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legendary
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June 07, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
#17
How about setting a MIN coin usage ?!

We could set a minimum coin usage, ie you can't use any of your bitcoins if you don't move at least 1000BTC
That's an improvement as it avoids de facto the blockchain dust
edd
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June 07, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
#16
I am not sure whether it is already discussed.

Is it ok to set a max coinage (5 - 10 years), so coins that are were not spent for specific can be invalidated.

and, to distribute these coins through mining rewards (throughout for next few years).

So that, no coins were ever lost. Smiley


"Dear, it's finally time to retire and spend some of those bitcoins on that Casascius gold bar you bought back in 2012."

"You're right, honey! Let me just import them into our active wallet... Oh no!"

"What's wrong?"

"The coins expired!"

"When?"

"Yesterday."
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:57:36 PM
#15
How would you feel if you wanted to buy something and the store refused to take your money because it was old and wrinkley? Or, the money police took it away from you and gave its value in new money to someone else?
Absolutely
Same for the gold you're keeping somewhere hidden
Same for your jewelry you never wear
hero member
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June 07, 2013, 01:55:29 PM
#14
How would you feel if you wanted to buy something and the store refused to take your money because it was old and wrinkley? Or, the money police took it away from you and gave its value in new money to someone else?
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:30:09 PM
#13
How do so many people come up with this ridiculous notion independently from each other?  Cheesy

@OP don't mind them and me. It's just that this must be the most asked question on the forums and there have been heated debates when people really couldn't be convinced it would be ridiculous to implement this so some people are fed up with it Smiley

It's called the "I missed the early adopter train" syndrome.

Which is BS, as everybody with brains know.

Just buy and be grateful you were able to know about BTC so early Wink
So those people would want to kill the assets of early-early-adopters?
Possible
Highly possible indeed
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
#12
How do so many people come up with this ridiculous notion independently from each other?  Cheesy

@OP don't mind them and me. It's just that this must be the most asked question on the forums and there have been heated debates when people really couldn't be convinced it would be ridiculous to implement this so some people are fed up with it Smiley

It's called the "I missed the early adopter train" syndrome.

Which is BS, as everybody with brains know.

Just buy and be grateful you were able to know about BTC so early Wink
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:25:56 PM
#11
The thing is I don't get why some people need to add the "forget about your coins if you hoard them" "feature"
WHY?
Because lost coins are a bad thing? How is it bad? It even makes the remaining ones more valuable


Who would do that?
Probably no one.
For what purpose?
The only reason for such a feature to exist is so that anyone who brings it up could be encouraged to use it themselves instead of arguing about it.
I'm sure if such a possiblity is introduced they would be whining about why it is not obligatory
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:24:24 PM
#10
Who would do that?
Probably no one.
For what purpose?
The only reason for such a feature to exist is so that anyone who brings it up could be encouraged to use it themselves instead of arguing about it.
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:16:40 PM
#9
How do so many people come up with this ridiculous notion independently from each other?  Cheesy

@OP don't mind them and me. It's just that this must be the most asked question on the forums and there have been heated debates when people really couldn't be convinced it would be ridiculous to implement this so some people are fed up with it Smiley
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 01:13:32 PM
#8
Maybe there should be an optional opcode that allows an output to be claimed by a miner on or after block n.

That way anybody who is worried about this can store their own funds in such an address without forcing it on everbody else.
Who would do that? For what purpose?
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
#7
Maybe there should be an optional opcode that allows an output to be claimed by a miner on or after block n.

That way anybody who is worried about this can store their own funds in such an address without forcing it on everbody else.
sr. member
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@_vjy
June 07, 2013, 04:05:03 AM
#6
thanks, I will check those threads.

"max coin age", no results. Sad
sr. member
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June 07, 2013, 03:57:23 AM
#5
Yes, it's been discussed before. Besides jackjack's results I also found:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48851.10
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lost-coins-and-wallet-expiration-solution-82847
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/grand-unified-solution-to-lost-coins-hoarding-deflation-speculation-175688

In short, most people, including myself, think that there is no such problem. If coins are lost, then the total amount in circulation may be significantly lower than 21 million but there will still be quadrillions of satoshis in circulation.

There will never be the consensus to allow such a fundamental change.
legendary
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legendary
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June 07, 2013, 03:53:15 AM
#3
Bitcoin as it is does not need such a rule - I'm pretty sure that the loss of coins can be handled well already.

But if you design an alt coin (do we have enough already?) you might add this as one of its rules.
I don't know whether it would really have a positive effect - it would make those "lost" coins available again, but there might be some folks who put coins in a cold storage wallet as savings, and they might not be happy to find that their coins have been given to someone else.
Of course, people adopting such a coin would know that they need to touch (move) their coins once in a while to keep them, so it might not be a big problem after all.

Onkel Paul
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 03:51:39 AM
#2
AGAIN??
Come on guys, stop stealing money from people keeping it in their vault!
Yes it has been discussed a thousand times, a least once every two months, did you search?
sr. member
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@_vjy
June 07, 2013, 03:46:09 AM
#1
I am not sure whether it is already discussed.

Is it ok to set a max coinage (5 - 10 years), so coins that are were not spent for specific can be invalidated.

and, to distribute these coins through mining rewards (throughout for next few years).

So that, no coins were ever lost. Smiley
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