Topic: How feds have been able to identify the users of the largest child porn website (Read 281 times)
October 19, 2019, 03:30:10 AM
In the network we can very easily find out the location of network access, especially if the network is a network that you made yourself. The FBI is a unit that is free in exploring everything, they have expert people and freedom of access for every public network and data. Searching cyber crime networks until they can identify, they usually become one of the customers, this method is often done, so the initial steps to the end are the same as those mentioned OP.
October 19, 2019, 03:13:58 AM
Who would even watch that kind of video? That's very disgusting. It's a sexual abuse to children! Their minors. You're not in the right mind if you enjoyed watching those kind of sexual abuse.
There are tons of people to be real that really watch this kind of disgusting videos, especially on the deep web. Psychotic people who need to be cured, they all have the same sickness of wanting to watch that kind of videos and wants for a child or Pedophilia. Now they add damage to bitcoin and crypto itself. People would think it's for illegal and criminal activities
Indeed, huge damage has been done to bitcoins image in the public so adoption is really hard to push through because they all think that bitcoin is for terrorist and illegal doings because that is what they were told about bitcoin. 
October 19, 2019, 03:02:34 AM
Let's be honest, it does not matter what method they used to track these pedophiles, the important thing is that they caught them. The whole community must help the authorities to identify these sites where Bitcoin are used to pay people to provide content where children are raped and violated. 
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
It's a two way thing. I'm happy child porn criminals were brought to justice. However, It scares me to know that my crypto activities can be tracked. It's not about doing anything wrong etc. It isn't cool that it can be traced back especially since Cryptocurrencies were originally built to put power back in the hands of users while providing privacy. My country regulatorscan wake up one day and prohibit citizens from participating in crypto activities (trading, lending, investing etc). And people who still went on to do it (maybe because they're die-hard crypto enthusiasts) and then regulators might track and punish them. That's one of the downside. I've always known exchanges bend the knees to government regulations.
If your a regular consumer you probably won't need to worry - the government won't care and doesn't have enough time to track your exchange and coins back to you.
There is a simple way around this though - use OTC platforms. Localbitcoins and Paxful are 2 great examples.
October 19, 2019, 02:42:53 AM
Who would even watch that kind of video? That's very disgusting. It's a sexual abuse to children! Their minors. You're not in the right mind if you enjoyed watching those kind of sexual abuse. It's just great that they were able to locate and close that website because of kyc. Imagine all those number of addresses in that website...
Now they add damage to bitcoin and crypto itself. People would think it's for illegal and criminal activities
Now they add damage to bitcoin and crypto itself. People would think it's for illegal and criminal activities
October 18, 2019, 12:44:52 PM
Great news!! A win for bitcoin. I hope law enforcers and the general public can work together through th power of crypto and not against. This whole KYC thins is very annoying and it makes people have a sour taste towards law enforcement. Besides, there are ways to track IP addresses and it really is not that hard even if the use a VPN the VPN will have to release the info. VPN that doesn't keep info less can be done but it is still not impossible.
Many times you can link differnt people together and bust them all at once using VPN or not KYC or not they will be caught.
I hope they hang this filth. It is like youtube for paedophiles. Like a whole freaking network you just log in to and that fine let me just login to this child abuse site and thats great. Setup like child abuse is normal and forums with highly disturbed individuals. Just exchanging their kiddie filth like it was pokemon cards.
The most disturbing thing is these sickos look like anyone of us. You cannot tell what sick desires are in these peoples heads. You just never know. You could walk past than in the street bump into them in the shop and never even know.
Many times you can link differnt people together and bust them all at once using VPN or not KYC or not they will be caught.
I hope they hang this filth. It is like youtube for paedophiles. Like a whole freaking network you just log in to and that fine let me just login to this child abuse site and thats great. Setup like child abuse is normal and forums with highly disturbed individuals. Just exchanging their kiddie filth like it was pokemon cards.
The most disturbing thing is these sickos look like anyone of us. You cannot tell what sick desires are in these peoples heads. You just never know. You could walk past than in the street bump into them in the shop and never even know.
October 18, 2019, 03:53:51 AM
It is actually not that tough if you know what you are doing. A BTC address won't be enough to track down a user unless they fill in KYC or do something stupid. It all comes down to how smartly you utilize the tech behind BTC.
So you think there are a lot of people who are experts at not leaving digital footprints out there? If this were the case, the administrator would not have made the error that exposed his public IP when using TOR.
Why is this so surprising? BTC has been steadily rising in value and gaining popularity over time which is why more and more users around the world are embracing it. Also, I am happy that the FEDS actually tracked these pedophiles which is why I applaud them in this case.
BTC may be popular, but if you are doing or are going to do illegal stuff, does it make sense to leave any traces?
October 18, 2019, 03:18:48 AM
Let's be honest, it does not matter what method they used to track these pedophiles, the important thing is that they caught them. The whole community must help the authorities to identify these sites where Bitcoin are used to pay people to provide content where children are raped and violated.
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
It's a two way thing. I'm happy child porn criminals were brought to justice. However, It scares me to know that my crypto activities can be tracked. It's not about doing anything wrong etc. It isn't cool that it can be traced back especially since Cryptocurrencies were originally built to put power back in the hands of users while providing privacy. My country regulatorscan wake up one day and prohibit citizens from participating in crypto activities (trading, lending, investing etc). And people who still went on to do it (maybe because they're die-hard crypto enthusiasts) and then regulators might track and punish them. That's one of the downside. I've always known exchanges bend the knees to government regulations.
October 18, 2019, 03:07:58 AM
This is an obvious thing. KYC were introduced for this purpose only. This looks good when it's about finding users of child porn website but this won't look that good when it will come at finding users who use exchanges for trading and do not disclose their income accordingly. I think it's important that we understand the anonymity feature of Bitcoin and respect it to ensure that we all live safely. Bitcoin wasn't introduced to make it easier for authorities to find us.
October 18, 2019, 03:06:51 AM
It took them years to caught everyone involves this is the biggest accomplishment of the authority in our time. The closing of this site will make a positive effect on the use of Bitcoin in the near future because investors don't need to think about being involved with this kind of thing. Also, the other sites like this will also closed they will no reason to continue their operation because the big fish among them has been caught.
The story of the kiddie porn site or service has a good continuation, with good investigation results, and of course I am very happy that this result is against organizers of such service. It is great that Blockchain and such procedure like Know Your Customer (KYC) played really useful role in this situation. Despite of such a risk to loose your assets or become vulnerable because you send all your data to lots of services, in this case it played really great and positive role. The one sticking point in whole this story is that such services ( and it is a pity, but it is true) find other ways to prolong their life, and of course only low-level workers will be punished. I am afraid that as a rule the main organizer of such service is still and will stay in the shade till the time when all this story will be forgotten. And after that he or they will continue this dirty business again..
October 18, 2019, 02:22:06 AM
Very interesting, feds did great job! But these people who got cauch are really dumb (fortunately). Because spending Bitcoins on Dark Web directly from exchanges and centralised wallets isn't very smart idea. They probably thought that using Bitcoins is enought to stay anonymous.
Majority of the user doing illegal activity through bitcoin does not have any idea what they are dealing, the only see that a string of address will not link them to their identity and even though there are many criminals being sent to jail they will never understand bitcoin cannot be used to conduct illegal activities and i am certain that all the scammers and hackers will be caught in the future even if they use mixers. 
October 18, 2019, 02:15:42 AM
The problem is that being anonymous nowadays is very difficult, whether it's due to advances in technology, the NSA, or ignorance.
It is actually not that tough if you know what you are doing. A BTC address won't be enough to track down a user unless they fill in KYC or do something stupid. It all comes down to how smartly you utilize the tech behind BTC.Something that still surprises me a lot in 2019 is that Bitcoin remains the currency most used in the darknet, luckily for the authorities, thanks to it are that they were able to catch these criminals.
Why is this so surprising? BTC has been steadily rising in value and gaining popularity over time which is why more and more users around the world are embracing it. Also, I am happy that the FEDS actually tracked these pedophiles which is why I applaud them in this case. October 18, 2019, 02:03:55 AM
Very interesting, feds did great job! But these people who got cauch are really dumb (fortunately). Because spending Bitcoins on Dark Web directly from exchanges and centralised wallets isn't very smart idea. They probably thought that using Bitcoins is enought to stay anonymous. But they didn't thought about KYC and that exchanges knows everything about them and that feds can ask them to give information about user.
But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
The problem is that being anonymous nowadays is very difficult, whether it's due to advances in technology, the NSA, or ignorance.
Something that still surprises me a lot in 2019 is that Bitcoin remains the currency most used in the darknet, luckily for the authorities, thanks to it are that they were able to catch these criminals.
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Europol: Bitcoin is the still the dark web’s favorite cryptocurrency
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/10/14/europol-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-underground-organized-crime-monero-privacy/
Darknet transactions up 70% — with BTC still the currency of choice
https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/darknet-transactions-up-70-with-btc-still-the-currency-of-choice
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/10/14/europol-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-underground-organized-crime-monero-privacy/
Darknet transactions up 70% — with BTC still the currency of choice
https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/darknet-transactions-up-70-with-btc-still-the-currency-of-choice
October 18, 2019, 01:50:29 AM
Let's be honest, it does not matter what method they used to track these pedophiles, the important thing is that they caught them. The whole community must help the authorities to identify these sites where Bitcoin are used to pay people to provide content where children are raped and violated.
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
Yes, some might say that the method they used are important, because the authorities might also have access to methods to identify each and every person that owns bitcoins and it is important that we should know about this, because it puts "legal" Bitcoin users in jeopardy if they can track and trace everyone to their coins. <... but in cases like this, I am OK with that>
October 18, 2019, 12:19:10 AM
sadly this case will be used as fodder to continue pushing increasingly strict KYC rules, when we all know that more technically savvy criminals can render them ineffective anyway.
This will definitely going to feed the regulators to push for a stricter approach. Well, it might deter to a certain extent the proliferation of such disgusting act. And I certainly support reasonable measures to finally put a stop to this perversion. What I feel a little bit unfair though is that the news seem to closely associate the existence of this largest child porn website to cryptocurrency alone, and so much so that it appears as if its operation is only fueled by crypto patrons alone. For sure, even before Satoshi made the first step toward Bitcoin development, child porn was already present.
October 18, 2019, 12:14:37 AM
Cases like this are usually big cases, not many institutions have very broad authority and relations. In my opinion if it's not a big case, a search like you said wouldn't be done. I've also researched about everything that is connected to the internet can be tracked even though they use Fake IP.
October 17, 2019, 11:58:38 PM
Those people are so stupid... I don't understand what's going through their mind for them. Why would they engage in criminal acts with coins that they purchase off a exchange where they have verified their identity. Would have expected them to at least purchase their coins via an OTC service, or at least an exchange that didn't have their kyc information. This kinda showcases how bitcoin isn't as anonymous as people think it is...
Not anymore. Bitcoin can now be considered as a public cryptocurrency. And though this may not be good news for the criminals, I am actually happy with this because from now on no one can be claiming that with Bitcoin criminals can flourish. In fact, using Bitcoin, there can be more criminals that can be traced, tracked and be incarcerated compared if these people are using the usual fiat money. Maybe it is time that we weed out these people from Bitcoin so as to improve its "shady" image to the general population and the regulators. Our society has no place for child pornography or even illicit drugs.
Obviously from this article, the criminals where dumb enough to connect their real identity with their crimes, and don't know about mixers and other services, so we thank them for their stupidity.
October 17, 2019, 11:29:56 PM
This is one of the reasons why Bitcoin need a centralized agency to provide identification to bitcoin addresses. However, I think it's too late. The good thing is that the exchanges themselves implement KYC. The offenders must have thought that while having a bitcoin address can be anonymous, the exchanges sure would store your KYC information on their databases.
The centralized agency idea won't affect the prices since it does not aim to control price movement, instead its main focus would be for security purposes. To regulate exchanges, have identification of companies that utilizes bitcoin, and various ICOs and crypto-blockchain related services.
The centralized agency idea won't affect the prices since it does not aim to control price movement, instead its main focus would be for security purposes. To regulate exchanges, have identification of companies that utilizes bitcoin, and various ICOs and crypto-blockchain related services.
October 17, 2019, 11:25:35 PM
Very interesting, feds did great job! But these people who got cauch are really dumb (fortunately). Because spending Bitcoins on Dark Web directly from exchanges and centralised wallets isn't very smart idea. They probably thought that using Bitcoins is enought to stay anonymous. But they didn't thought about KYC and that exchanges knows everything about them and that feds can ask them to give information about user.
But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
with this mistakes now those other child porn operator was given idea how to keep safe their next operation.but i'm sure that feds wont stop seeking on how to track down all of this who is abusing the rights of every child worldwide.But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
this may send as message to the aspiring pornographer to stop their operation or they will be behind bars in the next couple of days.
Those people are so stupid... I don't understand what's going through their mind for them. Why would they engage in criminal acts with coins that they purchase off a exchange where they have verified their identity.
Would have expected them to at least purchase their coins via an OTC service, or at least an exchange that didn't have their kyc information.
This kinda showcases how bitcoin isn't as anonymous as people think it is...
maybe they are confident that crypo is decentralized lol.but maybe there's something inside this arrest or at some point those arrested wasn't really the operators they can be a employee that is being used as accomplish Would have expected them to at least purchase their coins via an OTC service, or at least an exchange that didn't have their kyc information.
This kinda showcases how bitcoin isn't as anonymous as people think it is...
October 17, 2019, 11:12:35 PM
Of course, if you take the necessary precautions, including if you use Monero and other anonymous cryptocurrencies, then in general it will remain completely anonymous, provided that the user evades the KYC procedure.
That is, informed users can continue to remain anonymous when using cryptocurrency.
That is, informed users can continue to remain anonymous when using cryptocurrency.
indeed, they went after low hanging fruit in this case. i'm amazed it took them 3 years to shut it down. users sending payments directly from exchanges, and a sloppy admin who was leaking his server's real IP address to the internet:
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In a statement, British authorities said the National Crime Agency’s cybercrime unit deployed “specialist capabilities” to identify the server’s location.
The justice department gave a different explanation, saying that Welcome To Video’s site was leaking its server’s South Korean internet protocol address to the open internet.
The justice department gave a different explanation, saying that Welcome To Video’s site was leaking its server’s South Korean internet protocol address to the open internet.
sadly this case will be used as fodder to continue pushing increasingly strict KYC rules, when we all know that more technically savvy criminals can render them ineffective anyway.
October 17, 2019, 11:00:21 PM
Very interesting, feds did great job! But these people who got cauch are really dumb (fortunately). Because spending Bitcoins on Dark Web directly from exchanges and centralised wallets isn't very smart idea. They probably thought that using Bitcoins is enought to stay anonymous. But they didn't thought about KYC and that exchanges knows everything about them and that feds can ask them to give information about user.
But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
But obviously not all people were identified. As seen in image, some people used mixers or websites or decentralised wallets.
If I have that kind of activity I will never use an exchange because exchanges are compliant and they prefer to betray their clients than get their license to revoke, that is the purpose of the mixer or they should request to send their fee through a privacy coins, but not that does a KYC in exchanges are their true identity, some of them are using fake or from other people's identity to pass their KYC, so doing airdrops and giving them your information is really bad.
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