Topic: How a Global Epidemic is helping counties see the bigger picture - page 2. (Read 403 times)

sorry to say this but it looks like your happy with what the virus had bought  .they are uniting and helping the affected country but this is only for this moment  .

 by the time that the problem is sort , these countries will becom selfish again and start whatever wars they have postponed or planning  . that is the sad truth  , why can they just retain this mentality  forever and not only if there are major problems  . the world can be a better place  then if that happens  .

Everybody is helping but in the same time they hold the virus at a safe distance. Usually nations change their behaviour when facing a serious threat, like this virus.

While this new virus needs to be monitored it does not seem to have the potential to change things in China, however if the virus is more deadly than what we think this will not be the first time that a disease changed the way a society worked.

The black death changed Europe forever and many attribute the black death with the raise of wages in that age because of the lack of skilled labour available, if this virus becomes a plague it will definitely change China forever and the government will crumble but that is a horrible scenario to think about.

The bigger picture is, if they don't help, they can become the next victims. The bigger picture is, they help because they can also be affected. See, let's just say potentially, the virus is restricted to only Chinese people. Would you think that other countries would willingly help? Sure, some researchers would, since it's they're passion and all, but other countries and their government probably would not extend their hands by too much. Why? Because, they wouldn't be affected. Whether they help or not, no big effect could come from doing either, and by process of determining which is much more efficient, not helping would be one now won't it?

There's also the idea of social relations of China with other countries, with the audacity of some of their citizens to act like they own foreign countries. Like it's their own backyard or something. With that kind of attitude, most people would be unwilling to help imo.

Global peace as people would want it might be a mirage. In social science, the human relationship is prone to lead to some conflict from time to time, as far as there is interactions and competition.
Anyway, for issues of health, it is nice to see world leaders and countries being involved and supportive to safe human lifes. This have been the practice for long time when human society is rampaged by virus or disease, Ebola took was another in the recent past.

I doubt that we in our age could ever see something crazy to change or even maybe ever in history of mankind, but I really wish the general governmental system would change one day. I am talking about a whole world country with just speakers of "nations" or maybe people in different places picking representatives.

I do not mean like a general one nation rule, but I mean something like European union of which all of them have some sort of president of their own, yet they are acting like a one nation against others, we could have a European union system for all of the world where people everywhere could go anywhere and business everywhere could work with anywhere etc etc where it would be better for both economy and the people. It would also incentives other places to help lesser poor places as well.

Global peace?
Have you seen the few videos and news that leak outside the great chinse censorship wall?

People are barricading their communities and beating up strangers that dare to enter, a guy that had a car with numbers from the Hubei province was hunted down by the whole town and almost lynched by the people in a town 400 miles away.

A crisis doesn't bring people together, just politicians exchanging handshakes and fighting for more votes, in reality, everything that is ugly in humans comes to the surface amplified by fear.  That's why you get the lootings, the arsons, the thefts during these times, that's why people get even more separated and communities are more isolated and fearful of strangers. Just think about it, when are you more friendly with your neighbors when you've just hit the jackpot and you're healthy or when you suffer from a cold and just lost your job?

In my town, I think we have less than 0.1% asians and they are not even chinese, most are from Philipines and Vietnam but you would have to see the look on people's faces when they see one of them in a hyper store. Global peace my ..!

No. It's more like the world found a common enemy, and so, temporarily made an alliance to counter that enemy. It's the usual plot where as long as a danger of sorts that a single country could not tackle alone, other countries would come and help to the rescue because they know. They know that if they didn't help, they might be next. Once the danger is gone, they'd probably be at each other next afterward. You should also note that a lot of people in the world are selfish. The Chinese community would probably be hit by a lot, and by a lot, I mean a LOT, of criticism, judgment and the like from other countries, especially those people whose families have been affected by the nCov virus.

Countries are bound to stand together in the face of adversities and this happening does not erase the fact that they are still having some form of antagonistic moves against each other. Just like human beings, except you are at war with someone, you will only want to see him dead when you know that it would give you an opportunity to win but not when you have disagreements. At the same time, most of these countries are not extending the helping hand to China because they love them, but doing it to protect themselves from being caught in the cross fire or risk being infected by the same should they not contribute to its defeat.

Depends on how sustainable the global peace will be in the world and its current order. Global peace is unlikely in a world that doesn't really know its real CREATOR nor submit to HIS true rules & teachings. I think there should be boundaries in a lawless and confused world else "bad things" will spread quickly and we end up destroying the world/ourselves.

In fact, in the context of the spread of coronavirus, help can even be detrimental. In China, there are enough doctors, medicines, and hospitals (if not, they can build it in 10 days). But airplanes that deliver cargo from other countries can, on the contrary, play the role of a virus carrier when flying from China.

I think some people may call me crazy here but how did this corona virus came? I don't believe in their stories. What about if this virus was created manually and they have already antidote for it in order to gain control on the situation and don't end up fatal? What about if they were discussion around it for dozen times and now decided that they have everything under control and it's time to create money?
Of course other countries will to get rid of additional troubles and may turn into this war against virus but after all a lot of money is earned, this is legitimate money laundering.
I appreciate everyone's opinion but personally I think this way.

For the outsiders, it looks really funny because you didn't go through the hardship that all these people are facing. What I know is only one person from a family is allowed to go out to buy daily needs for a couple of hours in a day or two. Rest all the time people need to stay at home with fear. You only worried about countries' images but forgotten people's life.

The number of people infected from SARS was quite less but now it is many folds higher. Currently, around 44K and even with your 3%, the total number of people dead is more than SARS already.

It is really funny looking and observing how countries power-trip each other. It is really stupid to see people being fooled with the political strategy the oligarchs are doing.

Novel Coronavirus (NCov) doesn't really have a motality rate than SARS. The chance of survival really is big. The survival rate was actually 97% in the accurate news. 3% of the diagnosed was dead but that is a really small percentage. I find it really bad for people since they panicked in this virus. The Chinese government did its part with this, as well. It's just that the people are spreading fake news to ruin the image of China. IMO

Firstly, who told you that coronovirus had a bigger mortality rate than SARS? That just misinformation.

Secondly, I think it's too quick to judge based off what the media tells us. Just because there seems to be co-operation between China and the US and other countries doesn't mean that internally, these countries may actually be in conflict.

Look beneath the surface of what you're told.

If the authoritarian government of China is unable to control this epidemic, then they're going to crumble. The only reason that their in power as of right now is because of the massive control of the government in everyones everyday life. The podcast I was listening to (The Journal) goes into this, talking about how the Chinese government spys on their own people every single day.

If you go to buy a train ticket -- you need to show ID.
If you go to the pharmacy -- you need to show ID
If you go to the airport -- you need to show ID.
and so on and so forth.

Everytime you show ID, all of this is noted down and reported back to the Chinese government so they're able to track every single location that people are to. Plus, they're using facial recognition camera to close the gaps between places that you dont need to show ID to go to. The Chinese government knows every single thing about every single person, they're monitored all the time. The difference about this happening in America and China is that the Chinese don't see it as as much of an issue as the Americans do. The Chinese people believe that's pretty much part of their life (I suppose you could argue that some Americans think this as well) and that they're protecting one another by being watched all the time.

China is using this as a tool to track down who has the coronavirus, who may have it, and so on and so forth. It's helping them so far and public support is going to stay high for doing this. But if tons and tons of people begin to die, and the massive government of China is unable to do anything to help them -- it's going to undermine their rule massively.

Countries can be helping to deal with the outbreak for entirely selfish reasons - it's not in their interest to see the virus spread further, they are not immune from it, so if left unchecked, the disease would eventually come to them. Plus its a relatively low cost for someone like the US to send aid to other countries, so why not do this?

The history knows other example of different countries uniting for a common cause, like how countries fought together in the world wars, but it's all fleeting, later they turn on each other very quickly. No one will learn any eye-opening lesson from this outbreak, countries will return to screwing each other as soon as the virus is dealt with.

Global peace is what we do hope for and to think that not all countries are enemies to each other and in times like this where epidemic do rise its just normal
for them to helping hands.What for? of course it will have some several purpose, showing humanitarian concern and also these countries do foresee that they should
make action or do help so that it wont spread furthermore because if it does then they would think up about its global effect.Theres no time to be selfish on anyways
because it would just cost lives even more.

If this happens on a country where thise developed nations have no profits then they might get less support than this one so it all happening or future benefits from China politically,IMHO.

And also they don't want to have that virus on their country so others were helping to cure this disease just to save their country.

If this thing spreads and mutates to really become deadly, there's going to be a worldwide panic, not peace. Now it's still not very deadly with less than 1000 people dead worldwide. A similar number of people die every year from simple flu and much more commit suicide every year and nobody cares but when a virus kills them it's suddenly a big deal.

I saw Chinese news saying that when the news hit people were storming pharmacies everywhere buying face masks and supplies. Pharmaceutical companies must be making millions on this virus.