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legendary
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October 01, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
#22
ISIS aren't a threat to democracy, they're a bunch of psychopaths bent on killing us all that managed to form a state.

They did not manage to form a state!  Where do you get your information?

They have formed a state dumbass, just because they aren't recognised by the other countries doesn't mean they haven't, much like how the Kurds are holding their own in Iraq and have their own territory I recognise that as a state even if Americans won't, ISIS even have their own financial centre and healthcare supposedly, of course, all of the money is plundered from the U.S lol but they're using the oil they captured and are selling it to other countries to fund themselves.

Just because someone calls themselves "the State of _____", doesn't make them a state!   I asked you: where do you get your information from?   Because it sounds like you believe exactly what ISIS says.   And I'm the dumbass?  LOL

It's not even about them calling themselves a "State of...", the western media/politics officially named them a 'State'.

ISIS = Islamic State in Iraq and Syria

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
October 01, 2014, 12:46:34 PM
#21
State's aren't formed on another countries say so, they're just formed, the fact that you 'need' information from another government just shows you don't understand that, do I need to go into the intricacies of Scotland and Catalonia to explain all this to you? Or are you just going to ignore history?

If I have to, I guess I should talk about the United States being originally part of the British Empire, or are you claiming that they needed acknowledgement from Britain before they became a nation state?
hero member
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October 01, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
#20
ISIS aren't a threat to democracy, they're a bunch of psychopaths bent on killing us all that managed to form a state.

They did not manage to form a state!  Where do you get your information?

They have formed a state dumbass, just because they aren't recognised by the other countries doesn't mean they haven't, much like how the Kurds are holding their own in Iraq and have their own territory I recognise that as a state even if Americans won't, ISIS even have their own financial centre and healthcare supposedly, of course, all of the money is plundered from the U.S lol but they're using the oil they captured and are selling it to other countries to fund themselves.

Just because someone calls themselves "the State of _____", doesn't make them a state!   I asked you: where do you get your information from?   Because it sounds like you believe exactly what ISIS says.   And I'm the dumbass?  LOL
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Crypto Liberty
October 01, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
#19

電於民!
Power to the people!
hero member
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October 01, 2014, 03:19:49 AM
#18
Done, hope the protesters get some of the things they want and stay safe
hero member
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October 01, 2014, 02:56:22 AM
#17
白宫就香港抗议“我们人民”请愿之回复
请看博讯热点:占领中环
(博讯北京时间2014年10月01日 来稿)
   
   
     收到白宫white house来信,标题是Response to We the People Petition on the Protests in Hong Kong(就香港抗议“我们人民”请愿之回复),我看试着翻译了一下,并已发布在推特上。全文内容如下。


   
    英文:
    Response to We the People Petition on the Protests in Hong Kong
   
    We are watching the situation in Hong Kong closely. Around the world, the United States supports internationally recognized fundamental freedoms, such as freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of expression. We urge the Hong Kong authorities to exercise restraint, and for protestors to express their views peacefully.
   
    The United States supports universal suffrage in Hong Kong in accordance with the Basic Law and we support the aspirations of the Hong Kong people. We believe that an open society, with the highest possible degree of autonomy and governed by the rule of law, is essential for Hong Kong’s stability and prosperity -- indeed this is what has made Hong Kong such a successful and truly global city. We have consistently made our position known to Beijing, and we will continue to do so.
   
    We believe that the legitimacy of the Chief Executive will be greatly enhanced if the Basic Law's ultimate aim of selection of the Chief Executive by universal suffrage is fulfilled and if the election provides the people of Hong Kong a genuine choice of candidates representative of the voters' will.
   
    我的中文译稿:
   
    我们密切关注香港局势。在全世界范围内,美国支持国际认同的基本自由,包括和平集会自由与表达自由。我们敦请香港当局保持克制,以保障抗议者和平地表达他们的观点。
   
    美国支持港人依《基本法》规定进行普选,我们支持香港人民的雄心壮志。我们相信,一个最大程度地自治和实施法治的开放社会,于香港而言是至关重要的——事实上,正因如此,香港得以获得成功并成为国际化都市。我们已经一贯如此向北京表达我们的立场,并将继续这样做。
   
    我们相信:如果通过普选得以实现《基本法》选举特首之最终目标,如果选举提供给港人真实选择权、以选出反映投票者意愿之代表,则特首的合法性将大大提升。
   
    ——全文翻译完毕,请大家指正完善。也欢迎哪位IT高手把全文制成图片,予以传播。
    一边翻译,一边感叹美国政府的措辞了得!一方面,批评此前特首之产生不够合法;另一方面,将普选作为特首合法性的前提,无懈可击——虽然表达方式委婉含蓄——党国又要说这是美帝干涉中国内政了。
   
    肖国珍20140930 [博讯来稿]
legendary
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October 01, 2014, 02:35:10 AM
#16
ISIS aren't a threat to democracy, they're a bunch of psychopaths bent on killing us all that managed to form a state.

They did not manage to form a state!  Where do you get your information?

They have formed a state dumbass, just because they aren't recognised by the other countries doesn't mean they haven't, much like how the Kurds are holding their own in Iraq and have their own territory I recognise that as a state even if Americans won't, ISIS even have their own financial centre and healthcare supposedly, of course, all of the money is plundered from the U.S lol but they're using the oil they captured and are selling it to other countries to fund themselves.
full member
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September 30, 2014, 11:28:08 PM
#15
Cost of living is extremely high in Hong Kong. People there need to have 2 jobs just to survive.

Surprise the protest didn't happen a lot earlier.
POM
sr. member
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September 30, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
#14
I hope they are safe.
hero member
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September 30, 2014, 10:01:28 PM
#13
ISIS aren't a threat to democracy, they're a bunch of psychopaths bent on killing us all that managed to form a state.

They did not manage to form a state!  Where do you get your information?
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
September 30, 2014, 09:57:58 PM
#12
We should get some donations for these people... Is it possible for those people to give up using government issued money and use bitcoin instead?

I guess in that case many government function will stop working, since their money are not accepted anywhere, they can't control many entities using printed money anymore
full member
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September 30, 2014, 07:55:44 PM
#11
Ha, it would make sense the pro-KKKremlin crowd would support the suppression of free will and speech.

After all, Russia and China are blood soaked totalitarian regimes that worship at the same blood drenched altars.

But why would the KKKRemlinites support the Chi-Coms? China is POISED to take Siberia from you.

Asia is for ASIANS, not Russian carpetbaggers. Stay the FUCK OUT.
hero member
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September 30, 2014, 08:52:31 AM
#10
Another colored revolution
full member
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September 30, 2014, 08:23:04 AM
#9
Nothing serious will happen unless something drastic is done during the protest.
hero member
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September 30, 2014, 05:30:04 AM
#8
support HK

legendary
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September 29, 2014, 08:25:38 AM
#7
thatcher should have told peking to fuck off and given everyone in hong kong british citizenship
legendary
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September 29, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
#7
It's better to support Pakistan.



Massive riots during last 40 days, people are trying break down a "tyranny of the corrupt PM". I'm not surprised to see that there is no Fox, BBC, CNN or forum trolls coverage. Because protesting against US puppet is not democratic by definition. People are allowed to install the puppet... But any attempt to remove it will be an undemocratic crime against the statehood, which doesn't worth any coverage in free & democratic press. Grin
legendary
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September 29, 2014, 07:19:50 AM
#6
ISIS aren't a threat to democracy, they're a bunch of psychopaths bent on killing us all that managed to form a state.
sr. member
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September 29, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
#5
What's happening in HK virtually uncommented by mainstream media given the distraction that ISIS provides is a huge test case for democracy and civil liberties already tough situation in the region
legendary
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September 29, 2014, 07:04:15 AM
#4
You mean like Ukraine? Yeah, I know what you mean.
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