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legendary
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Shuffle.com
June 11, 2017, 07:17:59 AM
#27
I want to share a couple of things I learned from sports betting that could help level up other gamblers. Never chase your losses because if you do you'll eventually lose more. Avoid gambling sites/games with higher juice/house edges because it reduces your payout and it could also affect your profit in the long run.
sr. member
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June 11, 2017, 06:47:40 AM
#26
I think rewarding players to help you do things. Maybe add an option for every tweet you make you get some Satoshi like 5000 maybe ? Other ideas maybe like signature campaign directed for new members and that gives them free credits in your casino. Make the osy nice and if you want a small wage limit to withdraw. But I think you should split the pay half has wage limit the other half you can freely withdraw. Don't Make the wage limit too high. I think it would be an interesting way to bring new players in and it beats silly fwucets which help noone. Rather reward players for helping you.

Hello Zionatin

First and foremost, thanks for the feedback. As a special "first to respond" promo send a Personal Message to this account, and we will give you a promo code for a small no-deposit bonus that you can use to play, or simply withdraw as you please.

One of the very first features we built in was how to reward players for helping us through our Everyone Is An Affiliate Program. Any and all customers that are referred to our site through a direct link, a shared bet, a tweet or other kind of social network communication automatically put real money into the account of the person referring.

We have "call-out" rewards in our in-house ladder system for tweets, posts, etc, but actual financial reward comes from the automatically integrated affiliate structure, not from impressions.

When you mention wage limit... do you mean rollover? As in, how many times you have to wager the money in accordance to the bonus received? We do have special low-rollover promos for VIPs and for special ocasions (Hint: big-game-days), and we always look for ways of decreasing our rollover multipliers. Maybe you can suggest ways in which we can safely do this.

Again, thank you for your feedback. We agree 100% that customer integration is the key and have provided structures for rewarding players for helping us. We also know there is always room for improvement. So any suggestions are appreciated.



Yes I ment rollover . The call out rewards sound interesting I'll have to look into that. Thank you very much. I'll wage the Bitcoin s bit and test my luck. I have sent you a pm thank you very much.
hero member
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June 09, 2017, 11:26:29 AM
#25
I think there's nothing that we can advice. i think only gamble for fun and stay gamble they can be level up if they are gamble more..
This is just the same as other gambling site that giving you are level up bonus..
So i advice just like other said to gamble more.. but its just risky if you are not gamble for fun better to don't gamble..
newbie
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June 09, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
#24
Hello

This is awesome. Here is our attempt at making a coherent list from all these great inputs:

Thanks Pipols of bitcointalk!!

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1) Our own tidbit from avsbsports.eu:  Have fun. This is why you do it, for fun. What is fun for some might not be fun for others. Find your way of having fun with it and ride that... responsibly.


2) Spend time researching your options as far as providers go.

->They can start to level up by not playing on a scam site and researching on a website before they blindly deposit.
-If people see the game will be a closed one, then try different betting options.
There are few things that I would like to add up:
- Never trust any new gambling platform.
- Go through faq pages to find out whether site provide probably fair games and way to verify those results or not.


3) Don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose.

Also, don't forget to add, don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose Smiley
-Don't be a greed. Play with the fair odds which you think will give you more chances of winning. It's fine to take the high odds with high risk but be responsible when doing it and you must also know that you are adding some risk here.
In gambling nothing is impossible. If your a pro in gambling and have many experiences it's not much more reliable even if your just a newbei because gambling is based in luck and not even if you have many exoeriences and your pro now in gambling because win is much more lessen than lose. So just my tip is play only gambling that you can afford to lose
Don't deposit more than you can afford to loss.
There's no other way to "level up" in gambling but to make your bet higher. Gambling is all about having balls and being low inhibition and taking big risks. Want to level up? then raise your bet, if you don't want to take higher risks you can't level up.

Of course, im not condoning taking mindless risks but that's how it is.
well most of us here who already play gambling we do recommend to bet more in order to level up and  a great motivation is to teach how to be responsible even you already betting big bets if you can teach newbies how to make some control while they are playing big amount it will be some guide for them not to allow losing big capital yet keep playing responsibly.

4) Recognize the difference between games of skill and games of random chance. There is absolutely zero "levelling up" in games of random chance, and even thinking that is dangerous.

It's still stupid to think that if you get experience in gambling then you will win more money or you would end up profiting every time in the end. Regardless if you spend 10 years gambling, the results will be the same as before when you roll the dice. It's still random as fuck. Being experienced has nothing to do with gambling unless you are playing skill based games like poker and sports betting.
You don't. In gambling, everybody has only one level. There is really no point in getting a lot of experience in it as the changes are basically the same across the board.

So "leveling up" is basically a stupid concept in the world of gambling.
Exactly, if you have the mindset of leveling up right from the onset then I bet you'll never be successful at gambling. It can even land you in serious addiction if care is not taken so I will suggested you be as modest as possible before you gamble and never imagine leveling up.
I don't think there is anything that constitute levelling up in bitcoin gambling. Do you mean just how to keep betting more and more? Beg your friends and family for money. Take out a loan. That's the only way because of the house edge. You'll lose more often than you win. It's basic math.


5) In games of skill, expect to lose some percentage of the time, and use your losses as a learning tool for your own analysis.


Leveling up or being an experienced gambler is existing on gambling world. It will take time and money in able to learn and experience different kind of situation that will help to level up your gambling skills.
-> Tell them to not be butthurt and waste time opening scam accusations when they lose.
-Learned to analyzed what are those things and reasons why you lose.
-Care for other's analyzation and references alongside with  their backups claims but not you will just follow it. Make way to have your own analyzation too.
My advice: better to learn off someone's mistakes rather than your own. For example, there are many stories about people lost dozens of Bitcoins in a very short time, and it can happen to anyone who can wager those amounts. Newbies should also learn from experienced gamblers in sports betting and poker, although very few share their secrets, since it's their source of profit.
I think you can 'level up' by having more experience in gambling and when you study and understand the probabilities of gambling.
in a sportsbook you should have more experience for level up such as making an analysis of all your match also dare to take risks. if you are confident with your match analysis by putting a big bet and then your skills-based will increase.
Oh theres already a leveling on gambling field and i would say that we do really normally level up as we do play gambling on any kind of types we do gain experience and thats only how a certain individual would have level up on the field of gambling. no other thing can make us more knowledgeable but only on experience while we are playing.


6) Know how to win by setting coherent exit targets.

Set targets for both loss and win, so that you can exit at perfect time.





Thanks to everyone for your input. We will keep putting your stuff together into the list for newbs, so keep the suggestions coming!



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1) Have fun. This is why you do it, for fun.
2) Spend time researching your options as far as providers go.
3) Don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose.
4) Recognize the difference between games of skill and games of random chance. There is absolutely zero "levelling up" in games of random chance, and even thinking that is dangerous.
5) In games of skill, expect to lose some percentage of the time, and use your losses as a learning tool for your own analysis.
6) Know how to win by setting coherent exit targets.
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hero member
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June 09, 2017, 02:24:34 AM
#23
well most of us here who already play gambling we do recommend to bet more in order to level up and  a great motivation is to teach how to be responsible even you already betting big bets if you can teach newbies how to make some control while they are playing big amount it will be some guide for them not to allow losing big capital yet keep playing responsibly.
legendary
Activity: 966
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June 08, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
#22
I don't think there is anything that constitute levelling up in bitcoin gambling. Do you mean just how to keep betting more and more? Beg your friends and family for money. Take out a loan. That's the only way because of the house edge. You'll lose more often than you win. It's basic math.
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
#21
Oh theres already a leveling on gambling field and i would say that we do really normally level up as we do play gambling on any kind of types we do gain experience and thats only how a certain individual would have level up on the field of gambling. no other thing can make us more knowledgeable but only on experience while we are playing.
hero member
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June 08, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
#20
in a sportsbook you should have more experience for level up such as making an analysis of all your match also dare to take risks. if you are confident with your match analysis by putting a big bet and then your skills-based will increase.
sr. member
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June 08, 2017, 07:45:01 PM
#19
I think you can 'level up' by having more experience in gambling and when you study and understand the probabilities of gambling.
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
#18
Hello Pipols of Bitcointalk!!!

At avsbsports.eu we have many passions. We love gambling, we love games, we love sports, we love leveling up, we love learning and we love sharing that knowledge.

Thus, we ask you: What advice would you give to a novice gambler to help them "Level Up"? We will take your input and add it to our Newbies sections.

Thank You!



My advice: better to learn off someone's mistakes rather than your own. For example, there are many stories about people lost dozens of Bitcoins in a very short time, and it can happen to anyone who can wager those amounts. Newbies should also learn from experienced gamblers in sports betting and poker, although very few share their secrets, since it's their source of profit.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
June 08, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
#17
Thus, we ask you: What advice would you give to a novice gambler to help them "Level Up"? We will take your input and add it to our Newbies sections.
Every gambling site has their own level up rules depending on the wagered amount and such.If by leveling up you mean level up as a professional gambler then things are different and subjective.
 ->They can start to level up by not playing on a scam site and researching on a website before they blindly deposit.
 -> Tell them to not be butthurt and waste time opening scam accusations when they lose.

The second one is pretty legit Cheesy

The first one wouldn't make a lot of sense since they're betting on their website xD
But it's a nice tip to make a friendly contact with the customers
Not a bad idea actually

Also, don't forget to add, don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose Smiley
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
#16

There are things you do differently today than you did on your first day. If you could go back and tell yourself something beyond "Don't bet on the Lakers in the finals vs the Pistons", what would it be? What have you learned? What should we teach n00bs just coming into this area if our intent is for them to have fun?

-Learned to analyzed what are those things and reasons why you lose.

-Don't be a greed. Play with the fair odds which you think will give you more chances of winning. It's fine to take the high odds with high risk but be responsible when doing it and you must also know that you are adding some risk here.

-If people see the game will be a closed one, then try different betting options.

-Care for other's analyzation and references alongside with  their backups claims but not you will just follow it. Make way to have your own analyzation too.
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 01:21:26 PM
#15
Thus, we ask you: What advice would you give to a novice gambler to help them "Level Up"? We will take your input and add it to our Newbies sections.
Every gambling site has their own level up rules depending on the wagered amount and such.If by leveling up you mean level up as a professional gambler then things are different and subjective.
 ->They can start to level up by not playing on a scam site and researching on a website before they blindly deposit.
 -> Tell them to not be butthurt and waste time opening scam accusations when they lose.
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 08, 2017, 12:07:38 PM
#14
Hello Pipols of Bitcointalk!!!

At avsbsports.eu we have many passions. We love gambling, we love games, we love sports, we love leveling up, we love learning and we love sharing that knowledge.

Thus, we ask you: What advice would you give to a novice gambler to help them "Level Up"? We will take your input and add it to our Newbies sections.

Thank You!



There's no other way to "level up" in gambling but to make your bet higher. Gambling is all about having balls and being low inhibition and taking big risks. Want to level up? then raise your bet, if you don't want to take higher risks you can't level up.

Of course, im not condoning taking mindless risks but that's how it is.
I think the op is talking about an internal ranking system in their website, think about it the same way the ranking system works in bitcointalk, if you want to rank up in the forum you need to follow the rules and being active for a period of time to gain a new rank in the forum, so I think he is asking for ways to improve the ranking system on his website.

Not to get existential on you, but does life imitate art or does art imitate life? We have an in-house ladder system, but the purpose of that system is to create a path for users to follow. We want that path to be as positive as possible for our clients, specifically those with the least experience. If a 20 year gambling vet comes to us and says "I want to place a wager for X" we will take it with a smile and pay out quickly if they win. It is what we do. The question is, how do you help someone that has never done this before?

Our Gameification Experience is meant to be a ladder system for people that maybe are not as experienced as others. Almost by definition, anybody posting here is in the small 1% of the gambling population. There are centuries of collective experience in these forums, so we thought we'd ask for your input.

There are things you do differently today than you did on your first day. If you could go back and tell yourself something beyond "Don't bet on the Lakers in the finals vs the Pistons", what would it be? What have you learned? What should we teach n00bs just coming into this area if our intent is for them to have fun?

Again, Thanks to all of you for the input!
hero member
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June 08, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
#13
Hello Pipols of Bitcointalk!!!

At avsbsports.eu we have many passions. We love gambling, we love games, we love sports, we love leveling up, we love learning and we love sharing that knowledge.

Thus, we ask you: What advice would you give to a novice gambler to help them "Level Up"? We will take your input and add it to our Newbies sections.

Thank You!



There's no other way to "level up" in gambling but to make your bet higher. Gambling is all about having balls and being low inhibition and taking big risks. Want to level up? then raise your bet, if you don't want to take higher risks you can't level up.

Of course, im not condoning taking mindless risks but that's how it is.
I think the op is talking about an internal ranking system in their website, think about it the same way the ranking system works in bitcointalk, if you want to rank up in the forum you need to follow the rules and being active for a period of time to gain a new rank in the forum, so I think he is asking for ways to improve the ranking system on his website.
newbie
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June 08, 2017, 11:43:27 AM
#12
You don't. In gambling, everybody has only one level. There is really no point in getting a lot of experience in it as the changes are basically the same across the board.

So "leveling up" is basically a stupid concept in the world of gambling.

Exactly, if you have the mindset of leveling up right from the onset then I bet you'll never be successful at gambling. It can even land you in serious addiction if care is not taken so I will suggested you be as modest as possible before you gamble and never imagine leveling up.

The OP are pertaining to become experienced gambling on his word of "leveling up" and you misunderstood it by thinking that it is the level up concept on a video game.

Leveling up or being an experienced gambler is existing on gambling world. It will take time and money in able to learn and experience different kind of situation that will help to level up your gambling skills.

It's still stupid to think that if you get experience in gambling then you will win more money or you would end up profiting every time in the end. Regardless if you spend 10 years gambling, the results will be the same as before when you roll the dice. It's still random as fuck. Being experienced has nothing to do with gambling unless you are playing skill based games like poker and sports betting.



***bows to michkima for pointing out the core difference between skill based and non-skill based betting***


So it turns out we had the wrong question... thank you for pointing it out. In our heads, we were going for "how do you explain to a n00b sports gambler how to level up?" and ended up causing a metaphysical debate. Having said that... how would you explain to n00b skilled game gamblers how to level up?

michkima: Send a Personal Message to this account, and we will give you a promo code for a small no-deposit bonus that you can use to play, or simply withdraw as you please. Thanks!
hero member
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June 08, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
#11
You don't. In gambling, everybody has only one level. There is really no point in getting a lot of experience in it as the changes are basically the same across the board.

So "leveling up" is basically a stupid concept in the world of gambling.

Exactly, if you have the mindset of leveling up right from the onset then I bet you'll never be successful at gambling. It can even land you in serious addiction if care is not taken so I will suggested you be as modest as possible before you gamble and never imagine leveling up.

The OP are pertaining to become experienced gambling on his word of "leveling up" and you misunderstood it by thinking that it is the level up concept on a video game.

Leveling up or being an experienced gambler is existing on gambling world. It will take time and money in able to learn and experience different kind of situation that will help to level up your gambling skills.

It's still stupid to think that if you get experience in gambling then you will win more money or you would end up profiting every time in the end. Regardless if you spend 10 years gambling, the results will be the same as before when you roll the dice. It's still random as fuck. Being experienced has nothing to do with gambling unless you are playing skill based games like poker and sports betting.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
June 08, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
#10
I think rewarding players to help you do things. Maybe add an option for every tweet you make you get some Satoshi like 5000 maybe ? Other ideas maybe like signature campaign directed for new members and that gives them free credits in your casino. Make the osy nice and if you want a small wage limit to withdraw. But I think you should split the pay half has wage limit the other half you can freely withdraw. Don't Make the wage limit too high. I think it would be an interesting way to bring new players in and it beats silly fwucets which help noone. Rather reward players for helping you.

Hello Zionatin

First and foremost, thanks for the feedback. As a special "first to respond" promo send a Personal Message to this account, and we will give you a promo code for a small no-deposit bonus that you can use to play, or simply withdraw as you please.

One of the very first features we built in was how to reward players for helping us through our Everyone Is An Affiliate Program. Any and all customers that are referred to our site through a direct link, a shared bet, a tweet or other kind of social network communication automatically put real money into the account of the person referring.

We have "call-out" rewards in our in-house ladder system for tweets, posts, etc, but actual financial reward comes from the automatically integrated affiliate structure, not from impressions.

When you mention wage limit... do you mean rollover? As in, how many times you have to wager the money in accordance to the bonus received? We do have special low-rollover promos for VIPs and for special ocasions (Hint: big-game-days), and we always look for ways of decreasing our rollover multipliers. Maybe you can suggest ways in which we can safely do this.

Again, thank you for your feedback. We agree 100% that customer integration is the key and have provided structures for rewarding players for helping us. We also know there is always room for improvement. So any suggestions are appreciated.

legendary
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June 08, 2017, 10:56:22 AM
#9
You don't. In gambling, everybody has only one level. There is really no point in getting a lot of experience in it as the changes are basically the same across the board.

So "leveling up" is basically a stupid concept in the world of gambling.

Exactly, if you have the mindset of leveling up right from the onset then I bet you'll never be successful at gambling. It can even land you in serious addiction if care is not taken so I will suggested you be as modest as possible before you gamble and never imagine leveling up.

The OP are pertaining to become experienced gambling on his word of "leveling up" and you misunderstood it by thinking that it is the level up concept on a video game.

Leveling up or being an experienced gambler is existing on gambling world. It will take time and money in able to learn and experience different kind of situation that will help to level up your gambling skills.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1006
June 08, 2017, 10:33:14 AM
#8
There are few things that I would like to add up:
1. Never trust any new gambling platform.
2. Go through faq pages to find out whether site provide probably fair games and way to verify those results or not.
3. Don't deposit more than you can afford to loss.
4. Set targets for both loss and win, so that you can exit at perfect time.
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