How diverse is your crypto portfolio?

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 20, 2024, 11:35:27 AM

When trying out to build your own portfolio then we do know that having the more the better but the cons of this one is that you would really be needing tons of funds
for you to at least on hodling a significant hold of those coins which are really that intended to be hold up until the next bull run on which means that if your capital or funds or investment would really be just that enough on few projects like 3-5 maximum but you have ended up on having 7 or more then you would really be needing to divide it out equally or you would really be that somewhat bias
into the project which you do like the most.

This is why i do prefer on having 3-4 coins which is really that having into my port on which it is really that something into those numbers but actually it would really be just that depending
into someones preference since not all would really be having that kind of fund or budget allocation into those project for you to put on.
There are really people who are thinking up on having those kind of assurance at least.

Even large capital and the ability to invest in many projects do not guarantee success. Most of these projects may not take off or may give an uninteresting percentage of growth. It is better to have a smaller portfolio, but consisting of assets that you have analyzed in detail and have good reason to believe will show significant growth. So that your investment will definitely pay off.

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Quote from: snowpega on January 20, 2024, 11:01:21 AM

if you are thinking of diversifying your portfolio and have a good amount to invest in crypto currency. So, in my opinion, you should invest 90% of your amount in bitcoin and the remaining 10% you should invest in Altcoin. Bitcoin has less risk on your investment and altcoins have high risk on you investment that why suggesting to invest big cap in bitcoin and less cap in altcoin

while investing in altcoins try to diversify you remaining 10% in different altcoins because if one will not perfome well anothe rwill perfome well and retun you a good amount of profit. DYOR

Diversification of a cryptocurrency portfolio is not about having a good fund for investment. I believe what is important before any crypto enthusiast will think about diversification is to first have the knowledge and capacity to manage two, or more cryptos.
If have good capital and don't have the right knowledge, the portfolio will collapse.

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Quote from: R100K-Martin-Lunger on December 20, 2023, 09:32:37 AM

Hi guys!
Just wanted to know how many cryptocurrencies you're invested in? And with what percentage of your portfolio (No need to mention the amounts involved, if you don't want to). Just want to get a general sense of how everyone's diversifying their crypto assets.

Portfolio is part of the total assets that we collect. Both from investment and trading results. Of course, currently the picture is very positive, because crypto conditions are improving. But this condition is if they bought the coins in the past and held them. But I myself am very minimal, because I save dollars. Of course this is not good for investment.

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Quote from: snowpega on January 20, 2024, 11:01:21 AM

if you are thinking of diversifying your portfolio and have a good amount to invest in crypto currency. So, in my opinion, you should invest 90% of your amount in bitcoin and the remaining 10% you should invest in Altcoin. Bitcoin has less risk on your investment and altcoins have high risk on you investment that why suggesting to invest big cap in bitcoin and less cap in altcoin

while investing in altcoins try to diversify you remaining 10% in different altcoins because if one will not perfome well anothe rwill perfome well and retun you a good amount of profit. DYOR

Though it's understandable that most part of your capital should be invested in Bitcoin, I don't think one should have all their capital engaged because the cryptocurrency market is highly volatile and unpredictable and you can't expect the market to always rise and never go down. So, I believe one should always have some part of their capital in liquid assets so that they can in case they see an opportunity in the market, they can buy certain cryptocurrencies with it.

That's why, I think one should have at least 60% of their capital in Bitcoin, 20% in altcoins being spread in multiple altcoins from the top and trusted ones, and 20% should be kept in liquid assets such as USDT and other stablecoins that can be used to buy either Bitcoin or altcoins when there are better opportunities.

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60 for investing and 40 for cash, but because I'm not married so currently it's 70 for investing and 30 for cash, the percentage will decrease when I have more dependents.
so for now I'm maximizing it first.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 17, 2024, 12:14:47 PM

Diversify as much as possible because you wont really be getting scared on the time that you would really be able to make money and lose money with your investment.
You do know that you do have some back up plans and having that chance of recovery if one of those investment failed.

Diversification makes sense when the assets you choose are deeply understood by yourself and you keep an eye on them constantly. Other way you can choose a lot of assets which don't deserve to be invetsed in. In that case you risk to fail in most of your investments and the recovery would take much more time. Because diversification doesn't mean that one of your assets could be unfortunate while the rest, the most of them are profitable. It could be the opposite, and only one would be profitable while the rest would be disastrous.

When trying out to build your own portfolio then we do know that having the more the better but the cons of this one is that you would really be needing tons of funds
for you to at least on hodling a significant hold of those coins which are really that intended to be hold up until the next bull run on which means that if your capital or funds or investment would really be just that enough on few projects like 3-5 maximum but you have ended up on having 7 or more then you would really be needing to divide it out equally or you would really be that somewhat bias
into the project which you do like the most.

This is why i do prefer on having 3-4 coins which is really that having into my port on which it is really that something into those numbers but actually it would really be just that depending
into someones preference since not all would really be having that kind of fund or budget allocation into those project for you to put on.
There are really people who are thinking up on having those kind of assurance at least.

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if you are thinking of diversifying your portfolio and have a good amount to invest in crypto currency. So, in my opinion, you should invest 90% of your amount in bitcoin and the remaining 10% you should invest in Altcoin. Bitcoin has less risk on your investment and altcoins have high risk on you investment that why suggesting to invest big cap in bitcoin and less cap in altcoin

while investing in altcoins try to diversify you remaining 10% in different altcoins because if one will not perfome well anothe rwill perfome well and retun you a good amount of profit. DYOR

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 17, 2024, 12:14:47 PM

Diversify as much as possible because you wont really be getting scared on the time that you would really be able to make money and lose money with your investment.
You do know that you do have some back up plans and having that chance of recovery if one of those investment failed.

Diversification makes sense when the assets you choose are deeply understood by yourself and you keep an eye on them constantly. Other way you can choose a lot of assets which don't deserve to be invetsed in. In that case you risk to fail in most of your investments and the recovery would take much more time. Because diversification doesn't mean that one of your assets could be unfortunate while the rest, the most of them are profitable. It could be the opposite, and only one would be profitable while the rest would be disastrous.

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Quote from: Etranger on January 17, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

Not all altcoins are shitcoins. I believe this is the main point we don't agree on.

Sometimes I get so deep into things I forget it's easier to summary it all and you got it spot on. I think all alts are shit, well, 99.9% anyway. This comes from experience.

Quote from: ajiz138 on January 17, 2024, 12:15:52 PM

This is the portfolio that we have.

70% Bitcoin because I have believed this asset will continue to grow.
25% Other diversified assets Stocks, Gold and a few others.
5$ Fiat, this is only used for daily life and any needs.

People are starting to diversify, starting from bitcoin to other cryptos, but I don't do that and choose other assets in crypto just enough bitcoin.

Mine is almost same as yours but my fiat is bigger. My savings/assets is about 25%, in form of government bond and mutual fund (so practically fiat). Why, because it is guaranteed. If anything happens, I'll get it back. I know government can break promises but it's a low risk for me. Then I have another 25% in long term stock with dividend payments, plus a little bit REIT.

Remember this is before I even knew about BTC. So it used to be 50/50.

Now BTC is 50% almost but slowly going there because DCA. But I would never sell my other stuff because I like the idea of some small protection. What if I get kidnapped and tortured for my BTC? something like that lol

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Quote from: DVlog on January 16, 2024, 01:03:25 PM

Most of my portfolio is on altcoin so i tried to make it as diversified as possible. Investing in a few different categories of altcoin can not make your portfolio diversify because in the end they are all the same. But i tried to keep as much narrative as possible that have never seen a bull run and have the potential to be on the trend in the next bull run. I wanted to keep some tokenized gold, stock and real estate in my portfolio but it will be after the end of this upcoming bull run.

Holding more altcoins is actually much riskier than holding gold, stocks and real estate, but in times like now. Why don't you save Bitcoin? although I also don't forbid you from holding more altcoins in your portfolio as long as you can consider the risks yourself. Because altcoin increases often come later in the market than Bitcoin, it would be better if you have Bitcoin in your portfolio that you can rely on for the rising moments this year. Moreover, there is a possibility that the market will become more aggressive after the halving this year.

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The only way to prevent yourself from huge losses is to diversify your investment, which means do not put all your eggs in a single basket. But it also depends on your amount of capital that you can afford to lose. If you only have a small amount, then just prioritize bitcoin more than any altcoins. Bitcoin alone is good enough, and just diversify when you are already having a huge amount of profits. And when you diversify, DYOR first. Do not fall investing into too good to be true altcoin projects, but invest in the right coins that have great potentials to succeed in the long term.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 17, 2024, 12:36:55 PM

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My suggestion will be to Keep a maximum percentage of BTC, and a nice amount of USDT so that you can buy if the market dumps. and you can choose some altcoins which is more potential.

Such portfolio management is quite safe, because it does not only focus on just one coin.
Bitcoin may be the main one, but having USDT spare money will be very useful when the market suddenly crashes and can buy again at a cheaper price.

I also always apply management strategies like this and for other Altcoins I choose are ETH and some of the top Altcoins that have good development for the future.

And for other allocations, I usually look for some memecoin or new projects that look potentially (but not for the long term) just as a lucky asset alone with an allocation of maybe only 5% or even lower.

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Quote from: R100K-Martin-Lunger on December 20, 2023, 09:32:37 AM

Just want to get a general sense of how everyone's diversifying their crypto assets.

If you are talking about it in general, Bitcoin is the only asset on which we should focus.

But we normally don't do it. We always make ourselves greedy and try to hold some altcoins for bigger returns.

My suggestion will be to Keep a maximum percentage of BTC, and a nice amount of USDT so that you can buy if the market dumps. and you can choose some altcoins which is more potential.

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This is the portfolio that we have.

70% Bitcoin because I have believed this asset will continue to grow.
25% Other diversified assets Stocks, Gold and a few others.
5$ Fiat, this is only used for daily life and any needs.

People are starting to diversify, starting from bitcoin to other cryptos, but I don't do that and choose other assets in crypto just enough bitcoin.

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Bitcoin is the diversification strategy. Everything else is gambling without understanding.

If you choose to invest only in Bitcoin, than what is diversification? Investing in one and only one asset is no diversification at all.

I think, a lot of altcoins are falling towards Bitcoin, especially if we look at them in a long perspective. But a good trader can also profit on that, if he knows how to short. I wouldn't say that everything else except bitcoin is gambling. But it requires a lot of preparation and previous analysis.

Huh?. Bitcoin is a new class of asset. Cryptocurrency, blockchain asset, whatever you wanna call it. If you call yourself an investor, then you already have stocks, real estate, maybe precious metal. Adding Bitcoin is a diversification strategy. Adding 5% of your portfolio to Bitcoin diversifies your portfolio. Adding 5% but inside Bitcoin is 10%, NFT and shit is 90%, that's not diversification that's dilution.

You're talking about trading, which is what I said, gambling without understanding.

So, in your opinion, an investor always has to invest in stocks, real estate and all other assets, which compared to bitcoin in most countries gives you so little interest that you can barely see it? Not to mention it will be eaten by inflation most likely.

I live in Ukraine, we have war here for almost 2 years. How do you think our real estate feels like right now? Is it worth investing when a missile can strike it any time?
Most stocks are not available to buy without 3d party, if you don't have "the right" passport. Moreover, you have to pay a flayer tax on it, because the state isn't really interested in you trying to make for a living. But bitcoin and other crypto give opportunities to make your own, independent investments. Which would be profitable, and by profit I mean more than 8% per year. I don't have time for real estate and precious metal. My "gambling without understanding" gives me a chance to live, while everything else doesn't work at all.

Diversify as much as you could on which you should really be thinking on diverssifying your investment as long you do have the funds that you can invest on on which not all would really be that having that kind of capacity and this is why they would really be missing out this kind of opportunity but for those who do have the money but cant still be able to decide on how they would really be able to diverse out their money
then it would be always best on making some investment or financial research or having those kind of guidelines or having those kind of education on which it would be making you at least
pretty aware on how things should really be that treated up.

Diversify as much as possible because you wont really be getting scared on the time that you would really be able to make money and lose money with your investment.
You do know that you do have some back up plans and having that chance of recovery if one of those investment failed.

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Huh?. Bitcoin is a new class of asset. Cryptocurrency, blockchain asset, whatever you wanna call it. If you call yourself an investor, then you already have stocks, real estate, maybe precious metal. Adding Bitcoin is a diversification strategy. Adding 5% of your portfolio to Bitcoin diversifies your portfolio. Adding 5% but inside Bitcoin is 10%, NFT and shit is 90%, that's not diversification that's dilution.

You're talking about trading, which is what I said, gambling without understanding.

So, in your opinion, an investor always has to invest in stocks, real estate and all other assets, which compared to bitcoin in most countries gives you so little interest that you can barely see it? Not to mention it will be eaten by inflation most likely.

I live in Ukraine, we have war here for almost 2 years. How do you think our real estate feels like right now? Is it worth investing when a missile can strike it any time?
Most stocks are not available to buy without 3d party, if you don't have "the right" passport. Moreover, you have to pay a flayer tax on it, because the state isn't really interested in you trying to make for a living. But bitcoin and other crypto give opportunities to make your own, independent investments. Which would be profitable, and by profit I mean more than 8% per year. I don't have time for real estate and precious metal. My "gambling without understanding" gives me a chance to live, while everything else doesn't work at all.

That's not my opinion, that's how you'll find people who are defined as investors will explain diversification. You can have your opinion, like all altcoin shitcoiners do, go ahead. But it's irresponsible. It's irresponsible to tell people to diversify crypto into BTC and shitcoins. Investing in Bitcoin is already diversification.

You don't diversify in the same asset class. It's like saying oh yes I'm diversified because I buy hotels and houses (it's all property) or I buy Bentley and Porsche and Ferrari, that's not diversification, you've just invested in different stocks of motor companies.

You want to pick Ukraine, war? Do you believe Bitcoin works in war without internet?

You have Ukraine passport right? That's better than my passport and I can buy stocks.

You totally seem to misunderstand me, I'm not telling anyone to invest in stocks and real estate, I'm talking about diversification. My investment is not only Bitcoin, and I think everyone needs to diversify (that DOES NOT MEAN buying shitcoins).

I don't tell anyone to invest or to do something else. It is a personal choice, I don't give any recommendations.

Bitcoin works during war as well, because you can hold it without Internet. And take profit after you get access online.

When there is a war state, you are not able to buy stocks. When it ends, I will be able to do that, sure.

Not all altcoins are shitcoins. I believe this is the main point we don't agree on.

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Quote from: Etranger on January 16, 2024, 12:31:55 PM

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Huh?. Bitcoin is a new class of asset. Cryptocurrency, blockchain asset, whatever you wanna call it. If you call yourself an investor, then you already have stocks, real estate, maybe precious metal. Adding Bitcoin is a diversification strategy. Adding 5% of your portfolio to Bitcoin diversifies your portfolio. Adding 5% but inside Bitcoin is 10%, NFT and shit is 90%, that's not diversification that's dilution.

You're talking about trading, which is what I said, gambling without understanding.

So, in your opinion, an investor always has to invest in stocks, real estate and all other assets, which compared to bitcoin in most countries gives you so little interest that you can barely see it? Not to mention it will be eaten by inflation most likely.

I live in Ukraine, we have war here for almost 2 years. How do you think our real estate feels like right now? Is it worth investing when a missile can strike it any time?
Most stocks are not available to buy without 3d party, if you don't have "the right" passport. Moreover, you have to pay a flayer tax on it, because the state isn't really interested in you trying to make for a living. But bitcoin and other crypto give opportunities to make your own, independent investments. Which would be profitable, and by profit I mean more than 8% per year. I don't have time for real estate and precious metal. My "gambling without understanding" gives me a chance to live, while everything else doesn't work at all.

That's not my opinion, that's how you'll find people who are defined as investors will explain diversification. You can have your opinion, like all altcoin shitcoiners do, go ahead. But it's irresponsible. It's irresponsible to tell people to diversify crypto into BTC and shitcoins. Investing in Bitcoin is already diversification.

You don't diversify in the same asset class. It's like saying oh yes I'm diversified because I buy hotels and houses (it's all property) or I buy Bentley and Porsche and Ferrari, that's not diversification, you've just invested in different stocks of motor companies.

You want to pick Ukraine, war? Do you believe Bitcoin works in war without internet?

You have Ukraine passport right? That's better than my passport and I can buy stocks.

You totally seem to misunderstand me, I'm not telling anyone to invest in stocks and real estate, I'm talking about diversification. My investment is not only Bitcoin, and I think everyone needs to diversify (that DOES NOT MEAN buying shitcoins).

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Most of my portfolio is on altcoin so i tried to make it as diversified as possible. Investing in a few different categories of altcoin can not make your portfolio diversify because in the end they are all the same. But i tried to keep as much narrative as possible that have never seen a bull run and have the potential to be on the trend in the next bull run. I wanted to keep some tokenized gold, stock and real estate in my portfolio but it will be after the end of this upcoming bull run.

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 16, 2024, 05:36:10 AM

Quote from: Etranger on January 15, 2024, 04:51:15 AM

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Bitcoin is the diversification strategy. Everything else is gambling without understanding.

If you choose to invest only in Bitcoin, than what is diversification? Investing in one and only one asset is no diversification at all.

I think, a lot of altcoins are falling towards Bitcoin, especially if we look at them in a long perspective. But a good trader can also profit on that, if he knows how to short. I wouldn't say that everything else except bitcoin is gambling. But it requires a lot of preparation and previous analysis.

Huh?. Bitcoin is a new class of asset. Cryptocurrency, blockchain asset, whatever you wanna call it. If you call yourself an investor, then you already have stocks, real estate, maybe precious metal. Adding Bitcoin is a diversification strategy. Adding 5% of your portfolio to Bitcoin diversifies your portfolio. Adding 5% but inside Bitcoin is 10%, NFT and shit is 90%, that's not diversification that's dilution.

You're talking about trading, which is what I said, gambling without understanding.

So, in your opinion, an investor always has to invest in stocks, real estate and all other assets, which compared to bitcoin in most countries gives you so little interest that you can barely see it? Not to mention it will be eaten by inflation most likely.

I live in Ukraine, we have war here for almost 2 years. How do you think our real estate feels like right now? Is it worth investing when a missile can strike it any time?
Most stocks are not available to buy without 3d party, if you don't have "the right" passport. Moreover, you have to pay a flayer tax on it, because the state isn't really interested in you trying to make for a living. But bitcoin and other crypto give opportunities to make your own, independent investments. Which would be profitable, and by profit I mean more than 8% per year. I don't have time for real estate and precious metal. My "gambling without understanding" gives me a chance to live, while everything else doesn't work at all.

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