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Call me Alice. just Alice.
OP. Blackmail. Really. Me u r talking about. It's not blackmail. It's your site pay people what they are due. Screen shots are not blackmail. Once again stop saying crap that is not true.



Look youre  the only one who lost so please send me the amount on pm and I shall send it to you, I'm to do it.
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OP. Blackmail. Really. Me u r talking about. It's not blackmail. It's your site pay people what they are due. Screen shots are not blackmail. Once again stop saying crap that is not true.

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@jin. Lol cry I think not.
 When a bonus or jackpot is placed it has to be paid. Not rolled over if the horse wins that has the jackpot.
 It was said in chat which is wrong.  And op throwing coinage around is to apease the people.
  Go to any casino sports book or where ever, have a jackpot placed then because the jackpot horse, bonus or what ever won. It was moved to the next race.
  Show me that somewhere @jin.
It's not fair or ethical. And for those who say the won on the first shadow fax win. Did win some off the other horses that lost. But not the full amount off the jackpot.

So please understand how things should be paid out weather its live or a computer that generared the race, the amount of bet vs players vs % of bonus payout is the same.
 Perhaps you do not know that.
  But all I stated was people where short changed and it was not fair.
 
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Call me Alice. just Alice.
Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.


It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.

Great you have shown up  Smiley

Thanks for explaining but that was quite obvious to begin with i am not sure the guy was talking about anything you spoke about but he was actually saying you should not have rolled the bonus over and he said this before the race  Huh

Is it true that he put a % of the bonus payment?

In the near future are you going to be able to prove this site is provably fair because at the moment i can't seem to find anything that shows me this?

No he did not contribute to this Jackpot but he did contribute to some other bonuses a week before.
I tried to explain in PM but he went from happy to furious in one second without listening to my explanation and trying to blackmail me. But I'm happy to repay what he lost to show good faith Smiley
I also thought the jackpot would roll over but it didn't! I managed to fix the problem I had with the bonus code within the last 10 minutes of the race. So the only fault from me was that I did not announce in time that the bonus would not roll over as I thought it would but rather pay out and be distributed as it should have.

I am planing on a system to make it probably fair and allow all players to see what the other players beted, to make it more transparent Smiley I'm working constantly on improving the website and I'm also looking for a Dev to help me sinc there's lots of work to be done Smiley
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Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.


It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.

Great you have shown up  Smiley

Thanks for explaining but that was quite obvious to begin with i am not sure the guy was talking about anything you spoke about but he was actually saying you should not have rolled the bonus over and he said this before the race  Huh

Is it true that he put a % of the bonus payment?

In the near future are you going to be able to prove this site is provably fair because at the moment i can't seem to find anything that shows me this?
hero member
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Call me Alice. just Alice.
Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.


It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.
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@ networthsigns   a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over,

    

You clearly knew the rules as dev had obviously stated in chat according to your post. It would ROLL over. You lost get over it, bonus was rolled over as it should have.

And your experience with real horse racing means nothing here, this is a virtual race with Bitcoin created by the op.


Don't be so off the ball of course experience with any kind of betting means something on a betting site. Yes from what i read he knew that the bonus would roll over and he advised not to do that before they done that and they done that so that is probably what is annoying him. I don't think he really cares he lost when the bonus was contributed by him anyway  Huh Where is the Op when all this is going on?
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@ networthsigns   a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over,

    

You clearly knew the rules as dev had obviously stated in chat according to your post. It would ROLL over. You lost get over it, bonus was rolled over as it should have.

And your experience with real horse racing means nothing here, this is a virtual race with Bitcoin created by the op.
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I for one loved the bonus, like the rest of the people in the chat Smiley I hope to see one like it soon !
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@sevenout you're blackmailing OP for a lose, rules have been clearly stated before and it looks like you're the only one who lost. Stop blsckmailinging and OPT might even be nice to you and explain but I'll doubt you'll listen.
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OP and please do not say I am Mad that I lost,, lol, I said i did not care,  but you are now pissing me off,,, please show me this .1 that you claim you have given me... as I have the proof to show that i sent u coins to cover the bonuses for you.. so please do the right thing now and pay me the odds that I wagered on Shadow fax plus the % of the winnings from the other horses that lost.
 I will and can do this in the public forum if you would like... so i lol at i am mad that i lost comment   i am super pissed that i actually bet on the winning horse and u decided to roll it over,, i am not the only one who lost out..

   so please do not say stupid things to try and cover your butt,  I will give till the morning my time to pay what is oowed on that race to me and the others,,, Cause you can bet your butt i do care now.
   slander is a scared mans way of admitting a mistake and does not look good either,,

      If you just listened when i told you that if you roll it over you were going to screw people this would have never happened.
   so my % of what is mine of the bonus or jackpot or what ever makes you feel better by the morning and this will be over.

   once again like i said i could have cared less about my % but was worried about the others,, BUT NOW I CARE ABOUT MY %,
    dont try to slander me with a bunch of B.S.

  I have no problem showing the public forum the message about the bonus race and your first reply   so now that i am super pissed.
   

You dont have to actually do this, all you need to do is ask nicely to sakarias, he will explain it in details what is wrong to you, and this blackmailing will get you nowhere, sakarias might not give it to you due to your threat to him
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OP and please do not say I am Mad that I lost,, lol, I said i did not care,  but you are now pissing me off,,, please show me this .1 that you claim you have given me... as I have the proof to show that i sent u coins to cover the bonuses for you.. so please do the right thing now and pay me the odds that I wagered on Shadow fax plus the % of the winnings from the other horses that lost.
 I will and can do this in the public forum if you would like... so i lol at i am mad that i lost comment   i am super pissed that i actually bet on the winning horse and u decided to roll it over,, i am not the only one who lost out..

   so please do not say stupid things to try and cover your butt,  I will give till the morning my time to pay what is oowed on that race to me and the others,,, Cause you can bet your butt i do care now.
   slander is a scared mans way of admitting a mistake and does not look good either,,

      If you just listened when i told you that if you roll it over you were going to screw people this would have never happened.
   so my % of what is mine of the bonus or jackpot or what ever makes you feel better by the morning and this will be over.

   once again like i said i could have cared less about my % but was worried about the others,, BUT NOW I CARE ABOUT MY %,
    dont try to slander me with a bunch of B.S.

  I have no problem showing the public forum the message about the bonus race and your first reply   so now that i am super pissed.
   

lol at blackmailing.

OP have clearly even states before that if the bonus horse would win the bonus would be placed again with the other bets. Please read the rules even before you cry
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OP and please do not say I am Mad that I lost,, lol, I said i did not care,  but you are now pissing me off,,, please show me this .1 that you claim you have given me... as I have the proof to show that i sent u coins to cover the bonuses for you.. so please do the right thing now and pay me the odds that I wagered on Shadow fax plus the % of the winnings from the other horses that lost.
 I will and can do this in the public forum if you would like... so i lol at i am mad that i lost comment   i am super pissed that i actually bet on the winning horse and u decided to roll it over,, i am not the only one who lost out..

   so please do not say stupid things to try and cover your butt,  I will give till the morning my time to pay what is oowed on that race to me and the others,,, Cause you can bet your butt i do care now.
   slander is a scared mans way of admitting a mistake and does not look good either,,

      If you just listened when i told you that if you roll it over you were going to screw people this would have never happened.
   so my % of what is mine of the bonus or jackpot or what ever makes you feel better by the morning and this will be over.

   once again like i said i could have cared less about my % but was worried about the others,, BUT NOW I CARE ABOUT MY %,
    dont try to slander me with a bunch of B.S.

  I have no problem showing the public forum the message about the bonus race and your first reply   so now that i am super pissed.
   
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@ Jin Xiou,,    I am not mad at all,, i am clearly stating what transpired,, I am Libby5 on the site, so as u can see i was very helpful there, I am not mad at all once again, But its crazy to just flip a bonus or a jackpot to the next race when the horse with the jackpot one.
 I also said I believe it  was not malicious, But when it was asked in chat if the horse with the jackpot won, what would happen, the reply was roll it over to the next race.
 i on my own sent OP a pm stating that it  is not right and if the horse does win it should be paid out in full and not rolled over to appease a few,

   i wish OP well and hope that he understands how the odds should be paid out so this does not occur again,,
 good luck to all of you  
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Not sure why everyone's mad, maybe something weird happened ? Game is in late beta tho. I myself won a lot Beting on shadowfax. And really OP is giving away free BTC a all the time, check his giveaway thread, and his always handing out bonuses and just free BTC a to players.

mate, it's not about getting free bitcoins, but more about having some sort of standards. like the jackpot shouldn't count as a player right???

if the jackpot counts as a player..... then it's not a jackpot at all.
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Not sure why everyone's mad, maybe something weird happened ? Game is in late beta tho. I myself won a lot Beting on shadowfax. And really OP is giving away free BTC a all the time, check his giveaway thread, and his always handing out bonuses and just free BTC a to players.
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@ networthsigns   a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over, now for people that bet on shadow fax they should have gotten the bonus plus the wagers of the other races,,,
 not roll over the bonus to the other race,
 i myself came forward and offered my assistance to the OP as it was me who sent the coinage to cover some bonuses,
 I was going to be apart of the site with OP, but being honest to all and 1gallon can confirm that I am a professional gambler and know the odds and how things should work.

    I can not in good faith be a part of a site where a bonus is not paid out but rolled over, Sorry OP My reputation is worth more than anything.
 Now in OPs  defense  i do not think it was a malicious move but rather a move of not knowing any better,

   No hard feelings OP.. But when i told you u cant roll the bonus over to the next race it was because i do know what i am talking about.
   I believe the site can be good, but things have to be a straight line, and rules cannot be changed at will.

    best  of luck to all that play there...

  

Thank you for clearing that up for me and it does sound like that was an honest mistake to me so i will give it a go and see how it goes i used the faucet and earned few satoshi 'good idea op' but now i will deposit a small amount and have a few races. You should stick around if you realize it was probably an honest mistake sounds like you will be a benefit to the site and the op and also anyone that comes to play here. I think it has a good feel to it and will no doubt be played a lot in the not so distant future.
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@ networthsigns   a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over, now for people that bet on shadow fax they should have gotten the bonus plus the wagers of the other races,,,
 not roll over the bonus to the other race,
 i myself came forward and offered my assistance to the OP as it was me who sent the coinage to cover some bonuses,
 I was going to be apart of the site with OP, but being honest to all and 1gallon can confirm that I am a professional gambler and know the odds and how things should work.

    I can not in good faith be a part of a site where a bonus is not paid out but rolled over, Sorry OP My reputation is worth more than anything.
 Now in OPs  defense  i do not think it was a malicious move but rather a move of not knowing any better,

   No hard feelings OP.. But when i told you u cant roll the bonus over to the next race it was because i do know what i am talking about.
   I believe the site can be good, but things have to be a straight line, and rules cannot be changed at will.

    best  of luck to all that play there...

    
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.1 or .15* whichever happened to have been paid out
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Bonus distribution must have gone right considering i bet on Shadowbox the first round and made a hell of a profit

I think what you won were from the losses from the other horses, but not from the jackpot* (bonus) itself.


But the profit was around 0.04 I think, one the next race I won again but then beted against the jackpot horse
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