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Topic: How is the current market state NOT a bubble? (Read 9767 times)

legendary
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October 06, 2018, 01:23:09 AM
#47
Just because there is explosive growth does not mean we are in a bubble, sometimes things grow in value very suddenly due to a massive increase in the utility value offered by the item in question. Cryptocurrency is one example of the latter, the utility of cryptocurrency massively increased in the period from when it was first introduced until now, with smart contracts and decentralized applications being added to the mix, stable coins, ETFs, futures etc. There is no reason to believe this is a bubble.

actually an explosive growth in price is one of the main signs of a bubble in existence. but the thing is that bubbles burst and the market corrects itself. it doesn't mean ALL the rise should go away just because it was explosive. for example if we have $100 rise that leads to a bubble the correction is $20 of that going away not the whole $100 rise. and that is the part that people confuse. they think the whole $100 should go away and price should go back to the initial value for the bubble to stop existing.

although you should not confuse a "bubble" in a real asset like bitcoin with a "bubble" in a pump and dump altcoins. the later is completely fake price so it needs to go back down to initial value. in other words it needs to lose the whole $100 rise to exit the bubble.
newbie
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I do not understand economics and find it very interesting to discuss. Bitcoin is behaving unlike a stock, but somewhat like a bond. It's make money, medium of exchange, store value, etc. If the bitcoin is as good as the money after the initial monetization period, there is no reason not to assume that it will no longer perform the function of money and that loss of premium is an unlikely benefit. its. There are very few case studies for this occurrence in monetary history. We are in a non-exploration territory. Good money tends to hoard, not spend. Periodically, usually after a hyperinflation boom, people are kicked, dragged and forced to use good money, before they are seduced by easy money again. And the final price stability is anyone, guess. This is my personal opinion that bubbles are just beginning. News sites are starting to talk about it and that just makes demand rise.
legendary
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September 23, 2018, 05:06:34 AM
#45
Just because there is explosive growth does not mean we are in a bubble, sometimes things grow in value very suddenly due to a massive increase in the utility value offered by the item in question. Cryptocurrency is one example of the latter, the utility of cryptocurrency massively increased in the period from when it was first introduced until now, with smart contracts and decentralized applications being added to the mix, stable coins, ETFs, futures etc. There is no reason to believe this is a bubble.
newbie
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September 23, 2018, 04:37:34 AM
#44
Bitcoin is behaving unlike a stock, but somewhat like a bond. In a word, it's making money. Means of exchange, value storage, etc. If the bitcoin is as good as the money after the initial monetization period, there is no reason not to assume that it will no longer perform the function of money and that loss of premium is an unlikely benefit. its. There are very few case studies for this occurrence in monetary history. We are in a non-exploration territory.
full member
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if I think the market situation is still falling. because the price of bitcoin and altcoin are still cheap. so many people are choosing to keep hold of their assets .
newbie
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Bitcoin is not a bubble but the fact that its gold is always rising up and up.
I have proved it, a lot of money got from Bitcoin.

if you from 2011 up to now save your Bitcoin, maybe now this year (2018) will be a rich man.
full member
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yes its not bubble , for example to mine bitcoin it cost around 6k now, so how its bubble if you will work for minus.
newbie
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Actually the current market is buble because the increase not to the rules and is difficult to guess.bitcoin too much volatility.
newbie
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The value of a bitcoin is determined by the confidence that people have in the currency, so the only way for the value to collapse is a sudden loss of confidence. People are speculating about the future value of Bitcoin - this does not mean we are in a bubble. Of course we can not know what the value is not Bitcoin's bubble and also if we are not in the bubble, in the end, because this is how the crowd mentality works. But it really can not say if we have. But this is only for the money transfer part of the system, what with the 'storage value' section?
newbie
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1.Taking a short position is the way to benefit from a bubble, BUT:
2.Markets can stay stupid way longer than you can remain liquid.
In other words: you can make money out of this if (a) you approximately know when this bubble will burst, or (b) you got very, very deep pockets.

Good luck Wink
newbie
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 I will not argue if there is in fact a bubble or not, as it is demonstrated that predicting the value of cryptocurrencies is extremely difficult and subjective. However when I think about a bubble in a given market, my perception is…
 Everyone knows this market and how good it is!
I have 4 or 5 friend that got rich by it, I must invest at all cost having no idea what investing is
We are all going to be rich by next year
I see some of these already happening, but not on a massive scale! At least for now…
 Take into account that people are investing although every financial “expert” is calling it a bubble. This means that the market is not oblivious to this possibility, it just strongly disagrees that the road is coming to an end.
So, in my opinion there is still a pleasant journey ahead for us to explore! Just imagine if ETF’s (everyone is burying their money in these) start trading crypto, it will be a wild ride!
newbie
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bitcoin too much volatility. Maybe someday it will collapse that we can not even imagine it.
newbie
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I find it pretty crazy how fast it is growing! I will not complain though, even if my lottery players are less, the prize continues to increase. That's what it needs IMHO the most.
hero member
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For two weeks and no major reasons other than speculation, the price has gone from 2$/BTC to over 8$/BTC ....I've been on the forums for a long enough time to say that people talk more about getting rigs for mining, selling the currency for USD (equivalent), on pure speculation of the price. The actual commerce behind it isn't backing the price. I don't want Bitcoin to fail (I don't think it will in the long run) but bubbles hurt when they pop & market crashes are bad.

I don't believe 2$ to 8$ within two weeks is a healthy jump with so little to back it up. People are making such a killing in exchange rates at that point, the Bitcoin becomes the commodity itself to sell for an insane exchange rate.
As we all know that bitcoin is a volatile crypto currency and apart from its volatile nature, foremost, it is an kind of investment and this is very common in every kind of investment that its valuation goes ups and downs and that is why people always says that all the investment are subject to market risk and the same is applicable for bitcoin also that its valuation flactuates and on that basis if you are calling bitcoin a bubble them obviously this will not be justified ever.
newbie
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This is my personal opinion that bubbles are just beginning. The last stable price is predicted by anyone. News sites are starting to talk about it and that just makes demand rise. I'm eagerly watching to see how many people start participating in the BTC as a means of payment.
full member
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For two weeks and no major reasons other than speculation, the price has gone from 2$/BTC to over 8$/BTC ....I've been on the forums for a long enough time to say that people talk more about getting rigs for mining, selling the currency for USD (equivalent), on pure speculation of the price. The actual commerce behind it isn't backing the price. I don't want Bitcoin to fail (I don't think it will in the long run) but bubbles hurt when they pop & market crashes are bad.

I don't believe 2$ to 8$ within two weeks is a healthy jump with so little to back it up. People are making such a killing in exchange rates at that point, the Bitcoin becomes the commodity itself to sell for an insane exchange rate.
As per the definition of bubbles if it is hurt or someone or something touch it or just some sort of period of time, it will burst. But as we all know, as we enumerated what bitcoin have succeeded as this very moment, it is not probably a bubble. If it is just a bubble it iwas burst long time ago therefore bitcoin is not a bubble.
newbie
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Actually the current market is buble because the increase, decrease not according to the rules and is difficult to guess
member
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what metrics one would use to detect a bitcoin dubbls,  I have no idea. And the final stabilized price is anybody ,guess.

holly mother of necros! The topic is from 2011.

Point take though...people have been calling bitcoin a bubble for 7 years Smiley
newbie
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what metrics one would use to detect a bitcoin dubbls,  I have no idea. And the final stabilized price is anybody ,guess.
legendary
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Live and enjoy experiments
Good money tends to be hoarded, not spent. This will be a good test of Gresham's law. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bad-money-drives-out-good-3450

Periodically, usually after bouts of hyperinflation, people are kicked, dragged and forced to use good money, before they are seduced by easy money one more time.
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