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legendary
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign

Just like every other thing, there are good and bad sides to signature campaign since it introduction to the forum, I wasn't here before signature campaign got introduced but I was around when it become more popular and the good thing I noticed is that it help improved many users quality but also the spams were in their numbers but still many users had to work on their accounts to be eligible for acceptance into campaigns and ironically it also improved the quality of discussion we got. There will always be bad eggs so lets not use them to disqualify the impact signature campaign has brought to the forum.

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IShould there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Every platform out there has one way or another that they're rewarding their active users and the forum doing the same is encouraging. If the signature campaign aren't harming the forum then they don't have to end but if they're causing a nuisance and it's becoming uncontrollable then they can end it. The signature campaigns are just privileges as what is important is the discussions we're having on the forum. The forum interest should always be put first just as how theymos had to end all mixers when their presence on the forum were becoming a problem, same can be done for all signatures.
hero member
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
Only old forum members that were active then when there is no signature campaigns will answer this question proper, but we can only answer you based on the fact that we have gone through some of there post histories before the coming of signature campaigns; there are a lot of low quality posts and online posts that don’t contain most information on them. The coming of signature campaign keeps forum members active and the merit system also helps to eliminate or reduce spamming and shitpost.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Campaigns keeps man at users active, and if it all stops then definitely there will a lot of inactive users.
I don’t think it will cease because most of the companies are enjoying their partnership with the forum because they are getting customers.
hero member
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I am not enrolled in any signature campaign at the moment, and I can say for sure that you don't need to be in a campaign to be active here.
You do not need to enroll in one to be active, but you are probably not going to spend much time here if it was not incentivized either I guess.  While you are not currently enrolled in one, did you not just recently leave a Campaign (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64288169

This Forum without Signature Campaigns would be quiet yet natural, kind of boring yet a fun place to hang out for Bitcoin nerds.  Signature Campaigns are some what like paying you to go to socialization meetups with your neighbors.  I do not even know if I would like this Forum better without the Campaigns, it would likely be kind of boring considering there will be no incentive to be creative at all.
sr. member
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
I am not enrolled in any signature campaign at the moment, and I can say for sure that you don't need to be in a campaign to be active here. I have spent 4 years here and I achieved not much but I am happy that I come to learn a lot, I hope some legendary people will see my posts and by reading my posts they might have known me and that means I am getting familiarized here. Making fellows is good for knowledge. People share knowledge without any hesitation and benefit.

As I have spent much time, that's why this forum has become one of my habits and I liked my time here. A time will come when you will also like your time spending here. How? That's a mystery you have to solve. For example, ask yourself why are you here and be honest, it is not wrong to say I am here for money because the admin of the forum also said there is nothing wrong with it. We all want to make money. But if you want to learn from this forum then you have to spend a little more time because no doubt you are true about the fact that people enrolled in signature campaigns are making it hard for others to finds valuable posts that can really guide us. But If I were you, I would be spending more time in beginners and help section because it consists of valuable data.
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?



To note, I am new here, but someoe can imagine how the forum worked..! Psychologically and through the education by those who has been here before campaign era
As it seems, the forum is like other online areas, it becomes obvious how the forum was... It is obviously true
That the forum wasn't as active as of now...
And when say campaign, you are invariably talking about converting BTC...
 T hese this with human mindset one can deduse how the forum will be.  very much scanty?

hero member
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I know this forum for more than a decade now, though my current account is way younger. My main interest here is Bitcoin and to learn from and engage in topics about Bitcoin in particular and crypto coins in general with users with far more experience or knowledge.

For the majority of time in this forum I didn't care much about signature campaigns, those were simply not my focus. Being in one, I see as a bonus, not my main goal. Yes, I post more now than in the past before I joined a sig campaign. I have my own basic quality standards for posting and I want to stay true to myself.

When campaign sponsors and maintainers mandate a certain minimum level of quality, it's for the better of the forum, at least in theory.

What would change for me if I would drop out of sig campaigns or campaigns cease to be available anymore? I would still visit and participate in this forum, likely post somewhat less than now, but other than that, not much would change from my perspective and willingness to engage here.
legendary
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Without the signature seems the forum will be very subtle like people doing a spam chat, or just an answer and question well the forum is now growing people now having a problem, thoughts and experience that they can share so other forum members relate to this and they exchange information even without the signature. Of course with the signature people need to require a number of post if they want to get paid with the campaign also they can back posting but its different if you are getting paid to get a post. Reason why number of newly members join in the forum and one of their common question how to earn hear in forum or how to earn in bitcoin or free money.
hero member
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With or without signature campaigns forum will still the same. The only thing change will be the activity since a lot of people might decrease their participation on their discussion since there's nothing can motivate them and maybe they visit the forum only when they need something especially looking up some news or clarification on certain issues happened on certain events.

But still see great peoples especially those OG in this forum since with or without signature campaign they are promoting they are still hear sharing good insights towards which topic they are interested. We see them share valuable  discussions which a lot of people could able to learn something from them.

For those who are already active in the forum, perhaps only a reduction in discussion activity will occur. but I'm sure the old members will still be active on the forum.
what will probably be greatly reduced is the number of new members registering. I see that many people end up inviting or telling their family, friends, and co-workers to the forum because of the reason for getting money from signature campaigns or from bounties.
We can't lie to ourselves that signature and bounty campaigns do provide a special attraction for new users.
sr. member
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Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign.  I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.
Yes you are right that if Bitcointalk does not have signature campaigns people will visit site less mostly and quality of posts will go down. Campaigns give people reason to contribute to forum because they get paid. Without that many people will stop participating. We can see this already with users who were active when they were part of campaign but are now less active because they are not getting paid. Without campaigns sections for design and project management will suffer and people offering these services will get fewer jobs. Overall signature campaigns are important for keeping the forum active and full of good content.

With or without signature campaigns forum will still the same. The only thing change will be the activity since a lot of people might decrease their participation on their discussion since there's nothing can motivate them and maybe they visit the forum only when they need something especially looking up some news or clarification on certain issues happened on certain events.

But still see great peoples especially those OG in this forum since with or without signature campaign they are promoting they are still hear sharing good insights towards which topic they are interested. We see them share valuable  discussions which a lot of people could able to learn something from them.
sr. member
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Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign.  I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.
Yes you are right that if Bitcointalk does not have signature campaigns people will visit site less mostly and quality of posts will go down. Campaigns give people reason to contribute to forum because they get paid. Without that many people will stop participating. We can see this already with users who were active when they were part of campaign but are now less active because they are not getting paid. Without campaigns sections for design and project management will suffer and people offering these services will get fewer jobs. Overall signature campaigns are important for keeping the forum active and full of good content.
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As I was not part of the forum during the time that they were no signature campaign up to the time that one first came to live, one cannot really tell how the activities was by then. But during the time one has spent in the forum, one can as well imagine what the forum will look like without signature campaigns. The morale reduce significantly when a person is no longer in signature campaigns with only few coming back to post more often in order to get back to a new campaign sooner or for the likeness to the forum as a place of discussion for them.

Users without signature campaigns are sometimes more susceptible to spamming and writing low quality posts compared to those that are in campaigns. Campaigns have made to filter spam posters from good posters and also improved the wiki of posting for many users. So if today, there are no more campaigns in the forum, I just imagine how this place will look like because engagement will definitely reduce drastically.
You are right there. The forum will certainly remain but most likely, the members will be less active when it comes to posting activities. We have been used already making an income out from our post activity in the forum and suddenly it will end up vanish like thin air, even myself I can't hardly imagine it.

I don't know what's the future of signature campaigns, but if this will be the only reason why majority of the members will stay in the forum, then hopefully this will come to stay.
legendary
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I think that regardless of whether there are signature campaigns happening here on Bitcointalk, it would still be engaging and many people would still use bitcointalk. The purpose of bitcointalk was not just for signature campaigns. One example is posting in the service board about services a person can offer, like design, project management and other services. If I’m not mistaken, one of the busiest sections or boards here on bitcointalk in the past was the service section, which had many opportunities to earn, not just through signature campaigns. If you remember, there were also Twitter and Facebook campaigns that you could only apply for here on bitcointalk.

Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign.  I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?


Forum is worst when in terms of posting quality when I’m new here but signature campaign was available back then but has less rules when we talk about post quality. Signature campaign push everyone to become a better poster since it’s hard to be qualified nowadays for a spot if you don’t put effort on your post.

The effect of signature campaign is more on positive since it doesn’t tolerate spam. It’s less spam now compared before.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

But why? Signature campaign helps forum user to earn extra income especially for people who lives on 3rd world country like me.
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?


I think that forum will be terrible before establishment of signature campaign in the forum, so I know quite well that forum is something that is interactive and major motive of the establishment of forum is to transpare the knowledge of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies who has been established and the one that has not be established to be know, so in that note, we have to understand that, look at in another side, their is some people who has being has dropped signature for like two or three years but their are still in bitcointalk to learn everyday of things that's related with bitcoin.
sr. member
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I think the early members of the forum would have been in the best position to answer the question on how the forum was before signature campaigns but on a normal view, let's just be realistic because whatever we do and receive rewards it is believed that we give more concentration and energy to make sure that we keep getting such rewards so I believe that even if the forum was active in forum discussion but it can't be compared to when signature campaigns was introduced to the forum because you get to engage in forum discussion almost all day in order to meet up signature quota unlike in the past when you can decide to log in whenever you like and some people can stay for a very long time before logging in but with the introduction of signature campaigns users become more active and contributive to discussions in the forum.

However, it is important to understand that the success of any platform is determined by how productive members of such platforms are so we should engage in quality contributions even while we want to meet up post count for payments in the various signature campaigns we represent and see the payments as a form of bonus for spending time in the forum.
hero member
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As I was not part of the forum during the time that they were no signature campaign up to the time that one first came to live, one cannot really tell how the activities was by then. But during the time one has spent in the forum, one can as well imagine what the forum will look like without signature campaigns. The morale reduce significantly when a person is no longer in signature campaigns with only few coming back to post more often in order to get back to a new campaign sooner or for the likeness to the forum as a place of discussion for them.

Users without signature campaigns are sometimes more susceptible to spamming and writing low quality posts compared to those that are in campaigns. Campaigns have made to filter spam posters from good posters and also improved the wiki of posting for many users. So if today, there are no more campaigns in the forum, I just imagine how this place will look like because engagement will definitely reduce drastically.
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It's easy to draw to à conclusion that there was less activity on the forum as a result of no signature campaigns, but Bitcoin price too was low because it wasn't a popular digital asset at the time ...but I believe the forums numbers went over the roof when we had faucets, Airdrops which paid well at the time, ICOs and a whole lot of other factors that contributed to the forums popularity!!!

So signatures alone didn't bring in the numbers as far as I know, it was a collective effort but I think there is a correlation between BTC price going up and traffic coming to the forum!!
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Without signature campaigns I believe a majority of people would eventually quit.
Take a lot at Altcoinstalk and how that forum was without signature campaigns, discussions were poor and even people who started topics, some did not see any need to express themselves well sometimes. Incentives from signature campaigns have increased the activity in the forum, and made the forum better. For some signature campaigns you have to be a very quality writer to be accepted into it so this drives quality here, and every user would want to write properly to make themselves eligible.

You are correct but I think in the case of Altcointalk, people were not initially interested in posting there not because there were no signature campaigns but because they were already in a place where they are paid for making post by the signature campaigns so not being paid in another forum because too boring for them. I think the incentives gotten from the signature campaigns helps to motivate most of the members who are earning from the campaigns to keep visiting the forum and it also helps them to keep getting better in terms of the information they gather and share here and the traffic we get here most times is also as the results of the members who visit the forum to interact and do other businesses which they got as a result of becoming a member here.

hero member
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There will always be x number of low quality posts with or without signature campaigns. Signature campaigns are a reason why we see an increase in the amount of quality posts on the forum. People are more likely to put thought and time into their posts, and making constructive posts, when they are incentivized to do so. Money is a motivating factor for many of the active posters even if they refuse to admit it. But I do not see how that is a problem if you’re contributing to the forum.
hero member
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Many Members would not Post much if at all, many of them would quit definitively.

On the other hand, I really believe that Signature Campaigns did good to the quality of Posts.  While I see many Members simply being echo chambers of other Members, there are many who write constructive ideas and Posts.

I would imagine the Forum would look so much simpler without the need for constructive Replies.  Have you ever seen the Comments section in a Reddit Thread?  That is how I imagine Bitcoin Talk Threads would look like.
Without signature campaigns, I think this whole forum will not be active and constructive as it is right now. Although there might be some who would stick with this forum and continue to post and share their own concepts and ideas, but the number of replies would never be as many as it is now. So having signature campaigns around bring more positive effects to the forum, aside from the profits around that these participants are also eager to receive in compensation for their quality and logical posts.
legendary
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
Of course, the presence of signature campaigns has positively motivated members to contribute effectively and with high quality due to the financial incentive they receive through placing the signature and avatar of the platform or the company that finances the campaign and earning some money through the constructive posts that they publish in the forum.

It is worth mentioning that even without signature campaigns, the forum has many other benefits and advantages, such as learning, meaningful discussions, gaining experience, making friends around the world, and even finding job opportunities. In my view, the financial factor is not the basis for the continued survival of members to remain active here; it might be one of the secondary factors. The psychological factor of being a contributor to the main Bitcoin forum, which has been contributed to by prominent figures, early developers, founders of crypto, and leading industry companies, is indeed a significant motivation and factor.
legendary
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
The forum traffic will greatly reduce if signature campaigns cease to exist in the forum, earning from signature campaigns is an added incentive for users to post and contribute to discussions in the forum and there is no need for it to stop.

Some people would not admit it, but the desire to join campaigns has made a lot of users better posters, it has helped them to do better research about bitcoin, widened their knowledge of the network, and even improved their spelling and grammar, because if you hardly make quality posts, your chances of joining a campaign is so slim.
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you have seen how people who previously joined the signature campaign regularly post every day, but when they are not in the campaign, their posting frequency starts to decrease, it shows how the signature campaign is a motivation for some users to post here. and if the signature campaign is removed from this forum, maybe you will see how this forum goes back to its old days where only people who are really enthusiastic about bitcoin interact here, and maybe you will see sections like gambling discussions will drastically reduce their activity, because most of the signature campaigns here are supported by gambling platforms.
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Without signature campaigns I believe a majority of people would eventually quit.
Take a lot at Altcoinstalk and how that forum was without signature campaigns, discussions were poor and even people who started topics, some did not see any need to express themselves well sometimes. Incentives from signature campaigns have increased the activity in the forum, and made the forum better. For some signature campaigns you have to be a very quality writer to be accepted into it so this drives quality here, and every user would want to write properly to make themselves eligible.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
The activities a person need to have before engaged in this forum is not that much, first thing person need to have before rank off in this forum which is also very important is the merits system and activities their the one that will lead you to become a full member. Then from the full member rank you can able to apply any signature that is available at that moment, that means if the manager of that signature is required a full member slot.
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Assume that that there's know more signature compaign again in this forum, many of users will be relax, because they will not post regular the way their making a daily post when they're in campaign. The fact is that some can even spend a month before visit this forums, because if you observe some users in this forum if there campaign is ended or has been removed in the compaign they won't make a regular post again till after they get another signature.
legendary
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On the other hand, I really believe that Signature Campaigns did good to the quality of Posts.  While I see many Members simply being echo chambers of other Members, there are many who write constructive ideas and Posts.


There is no doubt about it, people will always try to show themselves in the best light if it means that they will be recognized as top posters, which also means that they will very likely become members of the best paid campaigns. One of the best examples is the CM campaign which lasted for years and had above average pay rates, and many members who had no chance of being accepted due to their low rank often applied there and hoped that one day they would be part of the campaign.



It's undeniable that with signature campaigns nowadays, people become more eager and interested to participate in the forum and rank up so they can qualify for a signature campaign participant. With that, there's high chances that the forum becomes more crowded and spammers and low quality posters have been increasing in number in the forum.
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The interest still exists, but it is much less than 6+ years ago, considering that today we have a merit system, which nevertheless proved to be a significant obstacle for the majority of spammers. This does not mean that there are no spammers, but it means that it is very difficult for them to progress, especially to some higher ranks.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Before I was introduced to this forum by one of my friends, the signature campaign was already available in the forum. So, I can't really say much about the forum before the signature was introduced. However, what I do know is that there were people active on the forum before the signature campaign. From my current perspective, if people were not always active in the forum and having better discussions, I don't think those companies promoting their services would have done so.

The truth about the signature campaign in the forum is that it has both advantages and disadvantages. There is a positive impact as well as a negative impact. If there were no introduction of the signature campaign, I don't think there would be as many members in the forum as there are now. Especially some rate of set of members who continue contributing significantly to the forum. Also, if there were no signature campaign, I don't think there would be as much spamming as there is currently, because members would only reply or post what they don't know,but as signature campaign available some members are looking for way to meet up their signature requirement.
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Actually, I was also curious about a forum without a signature campaign, but after seeing the picture here I realized that the forum was empty of posts.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
I see more of the positive.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

There is influence, but it depends on each user in their activities on the forum. If users are active in forums hoping to get paid from signature campaigns, perhaps their level of activeness in discussions here will decrease.
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how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
If it's done right it should affect the Bitcoin economy positively, and probably signature campaigns along with the services board are the thing that made Bitcoin strong today since it was the forerunner of "cryptocurrency" trades.

So it's not only about the posts but the economy itself in the beginning (based on my humble observation).

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
If it stops today then this forum would lose most of its activity since most members participate in the economy in various ways, such as designers, campaign managers, signature participants, etc. Basically, the forum needs content and only an extremely small percentage of members will provide it for free. Without an incentive, maybe people will still log in but as a silent reader, and if this continues, economic activities along with the discussions will take place in other places eventually.
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The difference, I think, is that there are more quality posts now than when there is no signature campaign, and the forum is also more active than when there are no signature campaigns.

I have not known this forum for a long time. I had never heard of the forum story before the existence of Signature. So I don't understand but I'm just predicting.

Maybe this forum will be a little lonely, except for people who are actively seeking knowledge and sharing. But if you look at the purpose of Satoshi creating a forum is to discuss Bitcoin, but in the development of this forum it has become extraordinary with the addition of some rules.

With the existence of Signature and the rules from the manager, it also helps to improve the quality of discussions. In addition, Merit also influences, because ranking increases are not only seen from the many posts made.  
sr. member
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I knew about the forum before the signature campaign got implemented, but even without it, I don’t have any way of creating an account. I was just coming to the forum to read some topics and reply to them, and nothing more than that, and I realised that there were not many quality posts compared to when the signature campaign came in, although by then you wouldn't see too many people spamming a thread.

 But now many people are doing that just to meet the post-quarter deadline that their signature campaign needed to get paid, and that is why you will see that small thread with many people replying to it. Most of them are just repeating what has been said, but the signature campaign is not like that. The difference, I think, is that there are more quality posts now than when there is no signature campaign, and the forum is also more active than when there are no signature campaigns. 
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I think that regardless of whether there are signature campaigns happening here on Bitcointalk, it would still be engaging and many people would still use bitcointalk. The purpose of bitcointalk was not just for signature campaigns. One example is posting in the service board about services a person can offer, like design, project management and other services. If I’m not mistaken, one of the busiest sections or boards here on bitcointalk in the past was the service section, which had many opportunities to earn, not just through signature campaigns. If you remember, there were also Twitter and Facebook campaigns that you could only apply for here on bitcointalk.
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?



Is there really any changes will happen if signature campaigns didn't exist? For sure spam will still exist since people will still do that since there are lazy people will comment with reading the whole context and post nonsense things here. Sig campaigns have campaign manager which make sure the quality of post made by their participants and for sure that everything is handle well especially if the campaign manager of the campaign is reputable member of this forum.

Also sig campaigns somehow bring positive result to the forum since it urge people to create some activity since they have something to get in return for the efforts they made. Although we can't deny that there are rubbish topic out there, but for sure we can avoid to participate on any of those and select those discussions which have valid points so that we can also make sure that we give proper visibility to the brands we are promoting.

If example there's bitcointalk will not allow sig campaigns anymore. Then provably that we could see a decrease of activities and we already see that happening when mixers sig campaigns has been here.
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Primarily, it's going to filter out those who are buying Bitcoin and who are in the forum for the knowledge from those who are just participating in the forum discussion to complete their signature campaign requirement.  Millions of active users are on YouTube, Facebook, and LinkedIn not because they are being paid to contribute to those platforms but basically because they are gaining and enjoying some benefit from those platforms.

The forum is a compendium of resources and knowledge and any reasonable person who's interested in gaining knowledge on finance, Bitcoin and tech would want to leverage this forum for such kinds of things outside of the regular signature campaign. If the signature campaign ceases to exist, there is no way it won't have an effect on most forum users' activeness but even with that, as long as Bitcoin remains relevant and continues with the trend it has maintained, bitcointalk.com will always remain active and relevant.

I would rather make a comparison between the effect of the price of Bitcoin to the relevance of the forum than the effect of the signature campaign on the forum users. Bitcoin is the skeletal framework of the forum and what will play a bigger role in the fate of the forum is more related to Bitcoin than a signature campaign or any other services on the forum. The forum is evolving by the year and we can't really tell what will become of it in years to come. With time, there might be better reasons to engage in forum discussion that's even more mouth-watering than signature campaigns.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
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I would say signature campaigns have been a net positive to the forum. Before the merit system was introduced, users used to spam the forum and grow farm accounts easily but the forum has seen significant changes in post quality since then. And to be able to join sig campaigns, you need to be at least full member rank (100+merits), this doesn’t come easy and you have to be a somewhat good poster to achieve this.  

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
This has been discussed a lot in the past in Meta. I don’t think the forum would be a graveyard if signature campaigns are no longer allowed but the activity of users would reduce. Like it or now, incentives are big motivation for users to keep posting here. I’m confident of this now because of how easily people moved to altcointalk in the last year.
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Without signature campaigns I believe a majority of people would eventually quit. This forum is not optimized for mobile at all like you would expect from a modern website that is popular. Social media and messaging apps like Telegram have, for the most part, replaced forums. We’ve also seen that people that have become important enough or rich enough don’t find the need to post on here anymore.
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I have noticed that when a user is involved in a signature campaign he is regularly active in the forum and regularly posts qualitatively from active to active in the forum but when that user is kicked out of the campaign or when that user's campaign ends he is seen not to be regularly active. A user becoming irregular due to not being involved in a signature campaign means that when the forum is without a signature campaign, the number of posts in the forum will decrease significantly and new members will not be very interested in increasing their account rank. Maybe a lot of bounty hunters will work here if the bounty campaigns are running but without the signature campaign most users will be irregular and won't post as much as before.

It is clear that getting paid to write is an incentive to do so. I am a member in other forums and still write from time to time, but guess which one I write in the most? The time we have is limited and if you get paid for an activity you do on one site and you don't get paid for the same activity on another site, it's normal that you spend most of your available time on the one you get paid for.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
Every person connected to the forum uses the forum for his own benefit. I think now maybe there would be less spam here if the forum didn't have signature campaigns. Maybe many members come to this bitcoin forum not only to earn money by joining signature campaign but many come to increase their knowledge about bitcoin. There are many others who come here only hoping to earn and post regularly. But after I joined this forum I saw that mixer campaigns are banned in bitcointalk forum. It is true that the traffic of this forum has decreased somewhat since then.

As an example of forum traffic and members becoming inactive, I was previously connected to another forum which was Altcointalk forum. The forum was very active for a while then when various campaigns stopped coming the traffic dropped completely even the forum was inactive for several days. Currently mixer campaigns are being published there regularly which is increasing the traffic of that forum.
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

I want you to know that everyone has their individual purpose of being in the forum and even though I didn't know about how the forum was before signature campaign began but just like other platforms I believe that the people then were still engaging more in Bitcoin related discussions and it's development and for me I think that was when quality posts were even made more than now because there is no rush to fulfill signature posts counts which results to some people making irrelevant posts just to get paid as it is today but I want you to understand that there are still old users who started the forum more than a decade ago and they are very much active in the forum without without signature campaigns and they are pretty doing alright in their real life.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Though there are people who came to the forum basically because of the signature earnings but if signature campaigns seize to exist in the forum then life goes on just like it has been when most companies that came to advertise their signatures left after some time, that is why people should not only depend on signature earnings because they will come and go and the forum will still continue to exist even though there may be a reduction in the activity of some users but what would be would be.
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The best answer is waiting a reply from user that registered before June 2011 since they know what the forum likes.


There are very few users who were active then and are still active, and besides, I honestly doubt that they would get involved in this kind of discussion and share their experiences.

The forum then, as now, was a place for discussion and exchange of information, and later something new appeared in the form of signature campaigns. This must have motivated many to register here and must have ensured that this forum has been popular all these years.



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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?


It would be demotivating for many, there's no doubt about that - and all those who are there just because of signature campaigns would probably disappear within a month. Money is a great motivator, but if it is the only one, it can be an aggravating circumstance for many - it is not difficult to conclude who writes only for money, and who is there for some other reasons.

It's undeniable that with signature campaigns nowadays, people become more eager and interested to participate in the forum and rank up so they can qualify for a signature campaign participant. With that, there's high chances that the forum becomes more crowded and spammers and low quality posters have been increasing in number in the forum.

Well, that's how money motivate these people, that even if they don't have sufficient understanding with how this forum and bitcoin works in the market, their extreme need for money still prevail.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
I wasn’t opportune to join the forum earlier but with what we have seen when we check the post history of some past members that are not active and some reputable members of today in the past, there are a lot of spam in the forum even when the signature campaigns were introduced to the forum; although the signature reduces number of spam’s due to the payment and if you didn’t make quality posts you will not get paid, then the merit system is what eradicate spam in the forum because you need to rank up before enrolling in any signature campaign.
In general, signature campaigns have positive impact to the forum because it keeps some members here and provides more traffic to the forum.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

If Signature campaigns are no more in this forum, many forum users will leave because some of us earn for a leaving through the payment we receive in our respective campaigns.
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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Many Members would not Post much if at all, many of them would quit definitively.

On the other hand, I really believe that Signature Campaigns did good to the quality of Posts.  While I see many Members simply being echo chambers of other Members, there are many who write constructive ideas and Posts.

I would imagine the Forum would look so much simpler without the need for constructive Replies.  Have you ever seen the Comments section in a Reddit Thread?  That is how I imagine Bitcoin Talk Threads would look like.
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I have noticed that when a user is involved in a signature campaign he is regularly active in the forum and regularly posts qualitatively from active to active in the forum but when that user is kicked out of the campaign or when that user's campaign ends he is seen not to be regularly active. A user becoming irregular due to not being involved in a signature campaign means that when the forum is without a signature campaign, the number of posts in the forum will decrease significantly and new members will not be very interested in increasing their account rank. Maybe a lot of bounty hunters will work here if the bounty campaigns are running but without the signature campaign most users will be irregular and won't post as much as before.
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As you can see the highest new topics, new posts, new members and most online happened during June, 2011. Before that the number is low, even though it's not make sense to evaluate the forum traffic during early phase since Bitcoin is really new thing and it keep growing.

You need to evaluate the forum traffic when Bitcoin is nothing new anymore, so we can know how many people are actually stay in this forum, not just being curious.

The best answer is waiting a reply from user that registered before June 2011 since they know what the forum likes.
Then in 2017, ICOs brought many spammers, bounty hunters to the forum. There was a spamming endemic in the forum back then before theymos asked community opinion, solutions and merit system was launched. After that kick-off, stats of new users, new topics, new posts dropped dramatically.

Time Series on monthly statistics of forum (new users, new topics, new posts)
Rank and merit system changes
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The old-timers who came to the forum at the very beginning were enthusiastic, and their posts were quite interesting to understand that all the newcomers were interested primarily in Bitcoin and not in the financial side of the forum.
You are actually right about the old timers' interest and focus as I have seen few threads involving their discussions. But I want to add that it is not entirely correct that the early people were not motivated by money because you cannot define Bitcoin without associating it with money. The right thing to say is that the traffic of the forum grew as Bitcoin became valuable. In other words, as people began to see rise in Bitcoin from a few cents to single digit, double digits and so on, more people began developing interest in Bitcoin. Those focusing on the tech were actually there and most of them ended up mining Bitcoin which is still a way of making money. Some got Bitcoin through faucets and donations and when they share their testimony, more people created account and became curious on how to earn Bitcoin.

Today most of the ways people earn Bitcoin are no longer happening so we now have services that are supported by Bitcoin such as exchanges, casinos and others and they run their marketing through signature campaigns so people will join because it is an opportunity to earn. If you remove money from the equation even from the beginning, here will become a ghost land unless maybe there are some sort of entertainment like games that will still keep some here. Meanwhile, anyone who loves Bitcoin actually love money because Bitcoin is money.
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If the company's signature ceases to exist on the forum, then, in order not to guess what will happen, you can return to the origins of the forum and check the accounts of those interested in the development of Bitcoin. The same as now, you can check old accounts. Sometimes the history of the forum is so interesting that you can see people there who could become millionaires today, but ignorance of the value of Bitcoin influenced them to sell a very large amount. The old-timers who came to the forum at the very beginning were enthusiastic, and their posts were quite interesting to understand that all the newcomers were interested primarily in Bitcoin and not in the financial side of the forum.
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The best answer is waiting a reply from user that registered before June 2011 since they know what the forum likes.


There are very few users who were active then and are still active, and besides, I honestly doubt that they would get involved in this kind of discussion and share their experiences.

The forum then, as now, was a place for discussion and exchange of information, and later something new appeared in the form of signature campaigns. This must have motivated many to register here and must have ensured that this forum has been popular all these years.



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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?


It would be demotivating for many, there's no doubt about that - and all those who are there just because of signature campaigns would probably disappear within a month. Money is a great motivator, but if it is the only one, it can be an aggravating circumstance for many - it is not difficult to conclude who writes only for money, and who is there for some other reasons.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
I don't know about the origin of the forum and how it has been of the past if it started with or without signature campaigns but all I know is that this bitcointalk forum is a platform designed to educate Bitcoin and Crypto enthusiasts as a term of discussion.
Also in discussion to varieties of economy, politics and Societies etc.
At all course, it is a free learning institute where one was ought to pay before signing in to the forum considering the vision and impacts of the forum but it was an opened source free.

But I can only guess that signature campaigns was introduced in the forum as rewards or encouragement to respective and qualified quality poster who had earnestly been contributing to the Speculations awareness of Bitcoin and their creative ideals of how to enhance the Crypto industry.

This alone is Worth compensating qualified members because they sacrifices lot of time and knowledges of educating one and the other.


Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
In essence, the forum will still be a better place without signature campaign as most persons as I am came to the forum to acquire Bitcoin knowledge which is enough golden opportunity as it is all free of charge and then as I advances staying in the forum I was discovered that there is a functionality like a signature campaign.

In our localities, there are people wanting to learn about Bitcoin and or crypto currencies so, referring them to the forum would still keep the forum boom active because the primary initiation of users in the forum was not in expectation of joining campaigns or gets paid.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
In terms of discussion involvement in this forum before there was any campaign, I think it is still the same as now, although there is a slight difference, namely that there are no ties to the campaign rules except the forum rules themselves. And for everyone I think if they don't participate in any campaigns they are just free from the mandatory posting work so they can post whenever they want without having to look at the time and so on. So I think that the campaign is a positive thing because it can invite more people to join this forum.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
Maybe the impact is that it will be a little quiet for old users or it will also be quiet for attracting new users because there is no income they can expect from this forum other than just knowledge and interesting discussions from many people. Now I personally am starting to see and feel this when there are several signature campaigns that ended and were banned by the forum this year, but this certainly won't stop those who are used to posting on this forum from continuing to discuss as usual.
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First signature campaign started on June 12, 2011.

Here's the forum stats before signature campaign.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

As you can see the highest new topics, new posts, new members and most online happened during June, 2011. Before that the number is low, even though it's not make sense to evaluate the forum traffic during early phase since Bitcoin is really new thing and it keep growing.

You need to evaluate the forum traffic when Bitcoin is nothing new anymore, so we can know how many people are actually stay in this forum, not just being curious.

The best answer is waiting a reply from user that registered before June 2011 since they know what the forum likes.
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I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
Low quality posts were more before signature campaign began but spam was less. After signature campaign was getting many on this forum, spam increased. But most people that are spamming are people from bounty campaigns. But reputable members post quality increases and they are in signature campaigns.

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?
You can easily know this if you study the accounts of those that are not in a campaign after a campaign ended or the person is removed. You will notice that the person will not post like before. Posting will significantly reduce and some people will not visit this forum again.
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I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

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