Topic: How long until we are all forced jabbed with the vax? - page 2. (Read 274 times)

Kind of makes you wonder if all the news stories about anti-vaxxers leading up to 2020 were part of a preemptive campaign to discredit their arguments.

By the time mandatory vaccination gets here, the courts will already have ruled against them.


New Mexico: First Court Case Against Mandatory Vaccination

The potential routes to immunity are a) get vaccinated, or b) contract the virus.

Obviously vaccination is not 100% effective, and will not safeguard against all future variants. But if virus mutation is sufficient to render current vaccines irrelevant, then the vaccines will be modified accordingly - modification being in general a simple, quick process, and not really comparable to the process of deriving a new vaccine from scratch. Take the annual updating of the flu vaccine as an example here.

Vaccination or infection are the routes to immunity. Take your pick as to which is preferable.

Being vaccinated reduces natural immunity, and doesn't guarantee protection from the new variants. If we are to be given a virus passport, it should be based on a test for immunity, and not on the hope that an artificial virus infection will give immunity.

There's already been discussions from some California schools that I've been reading about which essentially say that your child must be vaccinated in order for them to return to school -- remember, the Moderna/Pfizer vaccine has not gone through clinical trials for children, the median age was in the 50's for a participant of the clinical trial. And you can be fired from your job if you refuse to get the vaccine. So yes, we are down the road of forced vaccines.

first thing. those getting a vaccine are not put on any special passport database. so forward looking its not going to be a thing.(sorry to burst conspiracy bubble)

those that want to get on a plane have to have a PRIVATE paid covid test. within 72 hours and done by a certified lab that does database the info and send it to airlines.

so here is how i see other options airlines can try.
those vaccinated/covid tested. if they could provide proof of covid-free they can enjoy business class.. no mask no fuss. and they get a complimentary glass of alcohol.,, getting the real normal airline experience

those who want to be a-holes and dont want to prove they are covid free will be asked/provided with a mask at the gate there ticket will be business class priced. but not given alcohol and have to sit in economy(spaced out seating hense higher seat cost).
if they take off the mask or create fuss. they will be treated like drunks are treated. and once off the plane they will be fined and possibly put into custody for 14 days. possibly not be able to fly on that same airline again

in short all an airline has to do
raise all seat costs to business class costs.. space out economy class. and put people that dont want to follow covid guidelines in the economy seats without the benefits of business class features

Obviously this will vary country by country (and likely also within countries), with some stricter than others. But if the vaccine prevents transmission as well as infection, then it does make perfect sense to have restrictions for unvaccinated people, who could be carriers and be infecting others. Particularly if the people without the Covid pass are those who have actively refused the vaccine, and are disproportionately likely to not wear masks or conform to social distancing measures.

no one will turn up at your door with an armed guard demanding that you are jabbed.

what will happen is if you want to travel. then you need to follow the private businesses policies they set.
so i see them having two policies
1. prove you vaccinated in last 6-12months or prove you virus negative in last 1-3 days. no issues
2. no proof. then wear a mask on the plane and have potential request to quarantine for 14 days on your arrival

businesses wont want to turn away customers. so they wont force vaccinations. they would just tailor their services

same with retailers. wear a mask. if you dont and spotted in a store without one. have your excuse for not needing one ready(medically exempt from wearing a mask)

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one thing id like to see when i decide to go travelling again.. all the seats in coach/economy. have half the rows removed. thus allowing more space for social distancing.. (well more leg room atleast )
and new air filters in the air conditioning systems(less feet sweat smells in the air atleast )

I give it by 2022.

You won`t be able to travel without your covid pass.
You won`t be able to shop without your covid pass.

The governments are planning on using their military's to dish out the vaccines.
Trump said it himself.

https://youtu.be/6ot2FFc_Qq4?t=54