wife asks me questions like that about bitcoin
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So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy

Isn't this joke about USAnians getting a bit old? I don't have to look far to see overweight and ignorant people in the EU. And in fact, some of the most open minded and kind people I have met were people who moved to my country from the USA.
legendary
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The names "Honey Boo Boo", "Joe Blow", "Edith Bunker", "Rose Nylund", "Anna Nichole Smith", "Jessica Simpson", "Ann Coulter", "Sarah Palin", "Kim Kardashian", and "your grandma" were all used examples of average people.  This is obvious from context even if you don't bother to search for any of these names on the internet.


So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy

FYI:
Sarah Palin & Kim Kardashian are not nearly as smart as "Joe Blow".
legendary
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The names "Honey Boo Boo", "Joe Blow", "Edith Bunker", "Rose Nylund", "Anna Nichole Smith", "Jessica Simpson", "Ann Coulter", "Sarah Palin", "Kim Kardashian", and "your grandma" were all used examples of average people.  This is obvious from context even if you don't bother to search for any of these names on the internet.
So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy

The OP seems to think so.  It is up to each individual to determine for themselves how much they trust the opinion of the OP.

Based on some of the other posts that I've seen from them, I don't value their opinion very much on any topics.
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The names "Honey Boo Boo", "Joe Blow", "Edith Bunker", "Rose Nylund", "Anna Nichole Smith", "Jessica Simpson", "Ann Coulter", "Sarah Palin", "Kim Kardashian", and "your grandma" were all used examples of average people.  This is obvious from context even if you don't bother to search for any of these names on the internet.


So this Honey Boo Boo is an example of the average people in America? Good to know Cheesy
legendary
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who is Honey Boo Boo? Sounds stupid

She is a fat, spoiled American child who ended up in a "stupid" TV show.
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Before they ask the questions they have it is better to read about bitcoin twice first

They wont do an internet search, but we have to ...to know who they are ...if we dont ...some Hero Member will call us Troll Cheesy
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of course it's like bacon. Sleep well Honey Boo Boo!
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who is Honey Boo Boo? Sounds stupid
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