How LBC blocked my 5000$ without any reasons - page 2.

timerland

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What LBC is trying to do is that they are trying to uphold the integrity of their escrow system, and their promise that the traders of both sides will always be protected.

They do have reasonable evidence to at least suspect that you are an alt account of the account that has been previously banned, so from their perspective, they are simply trying to use the funds in your current account as 'motivation' for you to resolve any problems with the other account. Sort of like legal blackmail, if you will.

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I went to the police, where I was told that they could not help because they had no evidence that I owned the Pepapig1844 account. There is a presumption of innocence in my country and until my involvement in a crime is proved, I cannot be called guilty. Help me solve this problem, I first encountered the arbitrariness of the administration of the exchange, I never thought that they had the right to block my funds without giving reasons.
If someone has already encountered a similar problem, I ask lawyers to contact me to make a lawsuit against the illegal actions of the exchange.

You don't need any evidence that you own the account. You're trying to prove the other way around.

As squatter said, place emphasis on the fact that your documents were stolen and that there is $5k or so at stake. Don't go into the mumbo-jumbo of bitcoin jargon or too much about Localbitcoins, just keep it simple and ask them to file a case.

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Quote from: dunfida on July 17, 2019, 10:11:29 AM

How the hell that hermanproudfoot account and Peppapig is the same? Just looking on the profile of those 2 where on is being created 2 weeks ago and that Peppapig was created 3 years ago.LBC support response isnt really that convincing on my part which they havent clarified

Both accounts used the same ID documents to verify. Normally, a service would just close one account and transfer funds to the other, but in this case there are fraud allegations.

Quote from: hermanproudfoot on July 17, 2019, 08:17:16 AM

I went to the police, where I was told that they could not help because they had no evidence that I owned the Pepapig1844 account.

Did you tell the police this may be a case of identity theft? It looks like someone stole your documents -- maybe they were sold on the dark web -- and used them to verify the Pepapig1844 account on Localbitcoins.

The police should open a case for identity theft and give you a case #. Then you should give that case # to Localbitcoins support.

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I stopped using localbitcoin because I always had problems with them, they are the worst place to buy bitcoin look at the amount of people complaining about them:

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report your case to the police, here are the data to facilitate your task:

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Quote from: hermanproudfoot on July 17, 2019, 11:54:12 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 11:41:52 AM

That's a very good question. The issue should be spotted at the time of verification. By the way, I just want to be clear here: You are the real owner of the ID?

Sure, i can make any selfie with my ID and me. I've sent them my transaction history from huobi exchange where i bought bitcoins and then sent it to LBC.

~~If you really want to post a selfie with your ID and other sensitive information then I would suggest to post them in the Investigation board.~~

Okay you can not post them in the investigation board. You will need to be at least a member but I can help you if you want. If you PM me the information then I can post the information in the Investigation board.

But before that I will suggest to create the scam accusation topic in the scam accusations board. In the topic body give the link of the investigation topic as well once it will be created. Posting the sensitive information in the Investigation board protect your privacy from Google and other search engine. They can not crawl those data and expose your personal information.

Feel free to PM me if you need help. I am online for the next one hour or so.

PS: When you take the selfie, make sure you hand write your BticoinTalk username and the username in localbitcoins in a paper to prove that the photo indeed had taken for this purpose.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 11:41:52 AM

That's a very good question. The issue should be spotted at the time of verification. By the way, I just want to be clear here: You are the real owner of the ID?

Sure, i can make any selfie with my ID and me. I've sent them my transaction history from huobi exchange where i bought bitcoins and then sent it to LBC.

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Quote from: dunfida on July 17, 2019, 10:11:29 AM

How the hell that hermanproudfoot account and Peppapig is the same? Just looking on the profile of those 2 where on is being created 2 weeks ago and that Peppapig was created 3 years ago.LBC support response isnt really that convincing on my part which they havent clarified and using up privacy as an alibi.A very hard situation and also local authorities cant help out on this one.

It's the ID that was given was same for both account.

Quote from: hermanproudfoot on July 17, 2019, 11:21:14 AM

I have a question: why did the verification system successfully accept the same ID two times? How does localbitcoins protect user data from being re-verified by other people?

That's a very good question. The issue should be spotted at the time of verification. By the way, I just want to be clear here: You are the real owner of the ID?

Quote from: hermanproudfoot on July 17, 2019, 09:17:21 AM

Thank you for answer! At first, I thought of posting my post in the scam accusations board, but then I realized that it did not correspond to the topic of the section. The exchange detained my funds and does not want to give them away, they offer impossible solutions to the situation and I do not know how to resolve this issue.

Assuming you are the real owner of the ID and in that case you should create this topic in the scam accusations board to get the targeted people for your case.

Have all the information including the transaction ID that was sent to localbitcoins account also try signing the address to prove your ownership of the from address of the transaction.

If you provide solid evidences then you will get good attention and hopefully this will awake the localbitcoins team to resolve your case in a priority base. We have seen so many examples that were solved when the awareness were raised in here.

Good luck bud.

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I have a question: why did the verification system successfully accept the same ID two times? How does localbitcoins protect user data from being re-verified by other people?

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Quote from: dunfida on July 17, 2019, 10:11:29 AM

How the hell that hermanproudfoot account and Peppapig is the same? Just looking on the profile of those 2 where on is being created 2 weeks ago and that Peppapig was created 3 years ago.LBC support response isnt really that convincing on my part which they havent clarified and using up privacy as an alibi.A very hard situation and also local authorities cant help out on this one.

We might not connect the dots based on the information provided by the OP but fyi LBC has access to all this information which includes ids, IP addresses that might have been used to make the connection.
And AFAIK opening a new account does not whitelist anyone from any past infringement and seeing the reason for this unfortunate situation I don't know how this will go but you deserve the benefit of the doubt,Good luck OP.

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How the hell that hermanproudfoot account and Peppapig is the same? Just looking on the profile of those 2 where on is being created 2 weeks ago and that Peppapig was created 3 years ago.LBC support response isnt really that convincing on my part which they havent clarified and using up privacy as an alibi.A very hard situation and also local authorities cant help out on this one.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 08:53:19 AM

You are in a very tough situation. If you are the real owner of the ID then the other guy must managed your ID illegally and was using it for his localbitcoins account.

Now, I do not see how this case will be resolved.

Asking help from the local authority for what? Identity theft?

If you file the case then how they are going to get the other guy?
Will localbitcoins disclose their information if the local authority ask?
How would they (localbitcoins) know that the request for disclosing information came from the local authority?

If you failed to provide further information then what happens with the fund that was locked? Will localbitcoins keep them? Can they really legally keep the coins?

Have they locked the other account too?

I think this is what could be a possible solution.
Send the coin back to the address it came from. Lock the other account too and if there are any balance to the other account then also send those balance where they came from once that other guy will ask for his funds.

By the way, I suggest you to move this topic to the scam accusations board and also follow the proper format so that you get attention from the DT members. Here is the format to follow:

Thank you for answer! At first, I thought of posting my post in the scam accusations board, but then I realized that it did not correspond to the topic of the section. The exchange detained my funds and does not want to give them away, they offer impossible solutions to the situation and I do not know how to resolve this issue.

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You are in a very tough situation. If you are the real owner of the ID then the other guy must managed your ID illegally and was using it for his localbitcoins account.

Now, I do not see how this case will be resolved.

Asking help from the local authority for what? Identity theft?

If you file the case then how they are going to get the other guy?
Will localbitcoins disclose their information if the local authority ask?
How would they (localbitcoins) know that the request for disclosing information came from the local authority?

If you failed to provide further information then what happens with the fund that was locked? Will localbitcoins keep them? Can they really legally keep the coins?

Have they locked the other account too?

I think this is what could be a possible solution.
Send the coin back to the address it came from. Lock the other account too and if there are any balance to the other account then also send those balance where they came from once that other guy will ask for his funds.

By the way, I suggest you to move this topic to the scam accusations board and also follow the proper format so that you get attention from the DT members. Here is the format to follow:

Quote from: escrow.ms on July 21, 2013, 12:28:05 PM

Scam Report Format

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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.

hermanproudfoot

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Hey there! LBC blocked my $ 5,000 immediately after registration and verification. How it was?
This is my account information:
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One week later, I sent 0.476 BTC from my wallet to the LBC. After three confirmations, I tried to send a part of bitcoins to another wallet and saw an error message:

Then I immediately created a ticket and asked a question about my problem, then I attach screenshots of my correspondence with the support service:
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They said that this account belongs to me, but I registered and verified my account one day earlier. How can this be?

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I went to the police, where I was told that they could not help because they had no evidence that I owned the Pepapig1844 account. There is a presumption of innocence in my country and until my involvement in a crime is proved, I cannot be called guilty. Help me solve this problem, I first encountered the arbitrariness of the administration of the exchange, I never thought that they had the right to block my funds without giving reasons.
If someone has already encountered a similar problem, I ask lawyers to contact me to make a lawsuit against the illegal actions of the exchange.

P.S. They removed my post from r/localbitcoins without any reasons.

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