Topic: Ideas for improving post quality? (Read 4863 times)

Any member who is serious enough with the account he is creating here should spend enough time learning the rules first. There can be options added like making the users read all the rules at the time of sign up but people just click " I have read all the rules"  and thus it will not be effective.

It is hard to distinguish between members breaking rules because they were new or unaware of the rules and ones who are doing this intentionally for some benefit. We may create a requirement for members to make an introduction here before posting anything and there others can suggest him the links to rules.

Because for the first time they join the forum, they will be prompted in the main page which contains all the sections of the forum which for them is very confusing, and contains a lot of information to be taken in for their fist time (unless its an alt account, there's no problem).

If you didn't find all sorts of rules that are implemented in the forum, you can find all of them in here:
Beginners and Help

But, this thread is straight to the point: Newbies - Read before posting


Well I though that has the same search engine as google. I tried to search and words that are closer to what you want to find just pops up, but not entirely the exact thing you wanted.

Because they are good in English. If some unfamiliar words pop up and you don't seem to understand, then just search for it (you have internet for God's sake). Your lack of familiarity to those words are not their fault, its yours, you lack the knowledge in understanding it. English being not your mother tongue is not an excuse.

Honestly, its easy to understand, just improve your vocabulary and grammar and you'll be able to comprehend what's that person is saying.

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He's obviously trolling you. LOL  


If most of the members would only realize it. I mean, if they would just read first, be familiarized in the forum and what is the forum all about, it could significantly reduce spam replies.

It's hard to compose a good quality post, for me it takes almost 15 minutes after posting I reviewed not twice but thrice before I click the post. Although English is not the native language we are just trying hard to learn more in English speaking here in the forum, that's right mate just look the others post or read better the OP statement before you comment.
Keep always reading here in a forum and learned a lot in every section here.

Take time to read the posts of Higher members, their projection pattern and discussions and act likewise

Yeah, some people using very unfamiliar words just to say that they are good in english, which is not required to do, what important is try to construct an answer that is easy to understand but it should be informative also.

Does not seem to be working. Your post that I have quoted contains those words but it still looks like shit post. Try other variations next time.


I think the members should spend more time on reading first. This alone will solve most of the problems. Especially, the members who are replying in meta section need to be aware of the latest rules here. Then only can they can give appropriate replies to the questions being asked by new members.

You should have quality posts and for that you need to have enormous venture in btc world

1) agree to this, it is irritating to see the same questions being asked again and again. Most common question is "How can I get merit". Even if you tell them the answer, they do not follow the advice and keep making shit posts. Just one change is needed to reduce this- official thread about merit system should be made sticky.

2) That is the common issue with most of the forums as they use the default forum software search. You can try searching for information using Google and mention bitcointalk.org at end of the keyword.

Though this kind of constructing post do not work out these days(it don't really work but sometimes it is). You must be really knowledgeable not only someone that is expressing your heart, that is just like expressing your emotions and not expressing what you really know.

If you want to improve your post quality, you need a massive information in order for you to give opinions to other members about a certain topic. Reading is the best way to improve our posts, Heart is good to be expressed to your loved ones but not in this forum. Members need knowledge, the reason this site called a forum.

Read first what is the topic all about. Reply what is really in your heart...express it through a good grammar and quality post. Select word which is common and do not used unfamiliar word. Just be your self in answering the topic.

I'm not sure about you being allowed to insert GIF, but care to review this.

Signature Restrictions

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Is this supposed to be a sarcastic answer or you're just being stupid?


This is the reason why people like you exists in this forum, you're one of those people thought that spamming posts would earn Merit in the long run. But no, in truth you don't understand the Merit System even in a bit.

Work on improving your self to make quality posts and not like this kind of post that means nothing and can only be considered as a spam post, that is obviously not contributing anything to the forum.

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Being yourself, expressing what's in your heart is not enough. Even if you use good grammar that makes it a quality post its still not gonna do the job. The most important element you need is knowledge, if you have the information about the topic you can easily say what is needed.

Write the words "quality post" and post it and Voila! You have created a quality post LOL

The main flaw of the ranks is to have focused exclusively on the activity of the users since having a lot of activity doesn't imply that you publish a lot of quality content. In this way, you are encouraging the publication of a lot of content instead of the publication of quality content.
 
Now that you have implemented the merit system, I would harden as much as possible the requirements for obtaining new ranks by increasing the requirements of merit. For this, you should configure the sources of merit so that they encourage the creation of good content and, in my opinion, also giving priority to other users giving you merit (similar to a +1 system, as mentioned above). During the configuration, you must take into account which sources can be exploited automatically with bots and which ones can not and you will have to maintain a good balance so that the ranks are obtainable but without it being very easy.

Then, the signatures and other additions in the upper ranks would be the reward for good behaviour and for contributing to the forum. Those who want to earn money with signature campaigns should be useful to the forum and contribute, otherwise, the purpose of the forum is completely distorted and it becomes a money-making machine.

Integrating the changes I mentioned above wouldn't require removing them and would be a less abrupt change for the community. I'm curious about how you would implement it to differentiate between users who participate in a signature campaign and those who don't.

This should be banned and prosecuted. Many here say that it wouldn't solve anything because, in the end, the sales of accounts would move to other forums. But it's a question of authority and common sense: don't allow in this forum activities that are not wanted.

This would be too tedious and wouldn't solve anything: either the restrictions to vote are very soft and the system can be abused, or the restrictions to vote are very high and this becomes an oligarchy. In addition, the "prize" doesn't have to be BTC, it has to be a common incentive that shows the appreciation that the forum makes of the user, without the prize being succulent enough to be worth automating.

This would be just a patch, users would stop spamming in those forums but wouldn't cause users to participate in them to create quality content. They could continue to be used to increase activity.

Same error as before: a high rank doesn't imply (currently at least) that you post quality content. It would be an entry barrier to the forum and, if widely used, would increase account sales in order to participate in those threads.

If you make signatures and be able to participate in signature campaigns to become a prize, it would take away the advantages of the effort made to achieve it. Also, it wouldn't be necessary because only good content creators and contributors would have access to them.

Maybe at the beginning it will be quite restrictive, but it will make the forum grow healthy.

Now I can smell it 

I have some suggestions for making a good quality post.
As a jr.member I know I have to make constructive posts and for that I make sure that my posts do not contain any irrelevant things like repeating the question many times or any extra lines unrelated to the topic.
The most important advice would be that do not copy anyone's posts or ideas , that is not going to help.
The new Merit system is great for getting good quality posts.

Disabling account features due to an IP change or due to a lack of activity would be pretty harsh on users. About the IP based restrictions, people who either using VPNs, Proxies or Tor (I personally use Tor and Cloudflare and Google's reCaptcha already make logging into the forum hell, heck I had to pay to be able to post here thanks to the entire evil IP system.) Any more restrictions due to IP address would probably make legitimate members of this forum quit.

As for the post count decreasing there can be several reasons anyone can not posts much. Life being busier than usual is one of the commonest reasons. Not to mention a fall in overall interest (possibly due to the drop in quality of the posts) can reduce post count too.

I am not in favor of making too much restrictions on the members. When you start punishing users with 1 week ban for 1 shitpost, they will simple leave the forum unless they have some important purpose to be here. On the other hand something like merit system is more on the side of rewards. This means that members not able to get merits here can still post here and use other functions like PM. They will thus keep using the forum and we do not want them to go away or join alternative forums. Regarding that IP ban, that is not practical because of the reason you mentioned.

You gave a really nice suggestion but you know the spammers are quite smart these days. Here are some possible issues with this solution:

1) Regarding IP country change, there are tools to manipulate this. One can use proxy or VPN to show the IP of the country from where account was created. This is  a common practice for accessing purchased accounts of all kinds like Facebook accounts.

2) Regarding post number decreasing, this is a good way to find such accounts. But we will also have to consider the fact that some of the users might not be able be post from their account due to sudden busy schedule.

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