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Quote from: so98nn on January 07, 2023, 07:40:02 AM

Honestly crypto currencies are affecting Global Economy at tiny fraction as compared to what goes around the world. I mean we talking about the Global scale economy and compared to that crypto currencies are nothing!

In my view, cryptocurrencies or bitcoins do not have any effect on the global economy even the slightest. It is true that the market has been interested and has had significant changes recently, but that is not enough for it to affect the macro level. It's too early to talk about that.
I don't underestimate crypto but after all we are still in the infancy of the crypto industry so we can't over exaggerate it. But I believe with its potential, it will become an industry comparable to other industries in the future. One of those signs is that people are starting to see bitcoin as digital gold.

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That's how the government wants to keep control over the people's finances, because if decentralized they can't do anything if something bad happens to the people and the more precise reason is that they can't take advantage, especially the bankers.
Because basically, the industry that will be disrupted when crypto adoption takes root is banking, if you look at it today the aspects contained in banks are already in DEFI so it will be easy for Blockchain technology to shift the highest throne of financial institutions.
CBDCs may be a backup plan to be an option for the government to keep control of finances and as an alternative form of currency that people can use to keep themselves away from crypto.

You are right, CBDC is still a controlled CBDC as fiat functions. The government just wants to make sure that digital finance has to adapt to the growth of crypto. But then again they're not crypto, they're just leveraging Blockchain as a reincarnation of fiat. I wouldn't worry too much, because users who already know the function of crypto as full control will know the difference with CBDC clearly.

Yes, there is a clear difference between CBDC and cryptocurrencies. CBDC is centralized, not cryptocurrencies, It is more or less stable and it is subject to the government, and can be kept in bank accounts with no credit or liquidity risks. It will enable the general public to conduct digital payments because it plays a role in facilitating access to financial services, and as you mentioned, the idea of CBDC stems from blockchain technology, and I see that in the future, CBDC may have an impact on the cryptocurrency market and sector, and it will help and enhance financial stability in the banking system and reduce dependence on cash. As for the impact of cryptocurrencies on the global economy, I see that they can have not a noticeable impact because cryptocurrencies are not government-backed and are not internationally recognized in many countries.

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Quote from: bangjoe on January 07, 2023, 07:05:47 AM

That's how the government wants to keep control over the people's finances, because if decentralized they can't do anything if something bad happens to the people and the more precise reason is that they can't take advantage, especially the bankers.
Because basically, the industry that will be disrupted when crypto adoption takes root is banking, if you look at it today the aspects contained in banks are already in DEFI so it will be easy for Blockchain technology to shift the highest throne of financial institutions.
CBDCs may be a backup plan to be an option for the government to keep control of finances and as an alternative form of currency that people can use to keep themselves away from crypto.

You are right, CBDC is still a controlled CBDC as fiat functions. The government just wants to make sure that digital finance has to adapt to the growth of crypto. But then again they're not crypto, they're just leveraging Blockchain as a reincarnation of fiat. I wouldn't worry too much, because users who already know the function of crypto as full control will know the difference with CBDC clearly.

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Honestly crypto currencies are affecting Global Economy at tiny fraction as compared to what goes around the world. I mean we talking about the Global scale economy and compared to that crypto currencies are nothing! Sorry to say folks but we feel the greatness of bitcoin because we are involved with it directly and presumably on daily basis. Crypto currencies have effects like disturbed banking system, increased criminal activities including money laundering cases.

On the positive side, it has given world a chance to have alternate transaction system with data integrity at it's best. Limitless ways to make your transaction with less paper work and be faceless.

Basically we have pros and cons and it's wider topic to discuss really.

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Quote from: tabas on January 07, 2023, 07:22:11 AM

Those countries that are making their CBDC, they're totally out of the circulation and market cap of the entire crypto market because they're not really cryptos.
They're just making it look like that those CBDCs are crypto because people will get to hooked with its name and descriptions. But other than that, the crypto market shall be a stand alone market and that's what the governments are trying to compete because they see that there's a huge market and money that they can get to touch with it. And that means for them and financial institutions that they can no longer ignore the importance that it has got for the global market.

A simple listing of CBDC on popular price aggregator like cmc and coingecko an brainwash and accept it as cryptocurrency by the majority. This is same with USDT which we all know how shady it is but people and majority of exchange use it as main pair of all crypto for stable coins despite the risk.

No matter how hard we can fight against it. They can easily target the foolish mind of normal crypto holder to make think that it is part of the crypto market.

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There has a good and bad effects on every country's economy. It's good because the transactions that are important to businesses will be faster, the fees are also lower and it's safe to use. Because of this, each country's economy can grow depending on how they handle it.
The possible negative effects are can be used for illegal activities such as the smuggling of weapons and contraband that can indeed strengthen the economy but affect opposing countries.
But if they find a solution to control it, it will surely have a good effect on every country.

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Those countries that are making their CBDC, they're totally out of the circulation and market cap of the entire crypto market because they're not really cryptos.
They're just making it look like that those CBDCs are crypto because people will get to hooked with its name and descriptions. But other than that, the crypto market shall be a stand alone market and that's what the governments are trying to compete because they see that there's a huge market and money that they can get to touch with it. And that means for them and financial institutions that they can no longer ignore the importance that it has got for the global market.

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That's how the government wants to keep control over the people's finances, because if decentralized they can't do anything if something bad happens to the people and the more precise reason is that they can't take advantage, especially the bankers.
Because basically, the industry that will be disrupted when crypto adoption takes root is banking, if you look at it today the aspects contained in banks are already in DEFI so it will be easy for Blockchain technology to shift the highest throne of financial institutions.
CBDCs may be a backup plan to be an option for the government to keep control of finances and as an alternative form of currency that people can use to keep themselves away from crypto.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on January 05, 2023, 02:52:19 PM

I don't think there is any impact that CBDC does to cryptocurrency. Moreover Venezuela or China are not the only country that has adopted it but no impact felt in global market because of it, at least no report so far by no one to the effect as said that CBDC is responsible for decline or push to the price. Nigeria is also one of the countries that have adopted or created digital currency and I think that creation was for the purpose of pushing the local currency as digital and nothing more because no positive effect so far to the Nigerian economy or the support for CBDC contributed to rise in global economy .

The effect of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies on the global economy is not something we can ignore, but the CBDC is not something related to the bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, CBDC is something created by the governments and the central banks and that's not something decentralized at all but bitcoin was the reason for the creation of CBDC, I think that's part of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies effect on the world economy, but the other side of this effect can be some governments like El Salvador using bitcoin for their own payments systems and this effect can even grow over time.

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 05, 2023, 03:54:40 PM

CBCD is been created by government of a country to minimize fiat currency which is depreciating gradually. It does not have any effect on the global economy and it is not also a decentralized currency. No matter the way it is presented to the citizens it still remains centralized. So if a country creates its own digital currency and link it to gold or oil barrel price it still will not change anything.

I don't think that is their purpose of creating it but the more obvious reason would be is to counter crypto. CBDC's are I think backed by a real fiat so it does not help either in terms of cutting the inflation. Cryptos aren't tied to any local currencies so it's the one that doesn't have an effect to the global economy but CBDC's can even though CBDC's are close to being a crypto since they also runs in the blockchain.

CBDC's are centralized but the creators of it didn't denied it either and then the public already knows this even without any explanation but only by knowing their origin or where they came from. I don't know if CBDC's can be linked with gold and oil but if it's possible then the more it will affect the global economy.

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The more users there are, the less Bitcoin will be controlled by a few people in the market. Of course, at a certain stage of mining, it is not impossible to rivet whether the price stability will become the world currency. You can print as many dollars as you want, but Bitcoin No, I think this is the basis for Bitcoin to become the world's currency.

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Quote from: coupable on January 05, 2023, 09:40:08 AM

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Is it true that cryptocurrencies will weaken the global financial system? That system which is managed by countries with the strongest economies with their currencies that has gained wide acceptance to be traded in financial markets all over the world.

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Instead of weakening it, cryptocurrencies complement the global financial system. In my opinion, cryptocurrency appears not as a competitor or a technology that disrupts the global financial system but as an alternative technology which will innovate and advance the global financial system. Just imagine if cryptocurrency didn't appear, maybe until now we are still monopolized by old school transaction systems, which are not fast enough, weak, prone to hacking, high fees, etc. With the emergence of cryptocurrency, it will awaken the central bank/banks to be able to improve their system and present a transaction system - which, although not better than cryptocurrency - is still good enough and helpful for customers. We as users with the presence of cryptocurrency are also given alternative options to complete their transactions, and we really need this.

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The global financial system is weak by itself, by the inefficient adopted policies to keep inflation under control and to allow governments to create more public expenses. The global system is weak because long term measures aren't adopted by regulators and economists, since they are considered unpopular. I believe bitcoin is just an escape for those who see this reality in front of their eyes, but can do nothing, since most people are blind and careless about the situation. I see bitcoin's effect isn't in a global scale, but on the individual one, as it's impacting the lives of its adopters singly. To have a major effect, bitcoin adoption should be more widespread at this point, what isn't the case.

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Quote from: coupable on January 05, 2023, 09:40:08 AM

Is it true that cryptocurrencies will weaken the global financial system?

Specifically — Bitcoin will weaken government-controlled fiat currencies assuming things go well for Bitcoin, hence weakening government control. Not necessarily that it will weaken the economy.

As for "crypto", it's still very much unlikely to replace most of digital ownership like stocks due to regulatory reasons. It's much easier to decentralize a currency/SoV than a business ownership certificate.

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Allow me to let you know that the "Petro" experiment in Venezuela was a failure, it was all smoke and mirrors. In reality, that coin had no actual demand in the market and the little demand it had, was created artificially by the government. It is not decentralized either, by the way.

If the talk about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, their impact is easier to observe and measure at local and national levels, because these assets suits the necessities of certain countries very well, being nations like Argentina, Venezuela and Nigeria good examples. The adoption is still concentrated in regions.

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Quote from: coupable on January 05, 2023, 09:40:08 AM

Central banks are based on producing fiat money within controls and according to a corresponding stock of metals such as gold, or a reserve of major currencies such as the US dollar.

Do you really beleive this statement? Maybe many did until 2020 but that year really proved banks are printing the amount of money they wanted not based on reserves or anything as they did in 19th century so these fiat currencies are already weakening and this time we have an alternative to those papers so called decentralized currency which isn't doing anything bad do the economy meanwhile protect the users from inflation and actual value depends on demand and supply rule.

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This article[1] is a good read answering @OP's title on how cryptocurrencies affect global economy.

The article answered how will global investments be impacted. It stated that it hedges the portfolio from potential risks the main reason for the rise of cryptocurrencies across various exchange-traded products.

It also stated the benefits of the global economy on cryptocurrency since it speeds up transactions, having no intermediaries results in lower fees, less need for a physical structure that gives lower fixed cost due to no need for wages, rent expenses, and utility bills. There is no global barriers since cryptocurrency has no boundaries and it facilitates easy and quick trade for corporations (reason why SBF can easily comingle FTX funds with Alameda)

In addition, it also stated that entreprenuers can receive payment in more currency which helps them get financial coverage and liberated financial connection. Since the cryptocurrency network is backed by distributed ledger technology. It is automated and digitized too. Thus, it eliminates the risk of fraud and corruption, the biggest dent in the traditional financial system.[1]

Cryptocurrency also enable financial inclusions[1] and blockchain and cryptocurrency can help build greener future.[1]

[1] https://internationalfinance.com/how-cryptocurrency-reshape-global-economy/

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CBCD is been created by government of a country to minimize fiat currency which is depreciating gradually. It does not have any effect on the global economy and it is not also a decentralized currency. No matter the way it is presented to the citizens it still remains centralized. So if a country creates its own digital currency and link it to gold or oil barrel price it still will not change anything.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on January 05, 2023, 02:52:19 PM

I don't think there is any impact that CBDC does to cryptocurrency. Moreover Venezuela or China are not the only country that has adopted it but no impact felt in global market because of it, at least no report so far by no one to the effect as said that CBDC is responsible for decline or push to the price. Nigeria is also one of the countries that have adopted or created digital currency and I think that creation was for the purpose of pushing the local currency as digital and nothing more because no positive effect so far to the Nigerian economy or the support for CBDC contributed to rise in global economy .

With the exception of China, the rest of those countries that issued their digital version of the currency are going through economic problems, including financial dependence on the great powers. On this basis, they cannot link their CBDC currencies to their local currencies, unlike China, which has the digital yuan as an electronic version of the yuan fiat.
According to some articles, Britain is also in an experimental stage to generalize the use of CBDC, but there is no information about the reason for the delay or the launch date.

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I don't think there is any impact that CBDC does to cryptocurrency. Moreover Venezuela or China are not the only country that has adopted it but no impact felt in global market because of it, at least no report so far by no one to the effect as said that CBDC is responsible for decline or push to the price. Nigeria is also one of the countries that have adopted or created digital currency and I think that creation was for the purpose of pushing the local currency as digital and nothing more because no positive effect so far to the Nigerian economy or the support for CBDC contributed to rise in global economy .

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