Topic: How I see politics. (Read 2133 times)

Smugglers. It's only 90 miles from Key West, and not much farther from nearby island nations.

Yeah, it's kinda weird anyway. I mean you could say the same about democracy. Every democracy ultimately failed at some point. To make it simple. If there was no democracy in Germany at this time no Hitler could have been elected.

But that's not what it is about. Sadly puristic views lead to problems. You know, like the US would have failed if it was really democratic, China if it was really communist, ...

I often wonder how Cuba does it. How can it survive? They have critics in the country that vocally complain about things, but unlike China for example they aren't treated badly. They still have their huge awesome mansion for free, with free health care, free food, ... and are not being silenced at all. Now, that's not it. What I don't get is that they are sanctioned by the US which would ruin a lot of other countries. Still compared to their neighboring countries they are doing really, really well.

Well, I am not a communist. I like a few ideas, like people being on one level, but that's in no way what Cuba is about. They are an authoritarian dictatorship, so basically the exact opposite of that. Still there are a lot of people that don't just pretend to be happy (which also exists there (which is bad (dictatorship and so on))). So I sometimes wonder whether there is something that Cuba does or doesn't have that makes people happy despite being considered poor by the rest of the world.

That's also a philosophical question. If people are really(!) happy with something then wouldn't it be wrong to take that happiness even if it means there isn't some freedom. I guess the question is whether they'd really want it, but how could they know?

Related to this. Is it possible that "western" (what's often called "capitalist") countries or societies actually have a huge problem with grief that makes people unhappy? It's just because a lot of us don't know how they could be happy if they would have to live without electronics for example.

And to for the purpose of making a point. Humanity ten thousand years ago. They were also happy. They did lots of things that enabled us to have the research. It was later that stuff like slavery came up or the dark age. And stuff that's said to be good, like a long life. Does it really make happy? In general it somehow seems that people get more and more unhappy about stuff and also lose motivation, which maybe prevents us from getting further.

I don't have the slightest idea whether any of this is true and not even how to change it, but I am sure there are a lot of people here that would be willing to share their thoughts on this.

We fail to learn from history. For example, show me some Communist successes that didn't wind up in huge government control, a lack of freedom of speech, a million+ person massacre...
So maybe governments should keep their people fed, at least to the point where very few consider a communist revolution.

I think politics is something that fails to evolve. It's why the same things have been repeating over and over for a few thousand years now, just becoming more dramatic. I think we need research, try completely new things, because with all these failing systems we don't have too much to loose... or lets say it differently. We loose anyway, if we don't try. I don't care, both Seasteading and the Venus Project at least look like ideas. Yeah, maybe they will fail. Maybe they will fail badly, but have a look at how things are running. They fail too.

Maybe we need countries to go their own way, maybe we need to forget about the concept of countries at all. Maybe we need a world government, maybe we need way smaller, independent communities. Maybe we need nothing like that at all. But hey.. lets give it a try?

Japanese? Like Satoshi!
You shall be appointed first bit-pope.

Yeah, he sounds like a certain guy we all know...

You don't mean A...?

This supposed newbie sounds suspiciously familiar...

"Make the best of a bad situation"

But that doesn't mean "don't resist". Resist by all means.

This reminds me of the quote:

"If rape is inevitable, you may as well lie back and enjoy the ride".

You hush now, I don't like discussing politics.

Politics is just a convenient word people use which can cover anything in order to avoid discussing difficult subjects.

Yeah, I agree LSD is fun and lets you see things from interesting perspectives.  But eventually, when you come down, I'm willing to have a sane discussion.  Let me know when it wears off.

A lack of meaning is only a problem for those who desire meaning. As for morality, I do not concern myself with gods and spirits either good or evil nor do I serve any.

Exactly.

If the rulers followed this then they wouldn't be rulers.

It's a very Zen Buddhist thing to say. Perhaps the title was poorly chosen, but then, if the "rulers" followed the same philosophy, it would be a much more peaceful world.

What the F is that supposed to mean, really?

It could mean a lot of things, but in this forum, and with the title "How I see politics" I see it as being a passenger in your own life.  How horrible, trust me, in the end, when it's all over, following this doctrine is going to bring you sorrow.  The sorrow of the awareness that you're life had no meaning and you were a moral failure.

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