How is trading *not* gambling? - page 16.

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How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

I think this will really be depend on the understanding of individuals, even we emphasize several times here that trading is different in gambling others may not understand it so well, but their differences are very simple only, trading is a kind of assets or investment which you need to analyze and to minimize the risk involved in it. while gambling is just a form of amusement type only.

And in gambling is just lucky factor that is able to make us to gain a profit,
Not need for lessons to become a professional gambler. That's very different with trading.

Yes trading is very different in gambling because gambling is all about random and luck while trading is can be learn by someone and take advantage of his knowledge while gambling is all about just go with the flow and trusting for his luck. In scaling which gives more profit there is not doubt that trading gives profit because you can easily get profit since there are basis in making trades or decision while in gambling doesn't have.

Well, with gambling no person who gained wealth. That there are in fact bankrupt in our real business.
Whereas with trading, many people who become rich by trading.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on March 14, 2017, 09:07:54 AM

certainly there is a big difference between gambling with trades. I think a trade is a job that requires 80% accurate analysis, so we need a high precision. while gambling is a game that relies on luck, for me 80% of luck is needed to win a gambling game. concluded the gambling and trading are different things.

yes that is very right to say that trading is almost different from gambling. i think trading is most difficult job, because if a person want to make money from trading then he need to get good experience in trading. while in gambling we do not need for any kind of experience and skill.

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Quote from: poetra2501 on March 14, 2017, 09:17:56 AM

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

I think this will really be depend on the understanding of individuals, even we emphasize several times here that trading is different in gambling others may not understand it so well, but their differences are very simple only, trading is a kind of assets or investment which you need to analyze and to minimize the risk involved in it. while gambling is just a form of amusement type only.

And in gambling is just lucky factor that is able to make us to gain a profit,
Not need for lessons to become a professional gambler. That's very different with trading.

Yes trading is very different in gambling because gambling is all about random and luck while trading is can be learn by someone and take advantage of his knowledge while gambling is all about just go with the flow and trusting for his luck. In scaling which gives more profit there is not doubt that trading gives profit because you can easily get profit since there are basis in making trades or decision while in gambling doesn't have.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on March 14, 2017, 09:07:54 AM

certainly there is a big difference between gambling with trades. I think a trade is a job that requires 80% accurate analysis, so we need a high precision. while gambling is a game that relies on luck, for me 80% of luck is needed to win a gambling game. concluded the gambling and trading are different things.

I can agree with your skill/luck percentage when it comes to trading, but not per se with how you see gambling. It highly depend on what game you are playing. In some cases like poker it's also the understanding of the game that gains you an advantage, but in general gambling is just gambling. Slots, dice, roulette, etc. These are games that require you to have the full 100% of luck -- zero skills are involved here.

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

I think this will really be depend on the understanding of individuals, even we emphasize several times here that trading is different in gambling others may not understand it so well, but their differences are very simple only, trading is a kind of assets or investment which you need to analyze and to minimize the risk involved in it. while gambling is just a form of amusement type only.

And in gambling is just lucky factor that is able to make us to gain a profit,
Not need for lessons to become a professional gambler. That's very different with trading.

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certainly there is a big difference between gambling with trades. I think a trade is a job that requires 80% accurate analysis, so we need a high precision. while gambling is a game that relies on luck, for me 80% of luck is needed to win a gambling game. concluded the gambling and trading are different things.

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

Trading can never be like gambling, in my opinion I treated trading as my own business, where I need to buy something that I need to sell it to my customers who'll gonna have interest to what I sell. Which is a kind of investment to me also. Wink

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Quote from: ArdiPrabowo on March 14, 2017, 12:33:54 AM

trading without gambling
before open position, you must analys reseach you wan buy, and then youre must use realible take profit and use stop lost
so you can say trading not gambling, because trading diference with gambling

It is really hard to analyze the bitcoin or the crypto currency market as there are not much information regarding it and it is hard to understand how and when the price is increasing and what is the reason for the price rise.I am seeing a huge amount of push is several alt coins right now and i am not sure why that is and would like to know about it. Stock trading is not gambling but i am not certain about the crypto trading.

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

I think trading is like an investment for me, trading also is no need to place a bet or what so ever jist place your investment and wait in short trading is mostly buy/sell and this needs an brain althrough trading and gambling are risky but for me trading is not

The difference of gambling is putting your money in 50/50 if it win x2 but if it lose.... Boom!! Haha but in trading you can control your money event it the altcoin dump

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

Technical analysis (apart from following the trend) is a big pile of lies

But to follow a trend you don't need any analysis at all. You just look at the chart (weekly or monthly), and it is obvious where the price is going. Other than that, if you don't understand what's going on in the market, you'd better stay away from it altogether since trading there will be exactly that, i.e. gambling, and you will most likely end up with losses. Just an example here, when some folks tried to provoke or encourage the Winklevoss ETF hype across the forum and Internet at large, it was evident that there was no substance behind that endeavor, and when the price flash crashed, people who know where the Bitcoin market is going nowadays didn't let slip this opportunity to buy in and then book hefty profits. And this example has also shown how meaningless is TA in the Bitcoin market (and in other markets as well, for that matter)

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

I think this will really be depend on the understanding of individuals, even we emphasize several times here that trading is different in gambling others may not understand it so well, but their differences are very simple only, trading is a kind of assets or investment which you need to analyze and to minimize the risk involved in it. while gambling is just a form of amusement type only.

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trading without gambling
before open position, you must analys reseach you wan buy, and then youre must use realible take profit and use stop lost
so you can say trading not gambling, because trading diference with gambling

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on March 13, 2017, 08:52:53 PM

Trading and gambling got a bit similarity, some part of trading is gambling because we only speculated and guessing based on the chart and news we got and some people based on knowledge and intuition, when you bet something that is not certain, it is consider as gambling

well for those who understand the trade they are placing their investment and waiting for the positive outcome, while in gambling you are staking your money with 50/50 results win or lose, while in trading you still got a good chance to lessen your loses and making your earning much bigger than double so there's a lots of differences.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on March 13, 2017, 08:52:53 PM

Trading and gambling got a bit similarity, some part of trading is gambling because we only speculated and guessing based on the chart and news we got and some people based on knowledge and intuition, when you bet something that is not certain, it is consider as gambling

It is almost the same, though the only difference is, on Gambling you bet to win an easy price, though it is not that sure, it has risks, well gambling is all about risks. Trading is giving something to make profit, though, trading is all about profit but it still has risks, that is why it is considered gambling. Trading and Gambling has risks which is really making them so similar.

Trade has a part to gambling such as swapping technique, forwarding and options, if we just do technical analysis with a clear spot, then it's a pure trade.

Gambling in trading is to be uncertain and chancy, not the case with trading who have financial management, fundamental analysis, and even a win win solution system with money and variety of physical economy lawful in all states.

Movement volatile market allows us to benefit 100%. So if our minds are healthy, we will do the trade with good technique.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on March 13, 2017, 08:52:53 PM

Trading and gambling got a bit similarity, some part of trading is gambling because we only speculated and guessing based on the chart and news we got and some people based on knowledge and intuition, when you bet something that is not certain, it is consider as gambling

It is almost the same, though the only difference is, on Gambling you bet to win an easy price, though it is not that sure, it has risks, well gambling is all about risks. Trading is giving something to make profit, though, trading is all about profit but it still has risks, that is why it is considered gambling. Trading and Gambling has risks which is really making them so similar.

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Trading and gambling got a bit similarity, some part of trading is gambling because we only speculated and guessing based on the chart and news we got and some people based on knowledge and intuition, when you bet something that is not certain, it is consider as gambling

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 19, 2017, 06:43:55 PM

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

Here is how to trade safely and trade with sure profit fisrt you need a large amount of money because the dump and pump in not that high because you should pick legit coin like litecoin, dodgecoin and etherum. In that coins you can see that all of that are legit coin and it's good to invest in that coin because your money is guarantee safe and you will earn large if your investment is large to buy low and sell high is a must to earn in legit coin. So if you want to trade not to gamble in not legit coin, you should follow my tips. Thank you

Trading is more stable that gambling . Even both has a risk , in tradint there is a higher probabilty to earn rather than gambling. And if you are looking forward to a real deal earnings, the best way is to not consider gambling anymore. Just focus on your tradings or even better try signature campagin and post to earn. In fact you can invest for your tradings if you are earning in signature campaign so no doubt you will earn better than before.

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Whatever people say for me there is no big difference between trading and gambling

You could become long term bitcoin holders, since the creation of bitcoin, this revolutionized technology is gaining growing attention and the price is on the uptrend although some retreat. check here http://coinour.com/index.php/three-kind-of-bitcoin-traders-and-their-winning-strategies/

this is a good option for people which don't want to do anything with their bitcoin, the more they saving bitcoin, the more they can gets benefit from bitcoin itself and in the future, i am sure that they will make big money when the price is reach higher price. but for the hold that only have small until medium, they only aware that sometimes bitcoin price is to go up and down too often and this could make they can not hold for a long time.

Trading and gambling has a big difference in any aspect, they just have one common thing and that is they required bitcoin/fiat for you to join it.
They just only said that trading is just gambling because you are just taking the risk specially when you a first timer. But it doesn't mean they are the same, gambling depends on luck while trading depends on your strategy and how patiently you are.

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Quote from: dodgecharger on March 12, 2017, 09:52:59 AM

Quote from: naville on January 20, 2017, 05:38:23 PM

Whatever people say for me there is no big difference between trading and gambling

You could become long term bitcoin holders, since the creation of bitcoin, this revolutionized technology is gaining growing attention and the price is on the uptrend although some retreat. check here http://coinour.com/index.php/three-kind-of-bitcoin-traders-and-their-winning-strategies/

this is a good option for people which don't want to do anything with their bitcoin, the more they saving bitcoin, the more they can gets benefit from bitcoin itself and in the future, i am sure that they will make big money when the price is reach higher price. but for the hold that only have small until medium, they only aware that sometimes bitcoin price is to go up and down too often and this could make they can not hold for a long time.

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Quote from: Winitall on March 12, 2017, 10:46:41 AM

They overlap. You can make gambling your profession then it is less entertainment. Or without controlling fear and greed enough trading became pure gambling.

I would rather say that a distorted form of trading is known is gambling. Trading without any proper indicators or knowledge is gambling but trading in core has a completely different meaning and anyone calling trading as gambling is a noob. Because if you see guys who are the richest in the world then you would find that many of them are traders while none is a gambler.

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