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Topic: How do I completely, and I do mean completely hide my tracks on the internet? (Read 402 times)

legendary
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The company like wasabi chipmixer and tornado cash want to achieve untracked balance and transaction what you did and this most crypto want to achive privacy
Wasabi spies on their users. If you are interested in privacy, you should absolutely not use Wasabi.
member
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If you understand how the internet works, then you would know that you can never be completely and totally anonymous. The internet is about sharing, and there way you can have a connection without sharing and there is no way you can get information without others sharing it.

So, in practical terms, it is impossible to completely clear your tracks,.no matter what.

Well, maybe I could be wrong. But I would love to be corrected.
copper member
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Part of AOBT - English Translator to Indonesia
To be honest based on my opinion its kinda hard since gov like NSA on Edward Snowden movie will know everything about you. The legal company like google collect data about you if you are using cheap android like me the phone company is collect your data too. Browsing through VPN and tor broswer encrypted you to your server but still the isp still know about you.

And i dont know VPN provider says "no log" but if the police come might says about you too.

The company like wasabi chipmixer and tornado cash want to achieve untracked balance and transaction what you did and this most crypto want to achive privacy
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Nothing is perfect 100%.

You can not achieve 100% privacy, anonymity with the Internet, Tor connections, crypto transactions and mixers. What we do believe is perfect nowadays will become outdated and compromised (with its weakness) in future.

It is like hackers find security holes, bugs and exploit it. There are always black holes, bugs, weakness in any tool we are using.

Tor is the best for now and you can use it on mobile too.
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is tor only good enough?  So any free vpn is no good?
legendary
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See below for a comparison of the two:
A comparison between a VPN and Tor, written by a free VPN provider, is never going to be unbiased. Skipping over why free VPNs are a terrible idea, the privacy policy of that particular one says that they collect your name and other person information and use that information to send you ads and other marketing. That's a huge red flag and you should never use this provider.

The best website where you can get the basic information is
https://www.privacytools.io/
As I've linked to just a couple of posts above, the actual site you want to be using is: https://www.privacyguides.org/. You can read why privacytools was abandoned here: https://www.privacyguides.org/blog/2021/09/14/welcome-to-privacy-guides
legendary
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bitcoindata.science
There a few good resources to try to have some privacy on the internet.
However it is very challenge to achieve a decent amount of privacy online, as we need to give out our personal data for basically anything.

The best website where you can get the basic information is
https://www.privacytools.io/

If you want a deeper understanding about how to completely hide your tracks, this is a must read from Jameson Loop:
https://blog.lopp.net/modest-privacy-protection-proposal/ (A Modest Privacy Protection Proposal)

The main problem here is that it is very expensive. It includes even money used to rent mailboxes and stuff like that to receive itens you buy online.
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Pricing people out of privacy
Before we begin, I want to be clear that many of the techniques come at a cost. I had to fill out hundreds of pages of paperwork, spend around $30,000 in legal/banking/service fees, and endure a four-month process in order to achieve my goals. I estimate annual recurring costs of over $15,000 for my extreme setup.


I few time ago a posted this, which i tried to make a summary of the most improtant tools (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lets-talk-about-privacy-3210982)
newbie
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All of the above who unsubscribed seem to have become assistants to a young hacker or fraudster.
It is possible to remain anonymous on the Internet, but it looks like it needs knowledge, and the OP does not have it. But at the same time, he is going to do something not very good and asks for help from those people whom it will be possible to deceive in the future.
OP, although the forum does not prohibit cheating, but since your request clearly states that you require privacy for not-so-good activities, you just need to change the forum to get all the knowledge of how to hide on the net. Probably the darknet is too difficult for you, but the carding forums will teach you for a certain amount how not to fall for the police.  Grin

Recently, I read an article about the benefits and drawbacks of online activity, hidden history, and especially anonymous identity.



However, I used a VPN for any of my online activities, not Tor. See below for a comparison of the two:



https://splvpn.com/tor-vpn-which-is-better/">Tor Vs VPN: What They Do And Which Is Better?



Remember, I'm not telling you to use a VPN or Tor; I'm just showing you as a comparison, and of course, you understand everything you do online better.
full member
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In that case, may I also suggest with the following site, which is constantly being updated and which anyone can suggest improvements for via GitHub: https://privacyguides.org/
It gives great information, which it will help you to tailor to your individual circumstances by considering and building a threat model.

If you need to find a privacy respecting replacement for a particular piece of software, then I would suggest this site: https://prism-break.org/

Note that these are both focused on privacy, not security. The two are complementary, but definitely not synonymous. And yet, even if you do everything these sites recommend, you will still not achieve 100% anonymity as OP is looking for.


Ooohhh, DEFINITELY! Cool
Thank you o_e_l_e_o. I have bookmarked them already!
legendary
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Just thought it'd be a good starting point...
In that case, may I also suggest the following site, which is constantly being updated and which anyone can suggest improvements for via GitHub: https://privacyguides.org/
It gives great information, which it will help you to tailor to your individual circumstances by considering and building a threat model.

If you need to find a privacy respecting replacement for a particular piece of software, then I would suggest this site: https://prism-break.org/

Note that these are both focused on privacy, not security. The two are complementary, but definitely not synonymous. And yet, even if you do everything these sites recommend, you will still not achieve 100% anonymity as OP is looking for.
full member
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o_e_l_e_o: well, in the best of cases, I play it by ear when it comes to security. But keep in mind that forum was closed about 5 years ago, so  the information on that thread is bound to be outdated. Just thought it'd be a good starting point...
legendary
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There was a thread on the Crunchbang forum, called "The Paranoid Guide to Security", or something to that effect, that had a ton of information. It's bound to be outdated, but should give you a really good starting point.
I've had a quick read through that thread, which I found here: https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722. It does offer lots of good security advice, but not much in the way of privacy advice. However, there is unfortunately some pretty bad advice mixed in there too, such as saying that you should let your browser run Java and Flash, as well as suggesting a bunch of unnecessary browser add-ons, which only serve to make your browser fingerprint unique and therefore make your privacy much worse. The specific criticisms of Tor are not good reasons not to user Tor (it's slow, your ISP will know you are using Tor (this is easily prevented) and your Tor exit node can see your traffic (https keep most data encrypted)), and recommending a VPN as better than Tor when it comes to privacy is just plain wrong. He even suggests that a VPN allows you to use the internet "anonymously", which it absolutely does not.
full member
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This does, though
I'm sorry if I looked rude, I re-read my post. You're right about the statement, I hadn't noticed it, I had just given it a glimpse.

Don't worry about it, you didn't. You did look somehow offended, though, which puzzled me for a moment.

My outlook is very simple: I provide options, to the best of my knowledge
By outlook, I meant the general attitude to life. What's ethical and what's not is subjective. For instance, one may say that encryption shouldn't be an option without the government's approval. Or that our civil liberties should be inordinately curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.

My point is that you don't have to hide something that's unethical to require privacy. And in my opinion, even if you do, they can't seriously sacrifice every innocent person's privacy with the alibi to catch you.

Oh, I see.
Well, you're talking to a guy that survived a couple of years by pirating software, while I was in Miami, so you won't get any lectures from me. Grin
My position is I don't hurt people, and I don't allow people to hurt me. But I'm, above all, a practical man. If the risk is unacceptably high on something I do, I stop doing it. When I was pirating software, I started on a roommate's advice who was doing the same. Contrarily to me (and despite my efforts to make him be more careful), he was very flamboyant in his advertising, offering (among other things) "free shipping anywhere in the US" (which is considered contraband, and it's another federal offense). To make the story short, one day somebody knocked at the door. It was the cops, they were looking for him.
That's the day I stopped.

So, I'm an avid user of The Pirate Bay and YTS. I couldn't care less if Bill Gates has to wait one more day (or year, doesn't matter) to add an extra million to his bank account. But if the cashier at a supermarket makes a mistake and gives me more money than they should, I give it back.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
This does, though
I'm sorry if I looked rude, I re-read my post. You're right about the statement, I hadn't noticed it, I had just given it a glimpse.

My outlook is very simple: I provide options, to the best of my knowledge
By outlook, I meant the general attitude to life. What's ethical and what's not is subjective. For instance, one may say that encryption shouldn't be an option without the government's approval. Or that our civil liberties should be inordinately curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.

My point is that you don't have to hide something that's unethical to require privacy. And in my opinion, even if you do, they can't seriously sacrifice every innocent person's privacy with the alibi to catch you.
full member
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BlackHatCoiner: that doesn't imply anything, other than what I typed.
This does, though:

... and I gotta say that my line of work I'm looking at isn't the most ethical, and I'm looking to ensure my safety.

My outlook is very simple: I provide options, to the best of my knowledge. If the OP is stating his chosen (or about to be chosen) line of work is "not the most ethical", one option (being that he's concerned about his safety) would be to switch to another one. Not once did I say or imply he should do one thing or the other.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
Or, of course, a much easier way would be just looking at a more ethical way of life...
Excuse me?

Does that imply that he's not having one right now due to his need for privacy? Does that imply that privacy is indissolubly connected with unethical attitude? Or that there's no even one law that goes against ethics? Clarify your outlook, cause you're in a forum that respects human rights and the like to the bone.
full member
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cacclordx: you can hide completely online, but it implies a lot of work, not only installing a safer OS (there are a number of Linux distros aimed at that), using TOR, etc., but moving around and using public networks without CCTV, working off a pendrive, etc.
There was a thread on the Crunchbang forum, called "The Paranoid Guide to Security", or something to that effect, that had a ton of information. It's bound to be outdated, but should give you a really good starting point.
Or, of course, a much easier way would be just looking at a more ethical way of life...
sr. member
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If you really become anonymous, you need to learn to be a hacker because that is not possible as a regular user who uses the internet all day long. You will leave some cache or cookies from any website you visit or the online store. Using VPN does not make you fully anonymous, but it could help you hide your real IP.

As long as you can be careful when you connect internet, I think you can feel safe and not too worried. I think you do not have to feel too stressed thinking about anonymity or not because you can prevent the bad thing that can happen to you.
There's no need to become a hacker if you could just follow most of the advices above especially the suggestions that @o_e_l_e_o gave. And being anonymous just because you want to protect your privacy doesn't mean you are a bad guy. Well, whatever they want to do it's just the same guidelines that also benefit with the bad guy and either way there's no right or wrong on doing this. Although, you may look suspicious if someone is watching you.
legendary
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Is there a way to reach another level of safety, or are my choices limited?
Yes you can completely hide your tracks on the internet by moving away from cities, than you stop using internet, smartphones, computers and all modern technology, and than you start to live off the grid in some forest without any signal.
In reality, it's almost impossible to completely hide anything on internet, even if you are very careful and even if you use all the tools VPN and Tor correctly.
Most you can achieve with this tools is to reduce your online fingerprint and browsing history.
legendary
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Just because OP wants to protect his privacy doesn't mean he is going to deceive, steal, scam, etc.

Well, in truth, I don't give a damn what he's up to and what he wants to hide from.
I emphasized the fact that this forum, and especially the section for beginners, will not be able to provide him and teach him that confidentiality and anonymity that he would like to think about. All advice without proper tuning of experience and knowledge rolls into a pit.
And there are places on the Internet where confidentiality is not dealt with childishly, but it is taught at all levels. Which, in principle, I advised him.
Nothing personal.
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