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April 12, 2017, 05:12:27 AM
How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

Gambling sites is controlled by a certain or specific company while Trading is controlled by the traders itself. If the traders will stop trading, the site will be static, while gambling is still on going. They also have similarities as well. For example, predicting what will be the price of the currency for tomorrow in Trading while in gambling, predicting if you will win or lose on that bet.
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April 12, 2017, 01:30:45 AM
The difference of a trading and gambling. But both of this is good. Trading is an investment that you want your money back with a high profit and value, and you put your money for the investment and more trade you want. While gambling is make just fun, and just like a game and lottery that whether you win or you lose and you take a risk.You can control and limit your money in a gamble.
Gambling is not good because it just a money waster where you put your money and you waste it by playing their gambling games that are all random system. Gambling is not for people want serious source of bitcoin because it just for people who have extra money and also who want extra fun. If you are looking for a good source of income then stay away in gambling and stay close in trading.
Good suggestion, Gambling is not a good source to make money, Here we are not sure that our investment will come back with profit. Most of the time we lose our investment. But Trading is not like that we can put trust on trading that we can make some profit at the end. And it is not like the lucky game it is a mind game.
Yes that is true, it is a mind game where we use our mind to play or get profits in that field, we don't use lucks there because lucks is just for the weak persons and those who are lazy because if you really a good investor then you will use your mind to analyze the game properly and make the best out of it and make the biggest profit that you can ever do in doing trading.
legendary
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April 11, 2017, 01:45:04 PM
because trading is not making a loss of 100% in some time. when you gamble, then you have to bet money or your precious stuff, and if you lose, then you will lose it. but, in trading, if you predict wrong, then you just lose a little bit of money you bet, or just 50%. maybe that's where the differences in gambling and trading.
legendary
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April 11, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
The difference of a trading and gambling. But both of this is good. Trading is an investment that you want your money back with a high profit and value, and you put your money for the investment and more trade you want. While gambling is make just fun, and just like a game and lottery that whether you win or you lose and you take a risk.You can control and limit your money in a gamble.
Gambling is not good because it just a money waster where you put your money and you waste it by playing their gambling games that are all random system. Gambling is not for people want serious source of bitcoin because it just for people who have extra money and also who want extra fun. If you are looking for a good source of income then stay away in gambling and stay close in trading.
Good suggestion, Gambling is not a good source to make money, Here we are not sure that our investment will come back with profit. Most of the time we lose our investment. But Trading is not like that we can put trust on trading that we can make some profit at the end. And it is not like the lucky game it is a mind game.
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April 11, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Trading is not gambling because gambling is a game for entertainment and trading is business and investment..
Trading is a good choice to invest and it needs to study in order to make a good profit.. that is why people are losing in trading because they are deciding a wrong decision.. investing in altcoin is very risky.. much better to trade with bitcoin every time the price is increase set your own margin..
try this site for analysis https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
If you can see the right side you can see wall for buy and sell.. and the movement of trading is fast. not a movement of fluctuate..
much better to stay in bitcoin the more you invest the more you can make a good profit..
We have a same thought about gambling and trading. Trading is way different on gambling because in trading there is no luck needed but a hard work and focus. And in trading there is more probability to earn because you are the one who will manage it and not just bot that does not have good decision making. But there is a common denominator on the two. Both has risk if you will do it but in trading it worth the risk because it is not jut gambling your bitcoin on a low probability way.
legendary
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April 11, 2017, 09:12:13 AM
The difference of a trading and gambling. But both of this is good. Trading is an investment that you want your money back with a high profit and value, and you put your money for the investment and more trade you want. While gambling is make just fun, and just like a game and lottery that whether you win or you lose and you take a risk.You can control and limit your money in a gamble.

That doesn't make any sense. If gamblers have accepted the outcome whether win or lose, then they will not have any positive feelings/emotions towards winning at all. The only thing that makes gambling fun is the feeling that you get when you win most especially if you did a really risky bet and then you won.

You can control and limit your money in trading as well. There's almost no difference between the two when it comes to how it works and what's the goal of the person doing it. In both trading and gambling, it's also fun when you win. You want high profit when you're trading as well as when you're gambling.
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April 11, 2017, 01:49:17 AM
The difference of a trading and gambling. But both of this is good. Trading is an investment that you want your money back with a high profit and value, and you put your money for the investment and more trade you want. While gambling is make just fun, and just like a game and lottery that whether you win or you lose and you take a risk.You can control and limit your money in a gamble.
Gambling is not good because it just a money waster where you put your money and you waste it by playing their gambling games that are all random system. Gambling is not for people want serious source of bitcoin because it just for people who have extra money and also who want extra fun. If you are looking for a good source of income then stay away in gambling and stay close in trading.
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April 10, 2017, 11:01:36 PM
The difference of a trading and gambling. But both of this is good. Trading is an investment that you want your money back with a high profit and value, and you put your money for the investment and more trade you want. While gambling is make just fun, and just like a game and lottery that whether you win or you lose and you take a risk.You can control and limit your money in a gamble.
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April 10, 2017, 10:27:27 PM
Hard to explain how trading is different from gambling. But here is a thing that just came to my mind, in trading you are all in to make money. But in gambling you do in primarily for fun or entertainment. Making money comes second in gambling. And you can control your losses in trading more than in gambling.
i do not think that it is such a hard to explain, as the main difference between gambling and trading is that gambling is more risky than trading,

If people do the trading without any knowledge of trading then it is also similar to trading because they are just trading based on believe or luck. Gambling games are mainly for fun and entertainment so you need to spend money for these entertainments. If you manage trading well then you can surely make decent profits over the time but in gambling, it is not possible to make a profit in the longer run.

If those people are trading without any enough knowledge to do good trades then it is safe to say that they are gambling because they don't know what to do and they just go and go and buy and sell without great analysis. Trading is not a gambling if you know what you are doing and if you know how to make profit in a short or longer run of trades, it is all about knowledge and skills and also experience.

and this is why we need to learn to make analysis so our trading is not only gambling and we can determine in what range price we want to sell. this is works to when we want to buy the coins, we need to analyze the down trend and we need to place our buy order in price we want. don't be too greedy if we see that the price is increase, at least we can get profit, i think its enough and we can trying to do more with other coins.

trade or gambling, it all for profit, but the dfference is, if a bneficial trade for all parties, while gambling only benefit the two people, the bookies and those who win gambling .. of course it transaction not good, but beneficial trade for all parties, the transaction happen because they need each other, no one feels lost and all will balanced between sellers and buyers, gambling requires skill and luck to win and make the opponent bankrupt. trade also requires skill and luck like gambling, but not only that, the thing I think is important is trade requires trust,.. trust of others and trust to other people, of course you are going to buy something of smeone you trust, and you will sell goods to people the ones that you trust, and it is a good transaction ,, in gambling we may not trust each other, there is only suspicion, fear, and each wants to drop ...it is my opinion ...So, let us trade and gamble ...hehehe.. Grin Grin Grin Cool
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April 10, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
Trading is different from gambling in trading you will learn technical and fundamental analysis with respect to trading unlike gambling which is like tossing of a coin.
Agreed.
Most of all gambling games is based on luck and we have more losses than winnings.
Unlike trading we have a control of our money flow.

Yeah making money from gambling will depend only on luck and no skills or strategy will help you in it but trading is far different and better way of earning money in compare to gambling as if you have good skills then you can make good profits from it.

I do not agree as gambling is an art of both skill and luck!
Reason being gamblers develop discipline and experience and  if a gambler goes into trading the go in with a sixth sense and will not crack or attach emotions and will apply the same principles while trading...Which makes trading no different from gambling.
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April 10, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
The only thing that gambling and trading have in common is that they both have a (big) risk factor. From there they can't be viewed in the same light imo.
But I believe only the risk factor and how we are going to tackle those risks makes some people here to think about both trading and gambling as one similar thing. When risk is common and how we are managing it is common why not both of trading and gambling could be performed in similar way ?

Gambling requires alot of luck and isn't as profitable as trading in the long run, the house wins in the long run most of the times. Trading can be quite sustainable in the long run if you've done a good technical analysis and a complete background check of the coins you're trading. Just because it takes risk doesn't make it gambling imo.
When people using their luck to make profits from both trading and gambling, they are somewhat successful and they could not distinguish these two as two different fields. In my personal experience, I could not make profits in trading only by having strong skill and knowledge. I believe I must need luck in trading too.
I agree with the luck factor. Both trading and gambling need some luck to be successful yet trading is more sustainable and that's the point I'm trying to make. With gambling you'll always have the house, and in the long run it will screw you over and you'll end up losing a lot of your initial investment since most of the games are designed for them to make money not the user. Trading doesn't have a 'house', other than the broker but they don't control the market. You're essentially playing with the market. The market is irrational and somewhat unpredictable at times but yet it can be extremely profitable if used right without any foolish mistakes.
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April 10, 2017, 10:13:37 AM
The only thing that gambling and trading have in common is that they both have a (big) risk factor. From there they can't be viewed in the same light imo.
But I believe only the risk factor and how we are going to tackle those risks makes some people here to think about both trading and gambling as one similar thing. When risk is common and how we are managing it is common why not both of trading and gambling could be performed in similar way ?

Gambling requires alot of luck and isn't as profitable as trading in the long run, the house wins in the long run most of the times. Trading can be quite sustainable in the long run if you've done a good technical analysis and a complete background check of the coins you're trading. Just because it takes risk doesn't make it gambling imo.
When people using their luck to make profits from both trading and gambling, they are somewhat successful and they could not distinguish these two as two different fields. In my personal experience, I could not make profits in trading only by having strong skill and knowledge. I believe I must need luck in trading too.
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April 10, 2017, 06:44:39 AM
Hard to explain how trading is different from gambling. But here is a thing that just came to my mind, in trading you are all in to make money. But in gambling you do in primarily for fun or entertainment. Making money comes second in gambling. And you can control your losses in trading more than in gambling.
i do not think that it is such a hard to explain, as the main difference between gambling and trading is that gambling is more risky than trading,

I think in both of them we can easily there is risk involved in it, but trading is also considered as gambling because we don't know how much money we are going to make and how long the coin can existence in the market.
In my opinion, trading it is not like gambling because we must have
the skill to be able to understand all aspects of the coin and should be able to
read their charts in the market. Unlike with gambling that need the luck factor only.

Yes gambling is totally based on luck and no experience or skills can help you in winning money in it but trading allows you to make decent profits if you study the market well and analyze the charts in proper way.
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April 10, 2017, 06:19:29 AM
Hard to explain how trading is different from gambling. But here is a thing that just came to my mind, in trading you are all in to make money. But in gambling you do in primarily for fun or entertainment. Making money comes second in gambling. And you can control your losses in trading more than in gambling.
i do not think that it is such a hard to explain, as the main difference between gambling and trading is that gambling is more risky than trading,

I think in both of them we can easily there is risk involved in it, but trading is also considered as gambling because we don't know how much money we are going to make and how long the coin can existence in the market.
In my opinion, trading it is not like gambling because we must have
the skill to be able to understand all aspects of the coin and should be able to
read their charts in the market. Unlike with gambling that need the luck factor only.
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April 10, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
The only thing that gambling and trading have in common is that they both have a (big) risk factor. From there they can't be viewed in the same light imo. Gambling requires alot of luck and isn't as profitable as trading in the long run, the house wins in the long run most of the times. Trading can be quite sustainable in the long run if you've done a good technical analysis and a complete background check of the coins you're trading. Just because it takes risk doesn't make it gambling imo.
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April 10, 2017, 05:45:05 AM
Hard to explain how trading is different from gambling. But here is a thing that just came to my mind, in trading you are all in to make money. But in gambling you do in primarily for fun or entertainment. Making money comes second in gambling. And you can control your losses in trading more than in gambling.
i do not think that it is such a hard to explain, as the main difference between gambling and trading is that gambling is more risky than trading,

I think in both of them we can easily there is risk involved in it, but trading is also considered as gambling because we don't know how much money we are going to make and how long the coin can existence in the market.
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April 10, 2017, 05:33:06 AM
Trading is different from gambling in trading you will learn technical and fundamental analysis with respect to trading unlike gambling which is like tossing of a coin.
Agreed.
Most of all gambling games is based on luck and we have more losses than winnings.
Unlike trading we have a control of our money flow.

Yeah making money from gambling will depend only on luck and no skills or strategy will help you in it but trading is far different and better way of earning money in compare to gambling as if you have good skills then you can make good profits from it.
Good skills alone doesn't gonna profit you good. You need to have a big backing investment along with skills. With trading the profiting happens respect to the amount we keep hold. With gambling a small amount with additional transaction fee is enough to make a better earning if lucky.
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April 10, 2017, 04:50:08 AM
Hard to explain how trading is different from gambling. But here is a thing that just came to my mind, in trading you are all in to make money. But in gambling you do in primarily for fun or entertainment. Making money comes second in gambling. And you can control your losses in trading more than in gambling.
i do not think that it is such a hard to explain, as the main difference between gambling and trading is that gambling is more risky than trading,

Not just riskier, it's more than that. You need a tremendous amount of luck when you gamble and there is a huge possibility of losing everything. That means take 0.5BTC for gambling and come out with nothing.. Trading is not like that, you can plan, make a strategy, think of what you can lose and what not. Gambling is different from trading.
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April 10, 2017, 02:25:41 AM
Trading is different from gambling in trading you will learn technical and fundamental analysis with respect to trading unlike gambling which is like tossing of a coin.
Agreed.
Most of all gambling games is based on luck and we have more losses than winnings.
Unlike trading we have a control of our money flow.

Yeah making money from gambling will depend only on luck and no skills or strategy will help you in it but trading is far different and better way of earning money in compare to gambling as if you have good skills then you can make good profits from it.
Not all the time, sometimes you also need skills in order to win because that would only give you a chance to be consistent, when you are lucky you will win but human nature that we will not stop until we win a bigger amount that would satisfy us, so most likely our winnings will be lose again when we gamble again. I think it's a cycle but with luck only, we will also end up losing for sure.
Skills is not just for sometimes because it is always required in any kind of field. If you have a lot of skills then it means that you have a lot of knowledge that is benefited from your experiences. Skills are not only applied in trading but also in any other field like investments and many more. Just keep enhancing your skills and soon you will not depend on luck.
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April 10, 2017, 02:18:35 AM
Trading is different from gambling in trading you will learn technical and fundamental analysis with respect to trading unlike gambling which is like tossing of a coin.
Agreed.
Most of all gambling games is based on luck and we have more losses than winnings.
Unlike trading we have a control of our money flow.

Yeah making money from gambling will depend only on luck and no skills or strategy will help you in it but trading is far different and better way of earning money in compare to gambling as if you have good skills then you can make good profits from it.
Not all the time, sometimes you also need skills in order to win because that would only give you a chance to be consistent, when you are lucky you will win but human nature that we will not stop until we win a bigger amount that would satisfy us, so most likely our winnings will be lose again when we gamble again. I think it's a cycle but with luck only, we will also end up losing for sure.
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