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legendary
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November 16, 2017, 09:19:51 AM
#25
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?
you can do this on testnet.
Wait what the heck. NO.
I don't think fake transaction would through miners because every transaction node you've made would be relayed on by the miners so that they can verify which is valid. It sounds rather suspicious to make those kind of transactions because you are like trying to deceive or trick someone with some kind of fake transaction sir, I don't meant any offense sir.
Miners validate all transactions but the nodes wouldn't have relayed an invalid transaction in the first place. Mining isn't verifying transactions, strictly speaking. Please look your facts up before spamming.
You could theoretically create a Transaction with a extremely low fee. This TX will show up in the mempools (and therefore also on block explorers).
Therefore you can create a transaction which will be shown online.. but never will go through because no miner will include your transaction into a block.
It really depends on what is your definition of low. If the fee is 100satoshi/KB, it would almost certainly not show up anywhere other than your own wallet. Saying that miners won't include it into their block is also overgeneralisation. Of course they can include it, why not?
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2509
November 15, 2017, 03:54:53 AM
#24
i dont want to scam anyone ffs i just wanted to know if it was possible i dont even care how i just wanted to know if thats somthing possible

You could theoretically create a Transaction with a extremely low fee. This TX will show up in the mempools (and therefore also on block explorers).
Therefore you can create a transaction which will be shown online.. but never will go through because no miner will include your transaction into a block.
But you can't really make use of this. Because Transactions/deposits to any site will only be credited with 1+ confirmation.
A 0 Confirmation transaction is nowhere seen as a payments. Its like a "wish of a payment". Only after the confirmation (including into a block) this payment is being processed.

And to awnser your question once for all.. No, its not possible to create "fake transaction" as you are imagining.
sr. member
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Merit: 305
November 15, 2017, 12:50:26 AM
#23
i dont care if it gets saved in the blockchain i just want it to count like if i send it to an adress it will show up but because its fake it will just disappier because its invalid

This is not possible.
This is possible. Just define what do you mean by "it will show up"
If it means "it is visible on some block-explorer site" it is definitely possible.

Take this one for example:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ba8a7fb13a507a4987bfa267a6f12defc0d30216fdf6664cdc06cc4c8de71a84
This is fake transaction.
full member
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Merit: 120
November 15, 2017, 12:36:23 AM
#22
I don't think fake transaction would through miners because every transaction node you've made would be relayed on by the miners so that they can verify which is valid. It sounds rather suspicious to make those kind of transactions because you are like trying to deceive or trick someone with some kind of fake transaction sir, I don't meant any offense sir.
sr. member
Activity: 2506
Merit: 368
November 14, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
#21
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

People like you are the reason we need a trustless payment system like Bitcoin. The sense of BTC is to not having to trust someone in order to get a payment done.
If it would be possible to create a "fake transaction" which shows up.. but then does not "go through".. you would need trust to recieve payments.
So.. if you want to to scam people write an email telling them you send them 1 Million $ via mail if they send you 100 bucks via sepa,...
But don't even try to trick someone like this with btc payments. It just doesn't work.
I think printing money from your home printer is more of a "business" which suites you..

i dont want to scam anyone ffs i just wanted to know if it was possible i dont even care how i just wanted to know if thats somthing possible
Anyway, why do you have to ask such fake transactions then? It wouldn't be appropriate if someone read it though because it almost sounds like a scam is going to happen. I guess you should start to write with the right question about of this topic like, "Is there a way that someone could create a fake transactions?" or "Is it possible that someone could've just send you a fake transactions number?" Just something like that you know, it's just my opinion.
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 14, 2017, 02:31:41 PM
#20
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

People like you are the reason we need a trustless payment system like Bitcoin. The sense of BTC is to not having to trust someone in order to get a payment done.
If it would be possible to create a "fake transaction" which shows up.. but then does not "go through".. you would need trust to recieve payments.
So.. if you want to to scam people write an email telling them you send them 1 Million $ via mail if they send you 100 bucks via sepa,...
But don't even try to trick someone like this with btc payments. It just doesn't work.
I think printing money from your home printer is more of a "business" which suites you..

i dont want to scam anyone ffs i just wanted to know if it was possible i dont even care how i just wanted to know if thats somthing possible
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2509
November 14, 2017, 01:28:26 PM
#19
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

People like you are the reason we need a trustless payment system like Bitcoin. The sense of BTC is to not having to trust someone in order to get a payment done.
If it would be possible to create a "fake transaction" which shows up.. but then does not "go through".. you would need trust to recieve payments.
So.. if you want to to scam people write an email telling them you send them 1 Million $ via mail if they send you 100 bucks via sepa,...
But don't even try to trick someone like this with btc payments. It just doesn't work.
I think printing money from your home printer is more of a "business" which suites you..
member
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Merit: 10
November 13, 2017, 11:28:03 AM
#18
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?
you can do this on testnet.
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 4945
November 11, 2017, 06:16:45 AM
#17
i dont care if it gets saved in the blockchain i just want it to count like if i send it to an adress it will show up but because its fake it will just disappier because its invalid

This is not possible.

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" and "show up" is a transaction that miners can confirm.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network" and will not "show up".

The process of "showing up" is identical to the process of being allowed to confirm. So, any transaction that is invalid enough that it can't "confirm" is also invalid enough that it can't "show up".

That is how bitcoin works.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
November 11, 2017, 05:48:21 AM
#16
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.

but i need it to go the the normal blockchain

Then you need it to confirm.

If it is in the blockchain, then it is confirmed.  If it is not in the blockchain, then it is not confirmed.

That's what the word "confirm" means.

so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .
Go through where?
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .

Go through where?

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" is a transaction that miners can confirm.  There is no way to guarantee that a miner won't confirm it.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network".  That is how bitcoin works.

You'll need to explain what you are trying to do. It might not be possible.


i dont care if it gets saved in the blockchain i just want it to count like if i send it to an adress it will show up but because its fake it will just disappier because its invalid
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
November 10, 2017, 07:04:09 PM
#15
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?

A valid transaction with zero transaction fee will probably sit around in the mempool for a long time. I don't think there's any way to guarantee that it won't get confirmed eventually (last 30 days mempool, see Oct 26).

what i an saying is that it will send fake btc and it wont get confirmed because they are fake if it gets confirmed idc but they proboly wont
full member
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Merit: 100
November 10, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
#14
Give us more idea on what you will use this.

It smells bad.
member
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Merit: 10
November 10, 2017, 01:02:03 PM
#13
Enlighten me ,for what it's transace need? Actually sounds like cheating people.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 26
November 10, 2017, 12:45:15 PM
#12
Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate

A bit of cross-talk here. As user DannyHamilton has explained, it is not possible for a "fake transaction" to be confirmed on the blockchain. That's the whole purpose of the blockchain and that is precisely why it is designed the way it is - so that fake, invalid, fraudulent, malformed, double-spend and any other kind of transaction, except a valid Bitcoin transaction, cannot be added into the blockchain.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
November 10, 2017, 12:40:01 PM
#11
Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate

i am not planing on scamming anyone
sr. member
Activity: 910
Merit: 263
November 10, 2017, 12:06:24 PM
#10
Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 4945
November 10, 2017, 11:57:45 AM
#9
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.

but i need it to go the the normal blockchain

Then you need it to confirm.

If it is in the blockchain, then it is confirmed.  If it is not in the blockchain, then it is not confirmed.

That's what the word "confirm" means.

so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .
Go through where?
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .

Go through where?

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" is a transaction that miners can confirm.  There is no way to guarantee that a miner won't confirm it.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network".  That is how bitcoin works.

You'll need to explain what you are trying to do. It might not be possible.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 26
November 10, 2017, 11:46:50 AM
#8
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?

A valid transaction with zero transaction fee will probably sit around in the mempool for a long time. I don't think there's any way to guarantee that it won't get confirmed eventually (last 30 days mempool, see Oct 26).
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
November 10, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
#7
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
November 10, 2017, 11:31:32 AM
#6
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Define fake.
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