Topic: How I was scammed ...... - page 2. (Read 3603 times)
First of all , I feel sorry for your loss, I know how it feels to be scammed. Anyways your story was similar to what happened to me back when I was a newbie, same modus operandi involving a teamviewer. In my part, we communicated on FB and I was using a local bitcoin wallet/exchange. That kind of procedure was pretty common I guess, especially for noobs who don't have any idea how teamviewer works.
Just be vigilant next time
Just be vigilant next time
But did you not saw the mouse pointer moving or when he did enter his wallet and the ammount?
So to be exact, how dangerous is it to use it when you A) download and install it from the official source and B) the user is not enabling the option that the other person can do things on your pc... so that he only can see.
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
Downloading TV from the hompegae is no risk at all. I could mirrior my screen to you all day long, you could just watch what i do. If i give you full remote access and leave you alone then, you could do whatever you want.
Ok, that's what i was wondering about. So the only way this could have happened was when OP downloaded the software either from a fake domain, so the exe was a trojan, or when he allowed the other party not only to watch but to act on his pc.
If someone downloads from the offical website and does NOT allow the other person to act on his pc then it is still fully save, right?
I already became unsure if it is a general risk.
damn son... that was extremelly harsh...
At least you now know how to avoid these squemes
At least you now know how to avoid these squemes
Scammers are there day in and day out pooling people but yeah now we learnt one more technique which they use to scam people so it's up to us to be smart and never get scammed when it comes to bitcoin
Thank you for some great feedback...........and not for laying it on so thick.....lol. Yeah, I walked right into it.
1. He scammed me for about $350
2. I downloaded Team Viewer from the website, not a link.
3. Thank you for the tips about securing my computer, I haven't noticed anything weird...but I will do all the necessary scans.
4. The question about the code.....no I told him I knew how to use it, but he wanted to see it applied to my debit account online (we never got that far obviously....I'm not sure what exactly he said to me to get to my wallet right away. I think something about needing to verify that I had the necessary amount available for the trade.) I'm not exactly sure how the particulars of the Team Viewer work where he could actually gain access to my computer.............and empty those coins out.....did he somehow key-log my password on the blockchain?
The funny thing is I used to scam....so it's like it all comes back around. Scam and be scammed. I don't know why I fell so hypnotized in this scenario....part of it was being a noob to this particular style of trading, part of it was just being too gullible - nice- thinking everybody was my friend. Part of it was greed and needing to make a fast buck. LOL, it's been a long time since I was on the opposite end of a scam....so perhaps I was overconfident. I hope this helps somebody...or at least serves as a lesson on WHAT NOT TO DO.......
Thanks everybody for being constructive and not telling me how stupid I am (because I already am aware of that......lol)
1. He scammed me for about $350
2. I downloaded Team Viewer from the website, not a link.
3. Thank you for the tips about securing my computer, I haven't noticed anything weird...but I will do all the necessary scans.
4. The question about the code.....no I told him I knew how to use it, but he wanted to see it applied to my debit account online (we never got that far obviously....I'm not sure what exactly he said to me to get to my wallet right away. I think something about needing to verify that I had the necessary amount available for the trade.) I'm not exactly sure how the particulars of the Team Viewer work where he could actually gain access to my computer.............and empty those coins out.....did he somehow key-log my password on the blockchain?
The funny thing is I used to scam....so it's like it all comes back around. Scam and be scammed. I don't know why I fell so hypnotized in this scenario....part of it was being a noob to this particular style of trading, part of it was just being too gullible - nice- thinking everybody was my friend. Part of it was greed and needing to make a fast buck. LOL, it's been a long time since I was on the opposite end of a scam....so perhaps I was overconfident. I hope this helps somebody...or at least serves as a lesson on WHAT NOT TO DO.......
Thanks everybody for being constructive and not telling me how stupid I am (because I already am aware of that......lol)
Honnestly... I wouldn't say you're stupid.
Even after your explanations I had to take some time to understand everything. I didn't know TeamViewer either so I understand that you rushed a bit and trusted the man in front of view.
That's a rather elaborated scam. I think I would have felt for it.
Thanks for sharing, you maybe saved me some money in the future!
And sorry for your loses, like most of us you learnt something the hard way
with that program he had access to your drive... never trust anyone you don't know online... sorry for your lost coins
damn son... that was extremelly harsh...
At least you now know how to avoid these squemes
At least you now know how to avoid these squemes
Strange story! Full of beginners mistakes?
You just gave him all privileges of your pc..I can't understand that kind of naivety?
Maybe this topic was created for open discussion not for finding truth.
Just like Pulp Fiction
You just gave him all privileges of your pc..I can't understand that kind of naivety?
Maybe this topic was created for open discussion not for finding truth.
Just like Pulp Fiction
You used to scam? Sorry I have no sympathy for you. As others have said, never allow someone to take control of your computer!
Never download anything especially a exe file. Remember.
So to be exact, how dangerous is it to use it when you A) download and install it from the official source and B) the user is not enabling the option that the other person can do things on your pc... so that he only can see.
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
Downloading TV from the hompegae is no risk at all. I could mirrior my screen to you all day long, you could just watch what i do. If i give you full remote access and leave you alone then, you could do whatever you want.
So to be exact, how dangerous is it to use it when you A) download and install it from the official source and B) the user is not enabling the option that the other person can do things on your pc... so that he only can see.
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
Can this still be exploitet so that the solution would be to never use teamviewer?
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teamviewer doesnt give you the ability to work super fast on the system you control. no way of just "baaaaaaaaaaam" all btc gone...
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teamviewer doesnt give you the ability to work super fast on the system you control. no way of just "baaaaaaaaaaam" all btc gone...
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No, I had more smoke and mirrors in mind. Something quick and simple like changing the payment address or the login url. However it seems OP is no longer following the thread or unwilling to give more details so its just speculation anyway.
TeamViewer is a remote support tool. used by millions of people. it allows screensharing, remote control or net meetings. the problem isnt teamviewer, the problem sits between keyboard and chair, downloading software without having a clue what it is. When someone has remote control he might be able to do bad things. how about some tx ids showing funds are removed along with a signed message from those addresses.
teamviewer doesnt give you the ability to work super fast on the system you control. no way of just "baaaaaaaaaaam" all btc gone...
this video is total bullshit. calling malewarebytes "maleware" is like screaming "mooooooooooooon" on every stupid altcoin. ofc, downloading it from strange hosting sites may not be the way. i spent 50 minutes watching a stupid guy getting remote support from a very slow indian while the stupid guy puts stupid comments on screen. yeah blame the indians... and how the fuck are "administrator rights" are installed?
the way the indian guy did might not be the fastest and not the smartest and he didnt pay attention to what the customer said, but 99% of customers cant describe the problems. ofc telling about 100% protection is crap, but they didnt do something bad like you wrote. they trying to sell their support, thats it.
teamviewer doesnt give you the ability to work super fast on the system you control. no way of just "baaaaaaaaaaam" all btc gone...
You can't blame it on software!
You know now your lesson!
I saw those administrators from India how they helps people in securing their pc from viruses online. Instead of security they install malwares and administrator rights ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9uTTXA-5dE
You know now your lesson!
I saw those administrators from India how they helps people in securing their pc from viruses online. Instead of security they install malwares and administrator rights ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9uTTXA-5dE
this video is total bullshit. calling malewarebytes "maleware" is like screaming "mooooooooooooon" on every stupid altcoin. ofc, downloading it from strange hosting sites may not be the way. i spent 50 minutes watching a stupid guy getting remote support from a very slow indian while the stupid guy puts stupid comments on screen. yeah blame the indians... and how the fuck are "administrator rights" are installed?
the way the indian guy did might not be the fastest and not the smartest and he didnt pay attention to what the customer said, but 99% of customers cant describe the problems. ofc telling about 100% protection is crap, but they didnt do something bad like you wrote. they trying to sell their support, thats it.
Wow, that sucks man!
I haven't really heard of something like this before, thanks for sharing this experience. Through this we can all learn!
I haven't really heard of something like this before, thanks for sharing this experience. Through this we can all learn!
well team viewer it's like a rootkit basically, he have the access to your device, even if it was not team viewer, is still very stupid to give control of your pc like this, with a wallet also...
Its not that powerful without an exploit. I dont think an exploit was used here either. From what I read my best guess what happened is that the attacker had some sort of script that works only with blockchain.info. Like a series of key presses that quickly create a TX when logged in. OP logged in, the attacker used the script to create a TX and the coins are gone. If they had a key logger and access to the files they could have attacked any local wallet. There would have been no need to convince the OP to create a new wallet with bc.i. The mere request of creating a specific wallet should have rung all the alarm bells though. A signed message can easily be created for proof of funds.
well team viewer it's like a rootkit basically, he have the access to your device, even if it was not team viewer, is still very stupid to give control of your pc like this, with a wallet also...
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