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Topic: How Capitalism defeated socialism? - page 3. (Read 453 times)

legendary
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April 22, 2022, 03:07:34 AM
#8
The verdict is in, and contrary to what socialists say, capitalism, with all its warts, is the preferred economic system to bring the masses out of poverty and to make them productive citizens in our country and in countries around the world. Remember this: Capitalism rewards merit, socialism rewards mediocrity. I mean, socialism talking about equality but it is just a beautiful lie , and capitalism is an ugly truth !

It hasn't. In most countries of the world, the State plays an important role due to the weight of the public sector. Obviously, Hong Kong is not the same as France, but if we look at the larger countries we see that they are far from being purely capitalist. The EU is quite social democratic, with nuances depending on the country, but it cannot be called purely capitalist by far. China, Russia, let us forget. USA with Biden and Canada with Trudeau are more socialist and less capitalist than before, etc.

If we got capitalism with strong resets and some level of equality, there'd be less of an argument against it - but that could be closer to socialism.

If we were to do a reset and distribute the wealth absolutely equally, it would not be long before there would be rich and poor again, so we would continue with the same song that the rich have privileges and unfair advantages and that it is necessary to distribute.
hero member
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April 22, 2022, 02:47:01 AM
#7
Worlds definitely not socialist anymore. I think it’s more or less economic loving space but with more individual approach. If we start with the bottom aspects then today me or you our friends everyone would always try to focus on the incomes and how much money they have in the bank accounts. Same goes for a trader, broker, big institute and corporations. Everyone is trying to achieve that stability. That’s more capitalistic approach for sure.
I also believe it’s nothing wrong. The Deens you is only for the sake of presence of humanity. That’s all.
full member
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April 22, 2022, 02:42:58 AM
#6
The verdict is in, and contrary to what socialists say, capitalism, with all its warts, is the preferred economic system to bring the masses out of poverty and to make them productive citizens in our country and in countries around the world. Remember this: Capitalism rewards merit, socialism rewards mediocrity. I mean, socialism talking about equality but it is just a beautiful lie , and capitalism is an ugly truth !
I think seeing and placing the position of each thought in each period has its good and bad points, so don't look at and evaluate the problem only in one direction. The reality of today's competitive division is not a new thing. Through the ages, society has still functioned from infancy to prosperity and then collapse. I live in a socialist country, and I am aware of the shortcomings of the current operating system, but when I look at other countries, I am proud and grateful to them for bringing a life like the present.
legendary
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Merit: 1965
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April 22, 2022, 02:15:39 AM
#5
I am not a Socialists ...and I will probably never be one, but I can tell you one thing.... Capitalism is not perfect in any way. Take this example for instance... In some Capitalist countries you will find that the Mega farmers will start to buy out the smaller farms and they will totally dominate the whole agriculture scene or parts of it. (They will then use that power as leverage to manipulate food prices)

The gap between the Super Rich and the poor are widening and the Middle Class are being wiped out. Now you have the situation where millions of people are living in absolute poverty and a few individuals own most of the land and wealth of the country. How can this be better than a more equal distribution of wealth?

Yes I know Super Rich people are creating jobs and they pay most of the taxes, but monopolies and total domination of certain industries are bad for a country. (Price manipulation and no competition create opportunities for misuse and over pricing)  Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 21, 2022, 05:26:54 PM
#4
In the year 2022, it seems many believe a person who works very hard and makes good financial decisions.

Should enjoy the same level of success as someone who doesn't work and makes poor financial decisions.

This appears to be the definition of "equality" most believe in.

They believe Elon Musk should enjoy the same degree of wealth and success as a homeless drug addict living on the streets. And that people should not be rewarded for working harder, making better decisions and taking bigger risks.

I don't understand how that is supposed to work in the real world but people can think whatever they like
legendary
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Merit: 1864
April 21, 2022, 03:27:46 PM
#3
The verdict is in, and contrary to what socialists say, capitalism, with all its warts, is the preferred economic system to bring the masses out of poverty and to make them productive citizens in our country and in countries around the world. Remember this: Capitalism rewards merit, socialism rewards mediocrity. I mean, socialism talking about equality but it is just a beautiful lie , and capitalism is an ugly truth !

The key problem is that the USSR and its henchmen perverted the essence of socialism, and "slipped" shit on the population instead of a croissant. Instead of equality - a "guaranteed" stable low standard of living, instead of legality - a set of restrictions, instead of prospects - a dull existence. And all this was called "socialism", although it is communist-Nazism-totalitarianism with an admixture of red terror and anti-human concepts, under the beautiful words of propaganda. So capitalism did not defeat socialism. Capitalism, as a more pragmatic trend, took and in some countries combined these two concepts!
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April 21, 2022, 02:56:19 PM
#2
A lot of historians refer to capitalism producing poverty by enforcing things like hard land ownership and inheritible assets (for European law).

If we got capitalism with strong resets and some level of equality, there'd be less of an argument against it - but that could be closer to socialism.
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 21, 2022, 02:39:34 PM
#1
The verdict is in, and contrary to what socialists say, capitalism, with all its warts, is the preferred economic system to bring the masses out of poverty and to make them productive citizens in our country and in countries around the world. Remember this: Capitalism rewards merit, socialism rewards mediocrity. I mean, socialism talking about equality but it is just a beautiful lie , and capitalism is an ugly truth !
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