How many times have you gone against majority

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 15, 2019, 12:19:18 PM

Sometimes I do place my bets on weaker teams in sports betting, but I don't think I am trying to bet on the opposite side against the majority gamblers who placed their bets on the favorite team to win the match, I analyzed my bet based on the number of key players who are injure in the team, and the team who is playing the match in their home stadium is also another important factor which would affect my betting decision.

That is the kind of strategy I applied as well, its just sometimes as betting against the majority all the time is like blindly betting and I haven't experiment of that. Once I see that the team that is the public is betting is heavily favored, that's the time I choose to bet on the other side because they think that team has no chance of winning but in fact it will win easily.

I don't know how that happen but basically what I am saying here is just based on my experience and observation, sometimes I kinda think of fading myself if I really like the favorites to bet on.

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There are people who deliberately speak out against the majority, but when he says something against the majority, and the majority guesses, the majority does not pay attention to him. Although he goes against the majority many times, only in rare cases does he hit, and then the majority gets sad and he laughs sweetly. In my experience, I sometimes trust such people, but once I think they say it for sure, once it paid off.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 11, 2019, 02:09:00 AM

so winning that bet can be very profitable.

That is if you win that bet. Its the riskier bet and the one that needs more luck to be won. Obviously the underdog needs to outperform that game and get lucky themselves so you can win. A lot of luck involved here but yes skills from the team will give them the upper hand and might even fetch a spot in the upper table tiers.

Do your own analysis it will help here. Otherwise one can always go with the less known games where there will be similar odds on both players because the game is less known and the players may not have known each other or played before. They are more of a dice game though.

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Sometimes I do place my bets on weaker teams in sports betting, but I don't think I am trying to bet on the opposite side against the majority gamblers who placed their bets on the favorite team to win the match, I analyzed my bet based on the number of key players who are injure in the team, and the team who is playing the match in their home stadium is also another important factor which would affect my betting decision.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 11, 2019, 02:09:00 AM

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In random games, it does not really matter what a gambler is playing or who experienced he is, because the outcomes are always random. No one can really guess it and the crowd just tries to have fun.

I think you are confusing between games that have EV- outcome and those which have EV+ outcome. The former group is games like dice where you just bet on whichever side you think the dice will roll and let your luck do its work. In EV+ games a lot of skills come into play. Here the analysis of teams and players is important. Games like sports betting, poker come in this category.

So if you are going for a EV+ game then betting against the majority is not a bad thing provided your reasons are strong enough that the minority team will win.

You are right, in sports betting its like that, if you have good and strong reason to go against majority just do it. Good teams, in individual sports good players, are winning most of the time, but not all the time, even the best ones lose from time to time, to bet on their loss and win is not unusual. Every week we have favorites that lose, its hard to find those games, you really need to know the game, the teams and to search for that potential surprise. Odds on underdogs can be very high, so winning that bet can be very profitable.

If someone who’s is aware about the team and their strategy of how those play the games against the opponent and quite sure about their chances of winning should continue betting on their favourite site irrespective what the majority says . In fact higher chances of you making more money as odds would be high in such cases and you can make a lot of money by going other way.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 11, 2019, 01:25:36 AM

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In random games, it does not really matter what a gambler is playing or who experienced he is, because the outcomes are always random. No one can really guess it and the crowd just tries to have fun.

I think you are confusing between games that have EV- outcome and those which have EV+ outcome. The former group is games like dice where you just bet on whichever side you think the dice will roll and let your luck do its work. In EV+ games a lot of skills come into play. Here the analysis of teams and players is important. Games like sports betting, poker come in this category.

So if you are going for a EV+ game then betting against the majority is not a bad thing provided your reasons are strong enough that the minority team will win.

You are right, in sports betting its like that, if you have good and strong reason to go against majority just do it. Good teams, in individual sports good players, are winning most of the time, but not all the time, even the best ones lose from time to time, to bet on their loss and win is not unusual. Every week we have favorites that lose, its hard to find those games, you really need to know the game, the teams and to search for that potential surprise. Odds on underdogs can be very high, so winning that bet can be very profitable.

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In random games, it does not really matter what a gambler is playing or who experienced he is, because the outcomes are always random. No one can really guess it and the crowd just tries to have fun.

I think you are confusing between games that have EV- outcome and those which have EV+ outcome. The former group is games like dice where you just bet on whichever side you think the dice will roll and let your luck do its work. In EV+ games a lot of skills come into play. Here the analysis of teams and players is important. Games like sports betting, poker come in this category.

So if you are going for a EV+ game then betting against the majority is not a bad thing provided your reasons are strong enough that the minority team will win.

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Quote from: onrise on November 03, 2019, 07:15:08 AM

Quote from: senne on November 02, 2019, 12:36:40 PM

Quote from: Sharon121212 on September 07, 2019, 12:21:50 AM

Sport betting is strange when it wants to be, it never a sure fact the impossibility can turn possible.
When booking a bet many bets on what the majority had placed before hand.
What am I saying betting site releases games for betting and gives an option where you see what others has selected and very often it's the one with the lower odd that people place bet on.

Last week Saturday was a Turing point for me as I refused to bet with majority(31-8-2019) and placed a draw on the match between osasuna and FC Barcelona. Most people would see it as an unwise decision but that's soccer the foolish thing can turn out to be wise.

How many times have you gone against the crowd and smiled to the bank

People generally go with the majority as it involves less risk and also less reward. But if you know your game right, you can go against the majority. especially in sports like soccer. I remember placing my bet on NewCastle once, as they were underdogs and won 10/1. You should be sure about your strategy , should know the game you are betting on and also some luck to win against the majority

The important thing is that people should be knowing exactly what they are betting on as this will help them to take their own decision rather than just following the majority where they could be wrong at times as well.

In random games, it does not really matter what a gambler is playing or who experienced he is, because the outcomes are always random. No one can really guess it and the crowd just tries to have fun. They are not aware of the results but simple shouting the guesses gives energy to the environment. Some players pay attention to their words, others don't. It is up to them totally.

Random games doesnt really need that crucial thinking and experience and as you said outcomes are always random.Going back into the topic,
betting against favorite do still happens on my side where there are lines or bets which you do consider on choosing up the underdog than on the
heavily favorite but these are only on some situation depending on how a gambler would see or analyze its bets.

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Quote from: senne on November 02, 2019, 12:36:40 PM

Quote from: Sharon121212 on September 07, 2019, 12:21:50 AM

Sport betting is strange when it wants to be, it never a sure fact the impossibility can turn possible.
When booking a bet many bets on what the majority had placed before hand.
What am I saying betting site releases games for betting and gives an option where you see what others has selected and very often it's the one with the lower odd that people place bet on.

Last week Saturday was a Turing point for me as I refused to bet with majority(31-8-2019) and placed a draw on the match between osasuna and FC Barcelona. Most people would see it as an unwise decision but that's soccer the foolish thing can turn out to be wise.

How many times have you gone against the crowd and smiled to the bank

People generally go with the majority as it involves less risk and also less reward. But if you know your game right, you can go against the majority. especially in sports like soccer. I remember placing my bet on NewCastle once, as they were underdogs and won 10/1. You should be sure about your strategy , should know the game you are betting on and also some luck to win against the majority

The important thing is that people should be knowing exactly what they are betting on as this will help them to take their own decision rather than just following the majority where they could be wrong at times as well.

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Usually I use the concept of value when betting. I look at the odds and decide if the odds provide enough return compared to probability of event. So if odds are to low, I don't place a bet even if the event/outcome is likely. On the other hand, if I see value in a bet (odds higher than I expected) I stake small amount even if I think probability of winning is less than 50%.
I noticed that people usually bet on favourites even if bookmakers set the odds very low so yes, sometimes I do bet against majority.

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Quote from: Sharon121212 on September 07, 2019, 12:21:50 AM

Sport betting is strange when it wants to be, it never a sure fact the impossibility can turn possible.
When booking a bet many bets on what the majority had placed before hand.
What am I saying betting site releases games for betting and gives an option where you see what others has selected and very often it's the one with the lower odd that people place bet on.

Last week Saturday was a Turing point for me as I refused to bet with majority(31-8-2019) and placed a draw on the match between osasuna and FC Barcelona. Most people would see it as an unwise decision but that's soccer the foolish thing can turn out to be wise.

How many times have you gone against the crowd and smiled to the bank

People generally go with the majority as it involves less risk and also less reward. But if you know your game right, you can go against the majority. especially in sports like soccer. I remember placing my bet on NewCastle once, as they were underdogs and won 10/1. You should be sure about your strategy , should know the game you are betting on and also some luck to win against the majority

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on November 01, 2019, 06:43:54 PM

Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 01, 2019, 01:47:58 PM

If we are talking about sports betting, in order to be individual in this type of gambling, you must also be a professional and have a great deal of knowledge of a particular sport, as well as in a single professional or team. Otherwise, you have to do as most do and hope for a good result.

Agreed, knowledge about the particular game is very important. Apart from the same when one has placed a bet against the majority and experienced a win, further his mind will always look for the odds that is against the majority. When we go against the majority of there exist a situation of the game going closer it is possible to lower the loss.

For sometimes it results good but mostly it won't go that way. In most cases that majority wins as they tied together and knows much about the game. I won't go against the majority but instead relying on them as I seek assurance rather than to have our own choice.

We need to be practical this time cause not only luck giving us a way to win and survive but also we need to be smart and think wisely. This is only the way in order to become profitable in gambling and we know that. It sounds ridiculous but that is the reality here.

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Quote from: hahay on November 01, 2019, 05:31:02 PM

Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 01, 2019, 01:47:58 PM

If we are talking about sports betting, in order to be individual in this type of gambling, you must also be a professional and have a great deal of knowledge of a particular sport, as well as in a single professional or team. Otherwise, you have to do as most do and hope for a good result.

Having a lot of knowledge in sports to bet on sports is very good at that point, but when we want to fight the majority then I think the main thing in this case is about a mentality, because it is very difficult to fight the majority for a sports bet and even though you have that knowledge also still not enough, because the knowledge we have at least is only to make us more confident when choosing which team is the best, because to fight the majority at least we must have the courage to make the decision to choose an underdog team to bet on.

Now when we have knowledge, we will be more confident and when we are more confident, we will dare to make decisions. When we have good knowledge of a team, we will have the confidence to make decisions, and do not care about the majority or minority. The more confident a person is, the stronger their mentality is to fight the majority.

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Nope, it doesn't really need to take too much courage when you're about to do it. Sometimes we act something differently and doesn't go with the crowd because we want twist.

But yeah if we are confident with what we're doing, going against with everyone's bet is fine thing to try.

Twist and challenge as well mate,because I can feel that

Sometimes I am betting against the majority because I want then to feel defeated so even there’s lower chance of winning yet I risk my money

It surely feels good to win especially when you took the risk and the so called "twist". Like when you least expect it to happen, but eventually it does. You are aware of the fact that you don't have a 100% chance of winning but you still take the risk.

Yes, winning with the majority feels good but it's even better if you win against them. Grin

all it takes is confidence so that there'll be no regret whatever happens.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 01, 2019, 01:47:58 PM

If we are talking about sports betting, in order to be individual in this type of gambling, you must also be a professional and have a great deal of knowledge of a particular sport, as well as in a single professional or team. Otherwise, you have to do as most do and hope for a good result.

Agreed, knowledge about the particular game is very important. Apart from the same when one has placed a bet against the majority and experienced a win, further his mind will always look for the odds that is against the majority. When we go against the majority of there exist a situation of the game going closer it is possible to lower the loss.

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Quote from: RivAngE on November 01, 2019, 12:44:33 PM

It's cooler to be playing against the majority to be honest!
Personally, I don't like repeating what most people do, so I'm always looking for viable alternatives to what the majority is doing.

And this is called creativity of the mind because using same strategies and following the majority all the time makes everyone very bore and also your winnings after going against the majority while using self-strategies is very much good and I think those winnings are your real winning, instead of that you follow the majority and not sure about your luck.

What makes (most) people usually go along with the majority is that they are uncomfortably undecided to the extent that they'll need help instead of hanging there own. I know it wasn't strange if we are against the majority cause of some reason, we have also our own perspective and as well as market speculation. It varies definitely if we understand the situation, in fact, not just luck only gives us chances to win but also the way we look into it.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 01, 2019, 01:47:58 PM

If we are talking about sports betting, in order to be individual in this type of gambling, you must also be a professional and have a great deal of knowledge of a particular sport, as well as in a single professional or team. Otherwise, you have to do as most do and hope for a good result.

Having a lot of knowledge in sports to bet on sports is very good at that point, but when we want to fight the majority then I think the main thing in this case is about a mentality, because it is very difficult to fight the majority for a sports bet and even though you have that knowledge also still not enough, because the knowledge we have at least is only to make us more confident when choosing which team is the best, because to fight the majority at least we must have the courage to make the decision to choose an underdog team to bet on.

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If we are talking about sports betting, in order to be individual in this type of gambling, you must also be a professional and have a great deal of knowledge of a particular sport, as well as in a single professional or team. Otherwise, you have to do as most do and hope for a good result.

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It's cooler to be playing against the majority to be honest!
Personally, I don't like repeating what most people do, so I'm always looking for viable alternatives to what the majority is doing.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 30, 2019, 05:24:26 PM

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Going against the majority really needs too much courage and confidence but it is not difficult and i think everybody should do what seems right to them because sometimes it happen that majority of the people cannot figure out the situation and if you follow them and loss your bet then it always become the cause of regret, so in some cases people needs to follow their own decision as it is sometimes the demand of the situation.

Nope, it doesn't really need to take too much courage when you're about to do it. Sometimes we act something differently and doesn't go with the crowd because we want twist.

But yeah if we are confident with what we're doing, going against with everyone's bet is fine thing to try.

Last week when I started placing sports bets I wondered why people bet on weaker teams in a given game? I was thinking a long time about this, for example of this game:

Why would anyone bet on Wolverhampton Wanderers? the arsenal has a more robust team. are people who bet on the weaker teams just then counting on luck?

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