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sr. member
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August 20, 2016, 11:58:07 PM
#88
I guess they profit via ads. But xapo and coinbase also have debit cards so maybe they are making money of the fees?
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 11:50:24 PM
#87
I don't know why you say Coinbase doesn't charge fees when they just raised their fees recently, correct me if im wrong.

Every online wallet ever charges a fee, and they make money from the traffic which may click on advertisements or may buy premium services, it's the standard online business model really.

what fees are you talking about?
i am not using coinbase but using google it seems like they use 0.25% just like any other exchange out there. and their main revenue is from exchange fees they receive and all other kinds of fee from deposit/withdrawals of fiat and crypto.
90% of online wallets are maintained through a company that has some kind of exchange service behind it on top of whatever else it has, so something like 0.25% on the exchange fee is probably fairly reasonable to be honest. With a big enough volume they can be making a ton of money, and easily maintain the wallet service, which I'm sure they're doing.
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 11:44:59 PM
#86
I don't know why you say Coinbase doesn't charge fees when they just raised their fees recently, correct me if im wrong.

Every online wallet ever charges a fee, and they make money from the traffic which may click on advertisements or may buy premium services, it's the standard online business model really.

what fees are you talking about?
i am not using coinbase but using google it seems like they use 0.25% just like any other exchange out there. and their main revenue is from exchange fees they receive and all other kinds of fee from deposit/withdrawals of fiat and crypto.
hero member
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August 20, 2016, 06:07:28 PM
#85
They use a lower fee mostly (I tried some of them before), I, too wonder how they cover that fee. I doubt they are investing the deposits or treating it like a bank but maybe they cover it as a better customer experience and from the profit they get from exchanging USD and BTC.

Well it is now obviously through their script i think they were able to discover those.  Same as how bitcoin was discovered so things may be connected. The lower the fees the provide the more people would start using their system
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
#84
I don't know why you say Coinbase doesn't charge fees when they just raised their fees recently, correct me if im wrong.

Every online wallet ever charges a fee, and they make money from the traffic which may click on advertisements or may buy premium services, it's the standard online business model really.
hero member
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August 20, 2016, 10:06:39 AM
#83
i would say that advertising is their main income but they my also have a subscription with more account options, i dont use them so wouldn't know for sure.
newbie
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August 20, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
#82
They use a lower fee mostly (I tried some of them before), I, too wonder how they cover that fee. I doubt they are investing the deposits or treating it like a bank but maybe they cover it as a better customer experience and from the profit they get from exchanging USD and BTC.
hero member
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August 20, 2016, 07:38:43 AM
#81
Blockchain has news as well ads you can see them at home i remember to be there the btcjam last year now its bitbond a loan system, about coinbase i dont know, if they dont sell those space they promote and earn the comission from the people who invest.
sr. member
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August 20, 2016, 07:07:48 AM
#80
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.
Coinbase and Xapo wallets do not have ads in their sites so that is not it.
These sites are both wallets and exchangers themselves so from that information, they survive and successful in their business most probably from the earnings they get from selling/buying bitcoins.

They probably doing trading with our coins. haha
sr. member
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August 15, 2016, 12:06:52 PM
#79
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.
Coinbase and Xapo wallets do not have ads in their sites so that is not it.
These sites are both wallets and exchangers themselves so from that information, they survive and successful in their business most probably from the earnings they get from selling/buying bitcoins.
Exactly chief that's the main reason why they survive how many peoples who buy and sell bitcoins and they just get a small bit as a payment but even that small exchange they already have a profit .
legendary
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August 15, 2016, 12:00:49 AM
#78
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.
Coinbase and Xapo wallets do not have ads in their sites so that is not it.
These sites are both wallets and exchangers themselves so from that information, they survive and successful in their business most probably from the earnings they get from selling/buying bitcoins.
hero member
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August 14, 2016, 02:34:17 PM
#77
That is a good question actually, but it is same like with all faucet websites- they are still alive, thanks to the advertisers, and people
 that want to enter in there.
However doing btc wallet that earn only on ads looks hard for me, i mean to have enough users to cover the fees.
Have you ever thought how much user uses these wallet?
Even a single ads with such a high traffic can gain you enough amount of money.
hero member
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August 14, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
#76
There are two reason of survival.
1.buying and selling bitcoin have a great profit.
2.the amount of website you used or view ,they are directly earning through it.
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
#75
That is a good question actually, but it is same like with all faucet websites- they are still alive, thanks to the advertisers, and people
that want to enter in there.

what's in the back of the mind of the properly run operators like coinbase is the prospect of being bought out I expect. that's what vc money dreams about.

a bitcoin company, and bitcoin itself of course, has to work seriously, seriously hard to earn trust. if coinbase ended up with 50-100 million or more users who've spent years with them that adds massive value if someone wants to buy them.

it's not like switching to a new social media site. people often stick with the same bank their whole lives even when they're crappy. the same might go for bitcoin service companies.
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 11:35:21 AM
#74
I notice too how xapo are still alive as of now how they are paying the fee's for transaction how that site are earnings with their service..
Coinbase in not the same as xapo because coinbase has their own exchange page that you can buy an sell altcoin or bitcoin.
I use xapo before but i having delayed in loging in to receive confirmation its always happenning.
hero member
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August 14, 2016, 11:32:13 AM
#73
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.

open up a link to a bitcoin "transaction" and you will see two big pictures at the bottom of the page those are advertisement.

also i have not seen the new version but in the old version of the wallet in your home page of the wallet you could see multiple links to services like gyft on the upper right side of the screen these are also ads.
sr. member
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August 14, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
#72
That is a good question actually, but it is same like with all faucet websites- they are still alive, thanks to the advertisers, and people
 that want to enter in there.
However doing btc wallet that earn only on ads looks hard for me, i mean to have enough users to cover the fees.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1007
August 14, 2016, 11:28:53 AM
#71
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
As it's been said, there are sponsors, premium features or whatever (some sort of advanced service for certain people), and Xapo and Coinbase are an exchange as well as a wallet, so they make money off of people exchanging Bitcoin and USD on their site. Having a wallet there is just a plus, and something to keep people using them.

Plus transaction fees are typically pennies, so it doesn't really matter.
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 11:21:46 AM
#70
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !

They charge pretty good for people that want to exchange bitcoin there, they have some fees when you deposit money there or when to buy bitcoin and also a fee when you want to withdraw your funds so pretty much their profit is here.
hero member
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August 14, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
#69
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.
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