Topic: How does total time logged in count? (Read 439 times)

Yeah that's what I was referring to. So even after 10 years or 5 years, a user might have less logged in time compared to a newer user. And this is also true, vise versa. So, the actual time isn't the main factor here on bitcointalk but something else, such as cookies or network changes, or how often one reloads or changes a page.

Because for me, what I have observed is that I have much higher logged in time compared to other users of my time (I think). Because  I constantly go from one thread to another. Scrolling through pages. Making comments or clicking the preview button. Even if I don't directly interact, I am active whenever I have time. That's why. 

Right now:

But, I'm not one of the users with the longest login time. There are users younger than me who will have more time logging in.

Despite having joined the forum in 2013, I had a period between 2015-2017 and 2018-2020, a little further away, so I ended up not having more time to log in than I should have.

There isn't anything to cheat. Total logged in time doesn't have any purpose at all. The only way I might use this is as a trophy or achievements. Apart from that I don't see any use case of this.

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You are active on this forum since 2013, I think. With 10 years, you have had 100+ days of logged in time, where I have,
in just 5 months (At the moment of my writing)... Wow..

If forum members can cheat the logged in time, what is benefit they get with their cheating?

Because they will not get any benefit by cheating this, they will not waste their time to do this.

I don't know who is /are behind this.

I know theymos announced the merit system but I don't know he is a single person who made the merit system. He asked for idea from community to improve post quality.

Ideas for improving post quality?

theymos codes the forum and merit system but it's fair enough to say there are many brains behind merit system.

wow! That's great.

I kind if like the way the system here works in such a manner that you cant easily cheat any system. If it's just a function of how long your data is on, I guess must people would have be active for a decade but by using index like this, it's easy to know who is an active member or not.

The same goes to the merit systems that had played a huge rule in ensuring that quality is maintained in the forum, kudos to the brain behind these.

Yes, like you, I believe it's the activity, but you first got me worried when I read the activity, I mistook it for the activity reading of the forum which counts every 14 days..lol.

But really, I have thought about this thoroughly, it's a matter of the user's activities to be candid. But the analogy of the frequent login and in a year amounting to a 20-hour history is not so tally, the forum reads it differently as it reads users activeness on the forum, not the entire activity. This explains why users why two users who log in frequently throughout the year will not have the same activity count. This is because what we often see as the activity count is actually not, you can note this especially when you are on a topic for a long time, you might think it counts as an active session, but no, it might have stopped counting.

What I suspect is that the system has an internal counter that keeps you in an active session or otherwise even if you are still active on the forum, and my experience, the session timer of topics/sessions varies. A good way to know this is when you are typing a topic that has much body, and you have typed so much even as you make corrections. When you eventually click "send," the system might say you are not in an active session due to time out. The system must have timed you out in that process. This is even as you were typing and still active on the forum, the system no longer recognised that anymore and will not count it for you. This is one of the disparities about this active session of a thing, it's good we consider it.

I strongly believe it works that way as it only accounts for activity time and not login time. If not, why will an account that frequently login in for a whole year have less than 20 hours as it's time when it's literally online the whole day.

It's activities that's counts and not login time even though it is counted as total logged in time on our pages.

Well, here's what I think about it. I am not sure if this is correct but I think it's about being active or in other words how long your account is active or the total time your account is online. I don't see or know anything specific that will surely answer or prove my answer. I have been on the forum for more than a year and yet my total time log in didn't even reach one year or even half a year. I am also curious on how this is counted since no one asked about this until now. About opening it and leave when you open a new tab, I think it doesn't count or more like AFK if it's in game.

Log in time will increase if you keep an eye on the forum. Because once you leave the Bitcoin forum and go to YouTube or Facebook, 15 minutes will be added to your login time.
After that the bitcoin forum will be closed until it returns.

Even I thought it worked like that but it doesn't. To check your theory I even tried to test it myself. I had a tab open a whole night to check whether my total active time would increase or not. Unfortunately it didn't (for me). I think how it works is, when we go from one board or another, when we activity tab certain buttons that's when the time starts to count. If you keep on scrolling it will increase but not before that. 

Are you saying that you have been online since 2012 without logging out for a day,🤔 no going out or even if you do go out you're always on? Let's say without any power outage?
This is something new, like how did you do that?
487 days 7hrs and a month is really a very long period of time to be online without any glitch, I need to know the secret about this.

I'm at 40 days 1hr 25 mins.

I've never thought about how it worked till seeing this post.

This is my favorite/only forum these days.

It makes no difference if the total time you have logged in to the forum is big, it does not add to your forum rank. The total time shows you just how long you have been active on the forum despite knowing the forum.

Your concern should not be about the time logged in, but what you have learnt within that time and also how you have contributed for good to the forum within that time.

Now I have:

You ask, if I only had 2 hours on the forum since the previous post? Well, overall, if you add up all the time, it must have been more or less that.

I will agree that it is unsubstantial and maybe it should be removed to help lighten the load time of the website. No wonder no one else sees the number of logging time except the user himself. It's high time everyone disregard it.

I don’t think that any of us really know exactly how it works in the details, other than being aware that it counts time in some way related to the web page requests made (loading a page, searching, meriting or whatever that interacts with a petition to the server). The number per se is rather unsubstantial, and is merely informative I’d say.

There was a point in time, round the time Activity was introduced, that some people suggested to use the total time logged in as a factor, but Theymos discarded the idea due to the counter being very easy to manipulate.

Some related threads:
Statistics Center. What type of Bitcoin ID it is?
The curious case of forum's most online users
Total time logged in" bug and accounts with long time logged in
The forum stats are wrong! @theymos check it out,please.
Most time online list, is it a bug?

There are several ways that the forum can use to count login time. If there is nothing specific, I believe it is based on the information in the browser cookie.

But, let's do a little test, when I made this post I had:

Do you mean that if I am logged in, read posts only and log out for complete 1year, I will not have any rating of number of days logged in?
It means I need to post, quote someone, send merit before logged in days could count?

I have about 50+ days and I am not sure I have completely understood what that works and how it helps forum itself. I mean merit and activity for ranking. What does number of logged in days do?

Yeah I guess I could open my account in Chrome Safari Edge Firefox and tack on time like mad. But I don't.


I usually am logged in on three devices an iPad and 2 Mac minis. But they normally would all be the same browser.  Being doing it that way for a long time.

I expected it to be longer based on HTTP requests. Perhaps since you have been added to the white list, the time has decreased significantly.
I noticed that time increases dramatically when I open several pages one after another.
In general, no one seems to care about these numbers, otherwise some would try to increase them.

You are right, it all depends on how active the person is, the activity however is too technical to calculate, which is where many might be making mistakes. I read through what others have narrated and I realized that there are slight differences in response to how this activity is being calculated. The only thing that is sure is that once you are active, then the counter continues to accord that for you. I mean refreshing and surfing the forum actively, not just typing.



The counter might also stop counting in a situation as shown above despite the person is still active on the webpage. This often happens to me mostly when I have a lot to type.

That's very possible, or maybe the way of calculating has changed over time. I'm not sure but this is just based on some tests I have done a very long time ago by the way. It's not something the administration mentioned.

I actually think I also had a bot running at some point, and it did show 24 hours as logged-in time, after 24 hours of running the bot and visiting pages every few seconds, but again, I could be mistaken.

LoyceBot has only 15 days "time logged in", which should be a lot more based on your description.
Meanwhile, forum stats show 10 users who are logged in for more than 60 years.
So my conclusion is: it's flawed. It could just as well be removed. Most of the "record holders" above created their account close together, and stopped being active around the same time. It looks like some people are just spamming the server for holding the record.

I was thinking that the amount of time one spent online show how it's being calculated maybe if someone login online and spent 2hr to 5hrs it's being counted and if someone went offline, when they comes back online again the total amount they spent online are being counted and added to the previous time they were online summing up the total days and time they logged on. Although @OmegaStarScream explanation seems very much understandable.

Is this the way it is calculated here? I think I saw the total time logged for some accounts more than the period of time since the date the account was created, and the reason may be because those accounts request HTTP request resends quickly.


I've seen in the past some people hide their dates but you spend a lot of time here, my time is 200 days.

To have login time counted, you will have to actively use the forum. Actively means opening page, read and do some actively activities. Opening a thread, and leave it there 24 hours does not mean you are actively using the forum for 24 hours.

I don't know the formula to count login time and it seems the answer from one of forum moderators, OmegaStarScream is the best you can have.

I have 87 days, 6 hours and 57 minutes with my account. Not impressive but not too little.

As long as you keep an eye on the forum, the login time will be added, but if you move to another page, the login time will not be added to your original time. Because it is basically a matter of being active in the forum, except for 15 minutes and longer if you are inactive. If there is, the time will not be calculated later. I have seen that if I start watching YouTube after being active in the forum then the total is added to 15 minutes, but the next time is not added, again if I am active in the forum then again the time is added to the login time.

Some contributors declare that the active time is calculated to be less, than the online session on their device because they close the tab, including me, I have just reached a count of tens of days in cumulative bitcointalk web open sessions, the same as browsing a web, even if it is limited to reading topics, at first I just thought that what was counted was the time to make a post, I didn't pay attention because I read so often on the forum every time I had free time, this is interesting.

I opened your link and was redirected to the newer SMF webpage, but my eye comfort is still comfortable and pleasant to look at in this forum (old version of SMF), more friendly and less painful.

I see, actively logging in on bitcointalk is the right thing to do.

Thanks for this clarification, because I have also thought that it is better for be to stay login on my device so that I have a more hoots added to the number of fays that shows on my profile but I found out that the hours are not increasing and that was when I came to conclusion that it must be active hours that counts and not just staying online without being active. In this way forum members will not be able to outsmart their active time in the forum by using their inactive time as an opportunity to increase their number of days of activeness.

That's quite interesting to know because I guess that you and only a few other members may have that many logged in days on this forum. Most of the members of the forum haven't even completed their 100th logged in day and only a few have completed their 365 logged in days.

Is it possible for others to see your logged in days or only you can see that? If I'm not wrong then the administrators or moderators might be able to see the users logged in time. Are third-party sites like BPIP.org, or Loyce.club or Ninjastic.space can determine the exact logged time or those sites are unable to determine those things?

yeah I never ever ever log out unless there is a power outage I have been logged on since aug 2012 which is about 11 years 3 months.  I think my log in time listed is 500 days.

I am at ::

Total time logged in: 487 days, 7 hours and 1 minutes.

about 16 months time.

Yes, that should be the case if my memory serves me correctly.

That's interesting. I was curious to know how exactly total time logged in is calculated, but never seen thread where it's explained well. So, as I understand, if I would open Bitcointalk and would leave tab with it open without doing anything, while on other tab I would start watching Youtube videos for more than 1 hour for example, then only 15 minutes would add to my my total time logged in?

It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum. The referenced post indicates that your’re not really logged into the forum on a constant basis, but rather every HTTP request resends information that reauthenticates you, allowing SMF to make some assumptions to derive the cumulative time your session has been logged-in, so as to say, based on the interval of time between requests (some shorter interval lengths lead SMF to assume you are still logged-in, whilst other longer intervals do the opposite).

Yes Omega is right it is when you are actively moving login and engaging or opening one thread to another is the time calculated. Having your account on a tab doesn’t mean it is login, when you leave a tab on a browse it almost as though you’re not online and when you come back you will have to reload it to see changes.

Example is when you open a thread on this forum and leave the tab and go to another one when you come back to it you will see the same thing (last post) you left but when you reload it then new replies will appear that means you’re now logged in.

Another example is when you set the time for you account to automatically logged out and you close the tab and come back after that time has surpassed you might still see the account login as you left it but once you reload it then it will log you out and require login details

If I remember things correctly (someone corrects me if I'm wrong), it's whenever you're active.

So, let's say you're logged in, and then you visit a page, you are then considered "active" for the next 15 minutes and that's counted towards your logged-in hours. If you visit another page after 5 minutes only, then it'll start recounting after those five minutes which would make your logged-in hours 20 minutes.

Let’s say I remain logged in to my Bitcointalk account on a separate tab of my browser that I’m using. Then I minimize it when I’m doing other things with my computer, does still count or only the time when I browse the forum or remain my screen on Bitcointalk?

I just notice that my total time logged in is still very low despite I’m always online because I leave my browser open almost 24hrs in my company computer while my account is still login.