I think a lot of it has to go with the fact that ethnic white communities feel victimized, feeling like they're being forced to stay politically correct.
That's the demographic FN and PVV pander to: white, working class, frustrated males. And that's been that way ever since the Euro-sceptic right wing emerged.
Don't see anything changing. Jews then, Muslims now, someone else 50 years down the line
Topic: How Do I Tell My Daughter That People Across Europe Fear Minorities Like Us? - page 2. (Read 2050 times)
June 02, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
May 31, 2014, 11:37:55 PM
It is very simple. When the economy turns to shit, people turn selfish and want to blame anyone but themselves for their debt gorge.
The comments in this thread are pathetic. You politically correct ass wipes make me want to puke.
Look in the fucking mirror. The whole fucking mess of collective society is always an abject failure. The only thing that ever works is the individual and the frontier.
I could care fucking less about your endless (useless and reinforcing failure) political pontification and hot air balloons masturbation.
Tell your daughter to focus on gaining a skill and being productive in the Knowledge Age (or nurture her to be a good wife to a man who can, feminism BS be damned), where guvmint won't be able to provide for her any more. Wasting her time on this crap shows you don't have a clue how to be a parent (and the guvmint has been doing that job very poorly for you, indoctrinating her mind with this nonsense).
The comments in this thread are pathetic. You politically correct ass wipes make me want to puke.
Look in the fucking mirror. The whole fucking mess of collective society is always an abject failure. The only thing that ever works is the individual and the frontier.
I could care fucking less about your endless (useless and reinforcing failure) political pontification and hot air balloons masturbation.
Tell your daughter to focus on gaining a skill and being productive in the Knowledge Age (or nurture her to be a good wife to a man who can, feminism BS be damned), where guvmint won't be able to provide for her any more. Wasting her time on this crap shows you don't have a clue how to be a parent (and the guvmint has been doing that job very poorly for you, indoctrinating her mind with this nonsense).
True.
But leniency is needed for the cutthroat nature of market competition.
May 31, 2014, 06:43:27 PM
You cannot convince me that there are no bigots in the Muslim world. You cannot convince me that there are no extremist murderer kidnapper psycho sickos in the Muslim world. America has not yet forgotten 9/11, and if you've paid any kind of attention to the news lately, you'll know what those whackos now want to do to the nearly 300 girls they kidnapped -- and the Nigerian military doesn't seem to have enough testosterone to do anything about it. That said, I understand that these people are a minority and Christianity also has people like the Westboro "Baptist" Church, which doesn't even represent most Baptists and made headlines often enough to make all Christians look bad. My main thing is, if you don't want people to think bad of your entire religion, don't pull crap like flying planes into buildings or picketing a dead soldier's funeral, and then whine to everybody who will listen because you've suddenly realized that you've developed a massive public image problem
no one is trying to convince you about it, it's the opposite,but what you fail to see and realize here, is that there are between one to two billion Muslim around the world, and by far the vast majority are peaceful people that do no deeds, there are psychopaths, there are murders, but that is not exceptional! you can find in every community, religion, population..... the same amount of people doing the same things, if you check the last five years for example, there were far more people killed in America unrelated to anything Islamic, but once a single thing is related to Muslims appears it is always blown out of proportion, to augment the fear factor, and to augment the military, intelligence spending.....ect and to serve obviously some agenda.tl,dr : In our world there are psychopaths no matter what the race, religion, country.... it is, there is just too much focus on the foreigners in general to serve certain agendas.
I agree with that, and basically other things in general. I think it's because countries are more shaded from what other countries, how the most 'important' things make the news. And by the time they come to another country, somebody has made it more dramatic, and replaced the need-to-know details with ones that don't tell the whole story. And the things that are going to be outlined more are either:
Race
Religion
Gender
Nationality
May 31, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
I guess the "she" is Madam Le Pen, the daughter and heir of the one and only Le Pen, who recently told the press that Ebola could be a good way to solve the demographic explosion in Africa.
I imagine that her daughter wasn't kind to him the first opportunity she had to talk with him ("Are you f***ing senile, to tell that to the press? There are true things we can't confess to the press!!).
I imagine that her daughter wasn't kind to him the first opportunity she had to talk with him ("Are you f***ing senile, to tell that to the press? There are true things we can't confess to the press!!).
May 31, 2014, 05:43:49 PM
You cannot convince me that there are no bigots in the Muslim world. You cannot convince me that there are no extremist murderer kidnapper psycho sickos in the Muslim world. America has not yet forgotten 9/11, and if you've paid any kind of attention to the news lately, you'll know what those whackos now want to do to the nearly 300 girls they kidnapped -- and the Nigerian military doesn't seem to have enough testosterone to do anything about it. That said, I understand that these people are a minority and Christianity also has people like the Westboro "Baptist" Church, which doesn't even represent most Baptists and made headlines often enough to make all Christians look bad. My main thing is, if you don't want people to think bad of your entire religion, don't pull crap like flying planes into buildings or picketing a dead soldier's funeral, and then whine to everybody who will listen because you've suddenly realized that you've developed a massive public image problem
no one is trying to convince you about it, it's the opposite,but what you fail to see and realize here, is that there are between one to two billion Muslim around the world, and by far the vast majority are peaceful people that do no deeds, there are psychopaths, there are murders, but that is not exceptional! you can find in every community, religion, population..... the same amount of people doing the same things, if you check the last five years for example, there were far more people killed in America unrelated to anything Islamic, but once a single thing is related to Muslims appears it is always blown out of proportion, to augment the fear factor, and to augment the military, intelligence spending.....ect and to serve obviously some agenda.tl,dr : In our world there are psychopaths no matter what the race, religion, country.... it is, there is just too much focus on the foreigners in general to serve certain agendas.
May 31, 2014, 05:35:57 PM
she and her party won because she plays on people emotions with lies and transformations of facts, playing on fear, and dissatifaction Holldand and the PS is getting for not succeding to change the unemployment curve and the economic situation overall, she will use the fear factor, and she targets the muslim community and other minorities as they are an easy target and use a case are two to generalize and push her opinion
May 31, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
You cannot convince me that there are no bigots in the Muslim world. You cannot convince me that there are no extremist murderer kidnapper psycho sickos in the Muslim world. America has not yet forgotten 9/11, and if you've paid any kind of attention to the news lately, you'll know what those whackos now want to do to the nearly 300 girls they kidnapped -- and the Nigerian military doesn't seem to have enough testosterone to do anything about it. That said, I understand that these people are a minority and Christianity also has people like the Westboro "Baptist" Church, which doesn't even represent most Baptists and made headlines often enough to make all Christians look bad. My main thing is, if you don't want people to think bad of your entire religion, don't pull crap like flying planes into buildings or picketing a dead soldier's funeral, and then whine to everybody who will listen because you've suddenly realized that you've developed a massive public image problem
May 31, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
Europeans mixed with Neanderthals. Every European has between 3 and 5% of Neanderthal genes. Yes, Europeans are a very superior and pure race.
And it happened before those Europeans moved to the other parts of the world. Those 4% to be exact, are a very important bit. We have Neanderthals to thank for our immune system.
Lethn, I completely agree with you, but I think we need to add specicism to that list of stupid things...
May 31, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
Europeans mixed with Neanderthals. Every European has between 3 and 5% of Neanderthal genes. Yes, Europeans are a very superior and pure race.
May 31, 2014, 12:19:58 PM
easy..
tell her, people from the US came from Europe, you're the same
tell her, people from the US came from Europe, you're the same
That's the stupid thing I find about racism and xenophobia, you get any of these morons to submit to a DNA test and you'll find they'll at least have 5% something that isn't what they claim they are, single cultures are dead and soon the single race will be dead as well
I'd like to do some DNA testing on both the BNP white supremacists and Muslim supremacists, I'm sure we'll all be in hysterics, the Muslims will probably find out they have some kind of Christian ancestors and then the white supremacists will have some african blood in them or something.
This is why I think racism is a fucking joke and people should never take it seriously.
May 31, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
easy..
tell her, people from the US came from Europe, you're the same
tell her, people from the US came from Europe, you're the same
May 30, 2014, 10:07:24 PM
It is a bit different with Muslims. Jews did not hijack planes, make car bombs or kidnap high school girls. Such comparison is unfair.
Go tell that to the British. The Jews bombed up many of them, including their headquarters, the King David Hotel, in 1946 (91 dead), trying to expel the British and forming an independent State. And they did the same to the Arabs since 1938.
Now, as a state, well... bombing terrorists, including in western States (against the Munich terrorists), Lebanon, Tunisia (against the headquarters of the PLO in 1985), Gaza...
Former victims are always ready to make some victims too.
May 30, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
It is very simple. When the economy turns to shit, people turn selfish and want to blame anyone but themselves for their debt gorge.
The comments in this thread are pathetic. You politically correct ass wipes make me want to puke.
Look in the fucking mirror. The whole fucking mess of collective society is always an abject failure. The only thing that ever works is the individual and the frontier.
I could care fucking less about your endless (useless and reinforcing failure) political pontification and hot air balloons masturbation.
Tell your daughter to focus on gaining a skill and being productive in the Knowledge Age (or nurture her to be a good wife to a man who can, feminism BS be damned), where guvmint won't be able to provide for her any more. Wasting her time on this crap shows you don't have a clue how to be a parent (and the guvmint has been doing that job very poorly for you, indoctrinating her mind with this nonsense).
The comments in this thread are pathetic. You politically correct ass wipes make me want to puke.
Look in the fucking mirror. The whole fucking mess of collective society is always an abject failure. The only thing that ever works is the individual and the frontier.
I could care fucking less about your endless (useless and reinforcing failure) political pontification and hot air balloons masturbation.
Tell your daughter to focus on gaining a skill and being productive in the Knowledge Age (or nurture her to be a good wife to a man who can, feminism BS be damned), where guvmint won't be able to provide for her any more. Wasting her time on this crap shows you don't have a clue how to be a parent (and the guvmint has been doing that job very poorly for you, indoctrinating her mind with this nonsense).
May 30, 2014, 07:20:12 PM
It's not a religion thing, no one would be making a ruckus if it were Albanians, Bosnians and white-looking Tatars migrating by the millions into Britain / France
Europe has a long tradition of xenophobia even with white people. It is more of a nationalism thing than racism I think.
May 30, 2014, 07:18:10 PM
It's not a religion thing, no one would be making a ruckus if it were Albanians, Bosnians and white-looking Tatars migrating by the millions into Britain / France
May 30, 2014, 06:46:45 PM
It's hard to combat the anti-Muslim hysteria when a young Muslim woman is jailed for writing 'Jihadi poetry' (released on appeal, admittedly), whereas a former BNP nut and known Muslim-hater caught with a huge cache of explosives in his garden shed is charged under the Explosives Act, in a trial that didn't even make the mainstream media.
May 30, 2014, 06:16:13 PM
I agree. It's also stunning how after a certain war happened, in which the U.S gained more oil, people still think that only certain people can be terrorist. Some people cling to the idea of certain ideals and morals make terrorist, and also the way they dress make them extremists. Some media outlets also uphold these statements, and only post 'those' stories, in which, they don't talk about what the U.S or any other country has done to a degree. When I see some Muslim women where I live, people automatically want to stray away from them.
They think the way they dress automatically align them with our 'ideas' of extremists or terrorists. Yet, if I told them the U.S basically stole soil to engage in a bigger source of wealth, they'll swear that the U.S was protecting us.
They think the way they dress automatically align them with our 'ideas' of extremists or terrorists. Yet, if I told them the U.S basically stole soil to engage in a bigger source of wealth, they'll swear that the U.S was protecting us.
No smoke without fire I guess.
May 30, 2014, 06:14:40 PM
How can people still be this idiotic? World War II happened decades ago. Really long time to learn from mistakes... That happened because of... What? Mostly Isolation, and not wanting to aid in the fight.
Europe is still infected with nationalism, and with nationalism comes xenophobia, racism and everything else. I've read a lot of the anti-Semitic propaganda from 100 years ago, it's so frighteningly similar to what I read being written about Muslims today. "To lie, cheat and swindle?" That's why we still have the verb "to Jew" someone, meaning to lie to them, to cheat or swindle them.
"still infected with nationalism"?!? Thanks to God! There's still hope. Bad news for you mate: apart from the brainwashed liberals and leftist most of us here in Europe are indeed proud about our nations, our history, our traditions, our legacy and our achievements. Even worse news: from year to year more and more Europeans finding their way back to their roots.
May 30, 2014, 01:53:01 PM
It is a bit different with Muslims. Jews did not hijack planes, make car bombs or kidnap high school girls. Such comparison is unfair.
We all understand only a small percentage of Muslims are extremists, but they are impossible to identify by appearance, so fearful people choose to keep a distance.
We all understand only a small percentage of Muslims are extremists, but they are impossible to identify by appearance, so fearful people choose to keep a distance.
Wow, that's a great way to justify using a small group of people, to identify the whole religion or race.
Americans: Hey, that one guy is ignorant to the fact America isn't that powerful. All Americans think that way.
British: I see a few people in Britain drinking tea, so everybody there likes tea.
How about this? Anybody can be a extremist. Probably more Muslims, if you credit that to your thought process, but if the guy you've been smiling with from Australia blows up with a plane... How would you tell this to the Muslim that you've been 'keeping your distance from' and patted him down constantly at Airport Security?
I think their are a higher number of extremists in any culture in which there is a high degree of poverty as well. When you have nothing to lose it is easy to become radicalized. The key to ending Islamic terrorism is economic not military. You see the same thing on a more limited basis in the US with some of our minority populations. The fact that so many Muslims live in such poverty right beside such vast oil wealth is disgusting.
I agree. It's also stunning how after a certain war happened, in which the U.S gained more oil, people still think that only certain people can be terrorist. Some people cling to the idea of certain ideals and morals make terrorist, and also the way they dress make them extremists. Some media outlets also uphold these statements, and only post 'those' stories, in which, they don't talk about what the U.S or any other country has done to a degree. When I see some Muslim women where I live, people automatically want to stray away from them.
They think the way they dress automatically align them with our 'ideas' of extremists or terrorists. Yet, if I told them the U.S basically stole soil to engage in a bigger source of wealth, they'll swear that the U.S was protecting us.
May 30, 2014, 12:00:25 PM
It is a bit different with Muslims. Jews did not hijack planes, make car bombs or kidnap high school girls. Such comparison is unfair.
We all understand only a small percentage of Muslims are extremists, but they are impossible to identify by appearance, so fearful people choose to keep a distance.
We all understand only a small percentage of Muslims are extremists, but they are impossible to identify by appearance, so fearful people choose to keep a distance.
Wow, that's a great way to justify using a small group of people, to identify the whole religion or race.
Americans: Hey, that one guy is ignorant to the fact America isn't that powerful. All Americans think that way.
British: I see a few people in Britain drinking tea, so everybody there likes tea.
How about this? Anybody can be a extremist. Probably more Muslims, if you credit that to your thought process, but if the guy you've been smiling with from Australia blows up with a plane... How would you tell this to the Muslim that you've been 'keeping your distance from' and patted him down constantly at Airport Security?
I think their are a higher number of extremists in any culture in which there is a high degree of poverty as well. When you have nothing to lose it is easy to become radicalized. The key to ending Islamic terrorism is economic not military. You see the same thing on a more limited basis in the US with some of our minority populations. The fact that so many Muslims live in such poverty right beside such vast oil wealth is disgusting.
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