Topic: How do you imagine ideal society? - page 2. (Read 586 times)

Corruption. I mean in my ideal society I hope there is no corruption there are so many people that have no job because of this corruption in the government. Transparency of financial of society that is more effective when they do this, almost everyone will be in peace knowing that they know where the money spend.

That would be ideal but not real...
This way it can't work because someone will have to search for food or water and at least fulfill the basic needs of the people that live in this society.
From the time that there is a need, then the sense of belonging start to exist.

I agree with you that this would be the best society to live in, but it could be never true.

Well an ideal society is very difficult to achieve or form because for the ideal society you have to look every person suggestion and their decisions should not affect the others. But sometimes it is a very difficult process to establish an ideal because you can not make happy everyone, their are few things that some will understand and some would not. all have their own reasons for the rejection of the society decision.

But if some one have the potential to overcome all the problems then that would definitely be the ideal society.

What I've realized now is there is no ideal society. You cannot make anyone happy. If there's total peace and prosperity, people would start creating bigger problems that may destroy the entire society. So the authorities needs distractions to make people contained. Let them fight as rich and poor, let them fight for religion and color, Let them fight for their favorite player or their favorite superhero. If there's not much issues, create some. Kill some innocent or fund some terrorist.

Well beside bitcoin that is helping people the same time as altcoin, that I could wish this will be the only currency running.

Focusing and speaking for bitcoin who actually ask as an main currency that could and bonus value today that increase its value and sadly decrease any time. Knowing  Bitcoin itself is now part of making tracsaction paying for some of the peoples everyday lives.

In other words I one of my ideal is that bitcoin would be a second currency to every city and country because of a more sweep tracsaction especially online and when your on the go you can just use bitcoin by a e transaction through your cellphone.

2nd is making this place every country a safer one out fro  the killings and corruptions from others and as well as the government of today. Sharing this everything today and before this modern era is and was in a cycle, a repetition the killings/people who die because of a certian group who is againts or any scenario that happend in the war of every country.

Let me tell you a bit about the problems of an imperfect society first.

I have a very fortunate opportunity to live in a place called Kolkata. I was born here and I have been residing here for the past 28 years of my existence.

But there has been little to no development in this place in a so called 'developing country' that is supposed to be the potential superpower of the future.

A simple gust of wind gets categorized as a storm and it disconnects our power supply.
A simple stone pelted at the wrong direction incites a communal riot whose basis is religion. That's right! We're in 2019 and still fighting over who has the best imaginary friend living in the clouds.

There are real life versions of people like Baddecker who have all the money and influence that comes with it - and with that power, they shape our society where the rich continue getting richer and the poor keeps struggling.

An ideal society? Give me a society that has solved these basic issues, that'd be a long shot from being ideal but it'll be far better than what the reality is right now.

The ideal society for me is that there will be one leader to rule the entire country.

And that guy should have the political will and care to his people. His attitude should be no one should be left behind. But thinking of the 'ideal' society seems to be a fairy tale for me. I've seen good leaders but people aren't even cooperating and that ideal society can't even exist because of few people that don't want an ideal one.

Does not matter because what makes me happy might not make other happy.


You remind me of one of the scripture saying and gist of message is as follows.

Q: What work should I do?
A: Before doing any work, you should ask yourself whether your work will help the society? If answer is "Yes" then you should do that work if answer is no, then you should  check  whether it hill help your family?If answer is "Yes" then you should do that work if answer is no, them see if it benefits you?

Any work that is negatively impacting the society and family should not be undertaken at all.

(I do not know exact words, but the idea is from book Bhagwad gita.)

I think the ideal society for me is a society with a good leader and good followers. Being a leader for me is in the meaning of being a kind leader and equal to his followers. Even though the people could follow him all the time, he must make sure not to take advantage of his society for society to follow him and won't have a rebellion to him. An ideal society means a great hierarchy with a great vision.

An ideal society is one where the security of life and properties are guaranteed and there is an enabling environment for citizens to explore and develop in any project there want. Where the economy is stable without an inflation or economic crisis and also were the government provide the necessary social amenities for citizens.

I like this idea, except people want a sense of belonging. That is why we create value out of necessity. Maybe I can give an example: I want to sell some shiny rocks I found, because I think someone would value the time I took to find them and polish them. I need to weigh that time and effort against something everyone agrees on has value, which in my example I will say is BTC.

If anyone wants some they are listed in the goods section by the way.

So, ideal society is society where everybody are happy?
What is your definition of happiness?
Do you think that we can be happy only with material things or when our personal desires are fulfilled?
It seems that you are talking about personal happiness only here but what about happiness in society or in the world?
Don't you think that we should have some common, national goals as well?

Ideal society would be no society. Where there would be no sense of belonging. There would be no countries and no citizenship. No people, just men and women.

Clear leadership with best people can be the ideal society, unfortunately we can't say any country in this world is ideal because everywhere there is different problems due to personal benefit, religional clauses,fight for the leadership and so on.

And if you read science then you will find that no ideal system exist practically. All ideal system are just theoretical concepts so same will apply to ideal society.

In theory, an ideal society is society where everybody is happy, stress free,disease free and able to do thing according to their own wishes.

I think there should be few fulfilled conditions:
1. rich country/society with very small amount of poor people and if sb has problems in his situation there are very easy options to make it better
2. medicine with options for people to become nearly immortal with very low cost
3. very low taxes and simple law which can help for economic grow and technological development

If you read Bible it seems that we only in the beginning of human history had ideal society, without borders, different languages, cultures, traditions etc.
There are only one way to achieve ideal society again.
We should accept God as our common, universal Parent and realized that we are all brothers and sisters, children from the same Father.
I don't think that politicians can unite us and create ideal society.
Even different religions can't do it, but only God's love can bring us together.

Justice, mercy,  and good did are the three foundations of an idea society and that is the imagination I hold concerning my idea society . We would have peace when there is justice and prosperity through good did and by mercy there will be equality.

Hmm. For me it would have to be to take all the good things from the society that we have and mesh it into one functioning society.

For example I don't want people dying on the streets so for the people that are unemployed and don't want to work then I'd make sure they earn enough to live on - but on the flipside I'd also like for those that want to work 90 hours weeks and churn in the money like wild to be able to do so too. That way we have the good parts of everything.

You ask how I would fund this? Easy, get rid of needless government services. Scrape back government to a voluntary, not-for-profit civic duty that everyone has to participate in at some point in their lives so that it survives. That way it functions without people making a career out of it. Scrap lobbying, scrap any sort of financial incentives that involve the decision making in any country. Make Politics about the good of the nation and not about the deep pockets of Politicans and how far they will sell their souls to get their pockets deep.

Scrap any sort of centralisation. Banking? Out with it. No-one needs bankers. Fuck 'em. People should learn to manage their money.

And now I hear you rolling your eyes - but the people will never be able to do that.

Hell they would. Start with the youth. Educate them on responsibility and accountability. Stop them high tailing it to a government official anytime something minute goes wrong in their lives. Teach them self-respect, ownership, all that sort of stuff.

Okay, Police are needed, but not for things we've brought on ourselves.

well for an average human its the developed socialsit society

for a capitalist its the society that gives to you the capitalist all the power and all the money and financial controll.

since capitalist want societies at the expense of others you will never get a society that makes everyone happy.

regards