Topic: How can the U.S. fix Detroit? (Read 3136 times)
Didn't think you could extend the deadline
Well looks like its still doomed though
We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.
Stop voting for the democrats.
Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia?
I don't know about that. I know the democrats and the unions had a free ride for their ultimate Utopia for the past 50 years. It was called Detroit. We can all see the result. It is basic History 101.
I think trying to pin the failure of Detroit singularly on the Democrats is a case of over-simplification. There were far more factors that lead to the downfall of Detroit than the party in power, or the role of unions. (Two groups I am not fans of, btw... I'm not defending them.)
Clearly, correlation = causation. Disregard all the other factors, we've cracked the code! With almost a handful of data points, I don't know how someone hasn't awarded you a Nobel prize for economics yet.
Fix Detroit? Does it really needs to be fixed?
At this point, I'd have to say evacuate all the remaining citizens, scatter them around the country, send in robots to do the dirty and dangerous work of bringing all the infrastructure up to par and keeping out anyone who wants to go in and make trouble, create DetroitCoin to pay off the debt (LOL, right?), wait ten years until everybody kinda forgets what was so wrong with Detroit in the first place, and then sell off all the properties to the highest bidder and let Detroit start over.
Good idea. But, it would be easier simply to move to an area about 10 or 20 miles away, and start over. Leave Detroit kinda like a Michigan "Chernobyl" so that we all remember the kind of meltdown that happens when Democrats get too much control.
We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.
Stop voting for the democrats.
Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia?
I don't know about that. I know the democrats and the unions had a free ride for their ultimate Utopia for the past 50 years. It was called Detroit. We can all see the result. It is basic History 101.
I think trying to pin the failure of Detroit singularly on the Democrats is a case of over-simplification. There were far more factors that lead to the downfall of Detroit than the party in power, or the role of unions. (Two groups I am not fans of, btw... I'm not defending them.)
At this point, I'd have to say evacuate all the remaining citizens, scatter them around the country, send in robots to do the dirty and dangerous work of bringing all the infrastructure up to par and keeping out anyone who wants to go in and make trouble, create DetroitCoin to pay off the debt (LOL, right?), wait ten years until everybody kinda forgets what was so wrong with Detroit in the first place, and then sell off all the properties to the highest bidder and let Detroit start over.
doesnt look like the goverment is going to do anything. People are though. Kids with not much money but drive and ability are going into detroit and getting dirt cheap property which they fix up and then people with more money see it and want it. A cycle of gentrification we have seen time and again.
I was just wondering about neighborhoods that are totally without infrastructure in detroit. If I have no water or power or fire department supplied do I still have to pay taxes? My guess is yes, because govt.=pigs, but if these people have no amenities usually paid by taxes, why bother?
USA wants tyhier people to do all the dirty work, unpaid labour, interns etc. but they still want to gouge them for the tax. no wonder that country is crumbling.
I was just wondering about neighborhoods that are totally without infrastructure in detroit. If I have no water or power or fire department supplied do I still have to pay taxes? My guess is yes, because govt.=pigs, but if these people have no amenities usually paid by taxes, why bother?
USA wants tyhier people to do all the dirty work, unpaid labour, interns etc. but they still want to gouge them for the tax. no wonder that country is crumbling.
We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.
Stop voting for the democrats.
Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia?
I don't know about that. I know the democrats and the unions had a free ride for their ultimate Utopia for the past 50 years. It was called Detroit. We can all see the result. It is basic History 101.
I think trying to pin the failure of Detroit singularly on the Democrats is a case of over-simplification. There were far more factors that lead to the downfall of Detroit than the party in power, or the role of unions. (Two groups I am not fans of, btw... I'm not defending them.)
Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.
Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.
That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.
Public library is fun at times. I relish the though of stopping by there once in awhile. When I get there, I suddenly realize, what in the world am I doing in a stupid place like this? The point? All taxes are stealing from the people.
You want public library? You pay. You want police protection? You pay. I don't want them and a whole bunch of other things and regulations? I don't pay. Get your hand out of my pocket. I'll donate when I think it is a worthy cause.
If I need socializing, I'll get over to the bar or to church, where they operate on donations... or you don't get very far in.
Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.
Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.
That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.
sell it to Chinese
But only if they take it with them.
Yes just like Bitcoin. Buy it low and when the Chinese come in you'll be rich!
http://youtu.be/2B_uusKGG0U?t=38s
But only if you sell it high, before the Chinese get out!
sell it to Chinese
But only if they take it with them.
Yes just like Bitcoin. Buy it low and when the Chinese come in you'll be rich!
http://youtu.be/2B_uusKGG0U?t=38s
sell it to Chinese
But only if they take it with them.
sell it to Chinese
If I recall these $1 homes come with a catch: there's decades of taxes levied on these abandoned homes and nobody is going to pay $50K in unpaid taxes when there is cheaper real estate out there.
Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.
Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.
That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.
Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.
Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.
We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.
Stop voting for the democrats.
Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia?
Nobody equated the GOP with Utopia.
Can you name one city controlled by Republicans for 50 years that is as big a shithole as Detroit?
No, you can't. So please take your asinine strawman and shove it.
People would much rather live in Orange County than Detroit. And it's not just because of the weather, as demonstrated by deep red Idaho and Montana's relative prosperity and much higher quality of life.
You need to grow up and face the indisputable fact that the Democrat Oligarch's Free Shit Army has occupied Detroit and completely ruined it.
Again, the way to fix Detroit is to start from scratch. In order: Drop all taxes; Require an armed populace when not on their own personal property; Get rid of the police and most of the laws that limit people from starting and running a business, including new construction laws.
After Detroit gets back up to speed, re-start the taxes... in a small way at first. Gradually move in the controls as before.
Of course, expect the same thing to happen all over again. But at least you have the solution, now.
Learn from it.
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