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Topic: How many bitcoins will you buy at 8$? (Read 5332 times)

legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
November 07, 2012, 11:48:46 PM
#53
Now it's 11+ again



I wonder if we are going to see a steady increase in price now because of the reward change fixing to happen?

You mean you just learned about the block reward halving? We all knew about it 6 months ago on the rise from 5 to 15, where were you?  Roll Eyes


pretty much the only reason i got into bitcoin was because of the reward halving every 4 years  Cheesy

.... its priced in trust me, just sell your mined coins
full member
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Merit: 100
November 07, 2012, 11:43:12 PM
#52
Now it's 11+ again



I wonder if we are going to see a steady increase in price now because of the reward change fixing to happen?

You mean you just learned about the block reward halving? We all knew about it 6 months ago on the rise from 5 to 15, where were you?  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Trust me, these default swaps will limit the risks
November 07, 2012, 10:00:08 PM
#51
Now it's 11+ again



I wonder if we are going to see a steady increase in price now because of the reward change fixing to happen?
hero member
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Merit: 1001
November 07, 2012, 12:46:52 PM
#50
Now it's 11+ again

full member
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November 05, 2012, 02:49:15 AM
#49
The first person who wants to sell at $8usd... contact me first, please.

If it drops below $10 again we will be lucky, and I will be buying.
legendary
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November 01, 2012, 11:41:48 PM
#48
Depends on how many you are willing to sell me...
sr. member
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October 30, 2012, 10:15:25 PM
#47
I believe in BTC, and this instability does not matter to me, I compete it. I do not try to predict the future price of BTC.

On BTC drop I buy for ( x USD ) for every Cent the BTC value drops. My max. investment at this time could be ( 1050 Ct * x USD/Ct ).

On BTC rise I do sell my gainings.

Timing is medium at least this way, waiting on larger price jumps enhances my timing.

This way I cannot loose money on the long run, and I anticipate the oscillations, this stabilizing the price.

As I cannot be sure that BTC will withstand attacks forever, it's only a small part of my property, below 10%.

Think pretty similarly, though not quite as technical. I would love to see those kinds of prices, though.
legendary
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October 30, 2012, 01:26:02 PM
#46
I believe in BTC, and this instability does not matter to me, I compete it. I do not try to predict the future price of BTC.

On BTC drop I buy for ( x USD ) for every Cent the BTC value drops. My max. investment at this time could be ( 1050 Ct * x USD/Ct ).

On BTC rise I do sell my gainings.

Timing is medium at least this way, waiting on larger price jumps enhances my timing.

This way I cannot loose money on the long run, and I anticipate the oscillations, this stabilizing the price.

As I cannot be sure that BTC will withstand attacks forever, it's only a small part of my property, below 10%.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
October 30, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
#45

technically, there should also be: -10, -100, -1000,....

(I tend to sell the lows)


Cheesy

The poll does state "buy" in the title though ...

Right... and to buy -10 btc is the same as to sell 10 btc.
sr. member
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October 30, 2012, 09:05:32 AM
#44

technically, there should also be: -10, -100, -1000,....

(I tend to sell the lows)


Cheesy

The poll does state "buy" in the title though ...
donator
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Merit: 1019
October 29, 2012, 03:01:14 PM
#43
The poll is statistically incorrect. It should cover all possible options, yet is missing the None option.

technically, there should also be: -10, -100, -1000,....

(I tend to sell the lows)
sr. member
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October 29, 2012, 07:36:34 AM
#42
The poll is statistically incorrect. It should cover all possible options, yet is missing the None option.
full member
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October 28, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
#41
The only time I bought BTC it was at 20 USD, and then they crashed to 2 USD. Pray that I don't buy again.

Buy here at $10 please, so we can go back to $1 lol
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
October 28, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
#40
The only time I bought BTC it was at 20 USD, and then they crashed to 2 USD. Pray that I don't buy again.
legendary
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October 27, 2012, 07:02:50 PM
#39
all of them
newbie
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October 27, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
#38
None for $8.00 / BTC. But if it dropped to something ridiculous like $1.00 / BTC or lower I would probably buy as many as possible to sit on.  Cool


This depends on uptake by common folk - not crusaders, not criminals, not technical gurus.  Otherwise, it's only economic contribution will continue to be a way to transmit value for folks who don't like traditional transfers or can't use traditional transfers - which is a very niche market - realistically this is a no or little growth area.  In other words, common folk will only hold it for a short-time, days, ie buy some BTC, trade BTC for goods or services, but never store it for the fear of loosing value.


Niche market? Ever heard of System D?

Perhaps you're the new Nagle.

Nagle - I have no Idea what this refers to...

No, I had not heard of System D. My question, is do you think of System D as something beyond a local barter system?  I am making a few assumptions here, so feel free to correct me.
newbie
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October 27, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
#37
Bitcoin will appear dead - it may even actually be dead until the next cycle.  The problem here is that there may not be a next cycle.  This is just part of the affect of an unregulated system - cycles.  There is no one here that will defend BTC, ie act as a buyer of last resort.  This is a pure market function.  Price stability plays no role in pure capitalism.

For now, bitcoin is merely a commodity. One subject to speculation, obviously. Its monetary value is much lower (about 0.25 BTC/USD as I've recently guesstimated). To view it as a money "running an economy" at this point and discuss about it as if it was a established money is inadequate.

I'm not sure you are doing that (talking about bitcoin as a money). Are you? Because it sounds to me a bit like you are defending a regulated fiat currency system (government regulates economy). But that might be some kind of bias on my part.

Either way, maybe you can be a bit more clear on what you're talking about in the quoted paragraph.. I'd love to discuss.

From an economics point of view, I think of bitcoin as a store of work based on the fact it takes a finite amount of electricity and computational power to generate bitcoins.  So, in this way bitcoins are a form of money, ie a store of value.  However, bitcoins don't behave the same.  I believe since there is no central authority, which has an interest in defending price stability.  Because of this lack of defense against pure speculation, it acts like a commodity on the open market.  Which means wild swings that speculators use to their benefit. Now, from a purely legal regulated outlook, I suppose until some countries legal system declares otherwise, I think of bitcoins as a commodity rather than a form of money or currency.

Actually I am defending regulated fiat currencies, in so much as they provide stability and can make it unprofitable for speculators by overwhelming them.  I am not defending fiat currencies in the way they created a bureaucratic mess and their current method of monetizing debts.  However, the side affect of price stability right now is monetizing debts, so go figure, in a way I guess I am even defending that right now...

I am treating bitcion as nothing more than another payment system, although with some very interesting features.

My real point is that if people want a "economy" in bitcoin that works with bitcoin as something more than just a way to move between fiat currencies, price stability is a must.

Price of what?  Well that's a good question, right now for me, its the price of USD in BTC.  I can't seem to spend BTC on anything useful to me right now, so on it's own it's a useless store of value to me personally.  Without an BTC "economy" it doesn't make sense to hold bitcoins for non-speculators.  In a way, just holding onto bitcoins longer than a day makes one a speculator.  I don't see any benefit to holding bitcoins.  Bitcoins are not very usable for most peoples needs, ie rent, fuel, electricity - YET.  But that's the point, that yet will be pretty far out, and may never occur.  It's a huge risk to hold onto bitcoins for the future yet moment.

I am sure someone can point to a few cases where bitcoins are accepted, but these are the marketers/evangelicals of bitcoin.  At this point, t's really like the fabled SMS coke machine, it keeps being talked about year after year, but never gets any traction, from Finland to New York http://www.mobilemarketer.com/cms/news/commerce/10231.html

legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
October 27, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
#36
None for $8.00 / BTC. But if it dropped to something ridiculous like $1.00 / BTC or lower I would probably buy as many as possible to sit on.  Cool


This depends on uptake by common folk - not crusaders, not criminals, not technical gurus.  Otherwise, it's only economic contribution will continue to be a way to transmit value for folks who don't like traditional transfers or can't use traditional transfers - which is a very niche market - realistically this is a no or little growth area.  In other words, common folk will only hold it for a short-time, days, ie buy some BTC, trade BTC for goods or services, but never store it for the fear of loosing value.


Niche market? Ever heard of System D?

Perhaps you're the new Nagle.

And what if the real Nagle returns?
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
October 27, 2012, 01:59:38 PM
#35
Niche market? Ever heard of System D?

I almost forgot about that... thanks for the reminder (although I was not the recipient of the question).

For some reason this also brings to my mind the book "A lodging of wayfaring men" by Paul Rosenberg (free ebook), a great read I can recommend.
donator
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Merit: 1019
October 27, 2012, 01:55:08 PM
#34
Bitcoin will appear dead - it may even actually be dead until the next cycle.  The problem here is that there may not be a next cycle.  This is just part of the affect of an unregulated system - cycles.  There is no one here that will defend BTC, ie act as a buyer of last resort.  This is a pure market function.  Price stability plays no role in pure capitalism.

For now, bitcoin is merely a commodity. One subject to speculation, obviously. Its monetary value is much lower (about 0.25 BTC/USD as I've recently guesstimated). To view it as a money "running an economy" at this point and discuss about it as if it was a established money is inadequate.

I'm not sure you are doing that (talking about bitcoin as a money). Are you? Because it sounds to me a bit like you are defending a regulated fiat currency system (government regulates economy). But that might be some kind of bias on my part.

Either way, maybe you can be a bit more clear on what you're talking about in the quoted paragraph.. I'd love to discuss.
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