Topic: How long this crisis will be? - page 15. (Read 2826 times)

China is obviously not telling the full story. They aren't counting asymptomatic cases that test positive in their official count. Reports of censorship of the media and social media are widespread. By some estimates, the death toll is 5-10x higher than the official toll: https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914


That's where I draw the line. Logically that is way too risky given China's population density. A recent international study also just came out which says laboratory origin of the corona virus is very unlikely: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3077442/coronavirus-pathogen-could-have-been-spreading-humans-decades

It all depends on if China is telling the truth or not. Many people think that China is lying right now and they still have infected people and they are not really fully recovered or nowhere near the level they think they are recovered. Hell there are people who think China purposefully did this, willing to kill their own people while trying, but they wanted to calm down the Hong Kong people and by creating a pandemic they literally shifted the topic of China suppressing Hong Kongers and now everyone talks about the pandemic.

Maybe it is true, these are after all the horrible people that still have concentration camps. However if that is true, that means we still need a cure and its going to be really horrible year for 2020, all of it. If not true then I am sure we will be better in few months when summer comes.

Unlike the old days, we our medical approach and technology is more advanced. Let's just hope that  the news that there is already a cure for Covid is real and that countries who were able to create one will lend a hand to other countries without putting money first.

Even if they come out with the medicine it will not be properly tested as many countries are urging the scientists and companies for the vaccine so they may overhaul some standard operating procedures in these times. As even the developed nations don't have the infrastructure to handle the global pandemic like this just think about the poor countries and still, the tests are not being done to everyone so the actual number may be high than this. This may be the hardest situation of this century

Hopefully, after the Governments in every country adopts in the virus and would take measures to avoid the spread of the virus, this could only take earlier for about 2 months at best. The virus have taken too much toll in the lives of the people around the globe and has affected every sector of countries. But, if this would spread even more, it could possibly take more than 2 months. Only the cure for the virus will be our last hope to end this early.

Yes this is true. Its why worldometer lists the number of recovered to be half the number that have it. Until then antibody tests just aren't worthwhile...

The only time you're tested in this country is if you begin to have severe difficulty breathing or are already dead... Its up to people themselves here to self isolate if they're at risk and for healthy people to social distance, for now... The government is busy building temporary hospitals and mortuaries and this will merely be a precaution as standard undertakers expect a fairly regular death rate.

The q4 stats for the NHS bed usage was at around 90% and I went into accident and emergency last year in the summer in one of the best resourced hospitals in the country and they all seemed extremely rushed... This seems like it'll be a huge problem unless they can source more people to help - once enough ventilators are sourced.

We're trying to minimise the curve while expecting enough healthy people to develop immunity to the virus to try to stop it spreading further. An additional risk that may or may not have been looked into is how well SARS-nCOV-2 can mutate and reinfect people that caught the first one but so far, outside of wuhan only one strain is known to have taken.

(death stats are put at about 1-2%, for the UK that's at least 1 nurse and 1 military officer per person). But data on ventilation use would be difficult to plot imo.

Every crisis begins rather abruptly and unexpectedly. There has not been a single crisis for which people were 100% ready. And so it passes, sharply and imperceptibly for all people.
People just get used to living in the face of hardships and difficulties, and then when the crisis passes, people continue to live as before, not having time to instantly rebuild and continue to live for some time as if in a crisis that has already ended. There is even such a concept of one philosopher.
This is a difficult time, but you just have to wait it, and dawn and prosperity will come.
These are typical life cycles.

I have always said that whatever internet is for information, bitcoin is for finance. The world is becoming one thanks to bitcoin and people are realizing it just now. Thanks to bitcoin anyone in the world could hire anyone around the world and pay them bitcoin and just build a company that has staff all around the world. That is something you do not see everyday, that is something actually quite remarkable when you consider how vast the world actually is.

I believe bitcoin will get a lot more adoption in the business world because of it, local economies may get affected of course, but the global bitcoin price would be affected by it as well. Even if not bitcoin, we could have USDT and a stable price of USDT means you can pay everyone dollars to their account very easily to avoid bitcoin volatility.

Unfortunately, no one knows when will this crisis end. But I believe this is not the worst pandemic in the history, i did some research and found these:
https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox
https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/

In the article listed shows the worst pandemic in human history where millions of people died, as for COVID-19 this is not the worst, there's no cure for it yet but some of the countries have confirmed recovered cases which give us hope that this will end soon no specific date but it is possible after months of lockdown or quarantine and strict social distancing would possibly help to prevent the virus to spread but to estimate it will take quite long for this to end. For the meantime, we have to understand and listen to the government's advisories and rules. Keep your house and body clean and most importantly is to stay at home with your family.

And for the good news, 146,396 is the total number of recovered patients worldwide.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Actually we cannot say how long this COVID-19 would be in different countries, but all I know is, it won't last if there are still some people who won't obey their government, if they will still go outside, if they do not take care themselves. Actually we are the ones that will kill the virus, if we will stay at home then for sure we will lessen the risk of spreading the virus.

So if we all want to kill this virus, let us all cooperate by only staying at home until this virus has gone.

Its indefinite mate and please don't ask question that impossible to find answers since even the Biggest country in the world are now struggling to Find the cure in the epidemic crisis so this market will stay this way longer.
but there is also a  good effect because look at the world now the environment is greening and the water is bluing so this only means 1 thing that the nature needs rest.

Yeah maybe that's the main purpose why the virus spread all over the world, to gain power and superiority because economy of countries starts to collapse or being damage but i think that is not the thing we need to focus, right now following safety measures is a must, staying inside your house is top priority now so that we can slow down the viris and then hopefully it dies naturally, if this crisis ends and then we found out that there is some mastermind in this i am sure the countries will take action for that, for now lets help our govn't so that this crisis will end soon

I know he changed his mind, maybe after he became infected or after realizing that his strategy didn't make sense. The only question is whether this decision was made too late, because the virus has spread quite freely for a long time and there is no doubt that a large number of people are infected.

I just check today's data for UK, and even though they only have 17,000+ infected, total deaths is 1019 which is a really big number when compared to Germany (58 000 infected/455 total deaths) or USA (123 000 infected/2229 total deaths). If the first line of defense (doctors and medical staff) get infected, it is game over - Italy is an obvious example of this scenario.

The government and PM have backtracked from that opinion because of the spike in hospitalizations. Boris Johnson has contracted COVID-19 and is now promoting the mantra of "Stay at home and save lives #StayHomeSaveLives."

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1243496858095411200

I still strongly believe such mortality rates will be drastically reduced after widespread antibody testing. All testing is currently being aimed at symptomatic cases, which means mild and asymptomatic cases are very much not being counted in estimated mortality rates.

Where I live, you can't even get tested if you have very obvious corona virus symptoms, so none of those people are being counted as "confirmed cases." Only high risk and severe (hospitalization required) cases are receiving tests. Those people are much more likely to die.

It seems there is more to this coronaVirus, than just the plague itself, the media never got off their report about it, and all government are shutting down, nations are locking down and humans are dying daily in thousands and the virus has no respect for personalities. Maybe this was designed to gain some economic power and change our world economic equation. I am in my room watching the world.

of course this crisis will continue if the world is not yet recovered, the corona virus has a huge negative impact on all countries, if the country and the world do not take this pandemic seriously we don't know this crisis will end!

Nobody knows how long will this crisis be.
Even if we find a cure now it would take time before it slows down or even heal the infected countries.
So we couldn't tell how long would it takes for us to completely go back to normal again.

I know your opinion because you have repeated it several times over the last month, but given what is currently happening in Italy and Spain, what you and your government are thinking is completely crazy. While most of the world is fighting to control the infection, you would infect the entire UK population and get a score of 5-10% of those infected dead. UK's population is close to 68 millions, so you still think 3.4 million (5%) deaths sounds good?


According to the information I found, UK is have around 4000 beds for patients with respiratory problems, Italy has about 5000 of them, and Germany is have 25 000 such beds. Given your state of mind and completely illogical thinking about how to approach this problem, I do not see how the UK can avoid what is currently happening in most European countries that have taken extreme measures not seen since World War II.

And that people stop being irrational, which is probably never going to happen. In my neighbouring country, the most new cases found yesterday why? Because idiots took home a last flight out of the UK. So they probably infected the entire plane and transit along the way too. Worst is, that country is chartering more flights to take people home. These aren't tourists, by the way, actual residents in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.


It's not the sole reason, how can it be? It's a convergence of many factors. In Europe GDP was already negative in Germany long before covid, as were the negative interest rates. The economy has been slowing down for a long, long time. In 2018 already Bank of England warned it was coming, along with ECB, and the signs became clearer in 2019. Same with Trump era "not QE" QE moves.

This was another straw, but the camel's back was already broken. Stay safe, brother.

It's just a part with a vaccine for this virus now, who can guarantee there will not be some new virus in near future? Probably nobody!
We are in dark, many people don't realize that. Of course there are news everywhere around, a good deal of news and theories, but nobody knows what really happened, is it some virus from nature, or someone made that virus, and what the fuck governments do with closing everything and printing money for bailing out big companies again. I agree with you, we will not see the end of this storm any time soon, it will just change a shape, that's it. Now everything and everyone is focused on a virus, tomorrow it will be economy, and the day after tomorrow we will see some new big war or some new and more dangerous virus... and of course we will have a good deal of news with new theories again, but nobody will know what is the truth!
For this, and many other reasons, we need transparency, total transparency! And only thing that can give us that on a global stage is blockchain.