How low will this bear trend go? - page 13.

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Quote from: deisik on February 09, 2018, 04:41:37 AM

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Quote from: pinkflower on February 07, 2018, 09:18:48 PM

I also disagree that prices would have surged higher. Why would they do that at their expense. Once they see that they cant make money in the market when its going up, they would start planning to make money by it going down and its what they exactly did.

Then you are not disagreeing with me

You are disagreeing with your own point. I said that they wouldn't pump Bitcoin beyond December highs so that folks who had bought at those highs or close to them wouldn't be able to profit at the expense of Wall Street. Then you said that I must have been kidding if I hadn't expected these dudes to "enter the market when BTC went to its all time high". Now you start to repeat my own words, basically ditching your own position. Obviously, that won't work out and I won't let you get away with that either. So you wanted to talk about who was kidding? You have the opportunity, go ahead

No I disagreed with you when you said that you didnt think the Wall Street pigs didnt have any involvement in the surge of BTC to all time highs. Of course they did, they always do. But I agree with you that they also have a hand in making things crash. Look at the Dow Jones. They make money when its going up and also when its going down lol.

And where exactly did I say that?

All I said that they might have had the hand in the current "fallout" and that they definitely weren't pumping Bitcoin at its December highs. Otherwise, the price would be a lot higher.

Yeah I agree that they have had direct involvement in the "current fallout". They must be having fun shorting the BTC futures market now while suppressing the price at the same time.

The part I disagreed with is the when you said they werent pumping BTC going to the all time highs. Im not saying you are wrong, Im saying that its possible that Wall Street were the people responsible of the December highs.

You know they are capable.

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Quote from: Choii on February 06, 2018, 01:44:59 AM

No one can tell what exact long this bear trend go, but for me it will never go further perhaps it's around $5k then its started to rise again and this is the time to buy more and hold until the value increase again.

I cannot tell exactly at what point this market value of bitcoin will stop tending to go down but I only know one thing and that is it is not too far once we’ll be observing the market value of the bitcoin rising once again and that too by a very significant value. This is just a temporary phase which will not last for that much long period of time. This will soon be over and things will be like the way they were before.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

I think around the level we already reached, but it is again all dependent on new regulation, we keep reaching resistance but then we are hit by another negative news story and all of the FUD around that. If 7.5k or so falls then it will be somewhere around 5-5.5k.

currently maybe all investors who have not entered their funds in bitcoin expect the price will reach the lowest point in the range of 7-5k and may be very profitable if we enter in the price range. and at a time of doubling in price, this will give birth to many new millionaires and billionaires in the bitcoin trading universe

I think so, many investors still not returned to the market, they maybe still waiting for something news like regulation, etc.
While currently price remains at $8k. I think this is a good time to buy more coins, because the big bearish will still happen after March and price will continue to rise until November.

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I think that this is just temporary. Think of the bright side of this trend. This is the right time to buy.

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Quote from: pinkflower on February 08, 2018, 09:23:08 PM

Quote from: deisik on February 08, 2018, 05:24:56 AM

Quote from: pinkflower on February 07, 2018, 09:18:48 PM

I also disagree that prices would have surged higher. Why would they do that at their expense. Once they see that they cant make money in the market when its going up, they would start planning to make money by it going down and its what they exactly did.

Then you are not disagreeing with me

You are disagreeing with your own point. I said that they wouldn't pump Bitcoin beyond December highs so that folks who had bought at those highs or close to them wouldn't be able to profit at the expense of Wall Street. Then you said that I must have been kidding if I hadn't expected these dudes to "enter the market when BTC went to its all time high". Now you start to repeat my own words, basically ditching your own position. Obviously, that won't work out and I won't let you get away with that either. So you wanted to talk about who was kidding? You have the opportunity, go ahead

No I disagreed with you when you said that you didnt think the Wall Street pigs didnt have any involvement in the surge of BTC to all time highs. Of course they did, they always do. But I agree with you that they also have a hand in making things crash. Look at the Dow Jones. They make money when its going up and also when its going down lol.

And where exactly did I say that?

All I said that they might have had the hand in the current "fallout" and that they definitely weren't pumping Bitcoin at its December highs. Otherwise, the price would be a lot higher. I never said that they didn't have any involvement in the recent surge of Bitcoin up to its highs. Essentially, I don't know, but shorting Bitcoin was easy money for them. With their money, they can borrow the whole market and then sell it to death. It was just a matter of time until the bullish sentiment and hype got exhausted. Just in case, pigs get slaughtered

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We can't really tell if how deeper does this trend will go because in my opinion, the best thing to do is to set a target price for buying and selling so if the price reaches your targets then you know what to do. You may also consider holding your cryptocurrencies because that is the best option like on this trend right now so we can avoid getting real losses for our investments.

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I think this trend will be on BTC's tail for quite a while, probably months even. Now, if this downward push continues, it would be safe to assume the lowest BTC can go would be around the 3-4k mark (as we've probably experienced). However, BTC's back up the 8k mark and I think that's a good sign. We should remain positive and keep calm with current events.

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Quote from: millgates on February 04, 2018, 10:16:13 PM

An expert have a theory of the increasing price of bitcoin. I forget his name but he a CEO of a cryptocurrency company. His theory related to the number of bitcoin users. He predict that bitcoin price reach $7500 on december 2017. So based on that then I am sure that the real price of bitcoin in february actually between $7500-7700. I think bitcoin price will not lower than $7500. It's just my oppinion.

Well, it is an opinion, but I would not want to bank my decisions on a CEO right now until I am sure of what the chart tells me. However, all these so called CEOs are in a position to know better as they would always have a way of playing with people's intelligence and emotion since they have the forces to play the market however they want it for their own benefit. We just wait and see if the $7500 truly holds.

Obviously, the big guys are not ready to buy yet and they are still waiting and gradually fueling FUD to be able to have a good time to buy in more. So far, this is what we are experiencing and no one can definitely say when the market has reached the bottom, until there is a sign it has really reached and the chances of a bull play starts showing up. I guess we just have to wait and see.

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I'm strongly think it gonna happens at least for a month more, after the Lunar New Year will be a good moment for investing back into this market. Too much volitale is the problem with this market. Bears, Whales , Sharks all those stuffs are the really scary...

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Quote from: deisik on February 08, 2018, 05:24:56 AM

Quote from: pinkflower on February 07, 2018, 09:18:48 PM

I also disagree that prices would have surged higher. Why would they do that at their expense. Once they see that they cant make money in the market when its going up, they would start planning to make money by it going down and its what they exactly did.

Then you are not disagreeing with me

You are disagreeing with your own point. I said that they wouldn't pump Bitcoin beyond December highs so that folks who had bought at those highs or close to them wouldn't be able to profit at the expense of Wall Street. Then you said that I must have been kidding if I hadn't expected these dudes to "enter the market when BTC went to its all time high". Now you start to repeat my own words, basically ditching your own position. Obviously, that won't work out and I won't let you get away with that either. So you wanted to talk about who was kidding? You have the opportunity, go ahead

No I disagreed with you when you said that you didnt think the Wall Street pigs didnt have any involvement in the surge of BTC to all time highs. Of course they did, they always do. But I agree with you that they also have a hand in making things crash. Look at the Dow Jones. They make money when its going up and also when its going down lol.

From our past debates, I know we are on the same plane. But with small differences in opinion.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

I think it already did reached the level. But at this point we still dont know where this dip would stop and when it would rise back again, and we just hope that it never hit by another negative FUD again that will caused a massive dump. But hopefully this will not fall too much and will soon be recover in few weeks or months.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

No bitcoin seems to have activated the front gear and now its price is slightly turning in to bullish trend.Its mainly due to two reasons.The FUD which led to price fall was about india banning bitcoin and it was proved false.The SEC of US has admitted that it deeply respect the people's support for the innovation crypto currencies and they don't have any idea of completely banning it.

After the price fall,bitcoin price is now $8,324 and very soon we could expect it to cross $10,000.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

Well, I am really hopeful that this trend would end up soon. Many assets in the market have been going really low, and it's frightening already. Even Bitcoin and the stronger altcoins are falling down, and that says a lot of how the market is right now. Due to this recent downfall, many people have been becoming very negative or doubtful at best if the cryptocurrency market would last long. This would give a hit on the reputation of the market and would certainly stop people from totally embracing it.

I don't think that this correction is bad for the market's reputation. On the contrary, such a correction was needed to show that the market was overheated and is now cooling down back to normal. So the fever is over and the patient is back to normal life. I'm sorry for those who panicked and bought BTC at high prices. But don't worry, just hodl. I believe BTC will recover back to this price but if the market doesn't go crazy again it will take a while, but one day you'll be in profit again. Be patient - by this I mean months/years.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

Today's virtual currencies tend to decrease, most notably Bitcoin for a variety of reasons, so the coins are down, but in my opinion, the currencies will not fall too much and will soon recover in the coming days.

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

bitcoin will go down to the price of about $ 5-6k but now the price of bitcoin has stabilized and little by little the price back up take advantage of the opportunity to buy at this cheap price.

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A bear trend are caused by news (+misinterpreted ones), whales + panic sell people. And what greatly affects the bearish trend are the whales (rich people/institutes) manipulating the market. There's so much uncertainty now but the price of bitcoin is now recovering

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i think this summer still actuel this trend near end of year will see on market volume and whale's position of Btc and than possible to talk again this trend but now looking very nice

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I'm seeing that this bear trend will go one more time before it go its way up to the moon again. the current price of bitcoin is being quite increasingly stable but it's possible to have another dip as there are still uncertainty in the air regarding what will happen to the price and how the whales will respond to this.

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I suppose we need to wait to the end of bear trend on fiat markets

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Quote from: lopez cryptomania on February 03, 2018, 12:05:31 AM

At what price do yal think will be bottom before we turn back up? I'm thinking $4,900 not to spread any FUD, however, they say when it rains it poors, and we have still yet seen people's response to this upcoming Tuesday on the 6th when all American policymakers meet, SEC and everyone else and we see what kind of regulation is made. The price will go down until the millionaires and wall street tycoons are happy to buy what they're going to buy and then we'll see it soar up to $13-$20k post regulations.

Well, I am really hopeful that this trend would end up soon. Many assets in the market have been going really low, and it's frightening already. Even Bitcoin and the stronger altcoins are falling down, and that says a lot of how the market is right now. Due to this recent downfall, many people have been becoming very negative or doubtful at best if the cryptocurrency market would last long. This would give a hit on the reputation of the market and would certainly stop people from totally embracing it.

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