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hero member
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September 13, 2023, 05:06:50 AM
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Buying of iPhone regardless of the year of the maker, there's an important thing to consider when making a decision of such, what are we using the iPhone for, what are the major investments we already had before the thought of buying an iPhone came onboard, am sure you cannot buy bitcoin without having a device to use in handling it, but if you already have one or two devices, why the need of switching to the latest version just for fantasy, when you can actually make an investment with bitcoin with the money used, in cases like this, we can say it's misappropriation in priority investing on liabilities instead of an asset like bitcoin.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 04:51:43 AM
#12
This is an illustration of the value of hodling and the evil of inflation.
What I see here has nothing to do with inflation, the USD index is holding tight as well. This is a product that the developer sets a price for just like any other new and upgraded product. The manufacturer can set any price that comes to their head for their valuable products.

It's perfect to have ended it at "the value of HODLing of Bitcoin," which is what causes the BTC's huge appreciation against the iPhones' price, not inflation.

Admittedly, it's largely because the value of bitcoin has increased so rapidly that it makes a difference when compared in this way, but if you think it's unrelated to inflation you're not entirely right. The value of the USD is not held tightly, it also loses value over time and the reason is that inflation is also eroding the value of the USD. If you compare the value of your country's currency with USD, you will see that USD is holding its value very well, but if you look at the value of gold and USD. You will see that it is not gold that is increasing in price, but USD that is losing value. This is similar when comparing USD to bitcoin because USD is printed daily while bitcoin's supply is finite.

Looking at this chart you will see how the value of the USD is depreciating year by year. Bitcoin is the solution.


I can now see where the error is coming from with your explanation and the image attached therein. The truth is that people who are not truly trading, investing or practical with economics and data often mistake what they read from the media. I'm exempt since I've been fully involved in such for almost 20 years now. Besides, the only metric to know the true value of the USD is the "USD index," nothing else, and you can quote me to a real economist on this. It has its own chart that reads the falling and the rising moments. You can get it online and study it yourself about how the power/strength of the USD has been playing out over the years.

Do you know how you are making the mistake? Inflation is internal while the assets you cited are global. You are disregarding the fact that global commodities like gold and crude oil are being priced and influenced by many factors. This is why crude oil, for example, at times could be priced as low as $10 per barrel when there is nothing happening to the status of the USD at all (no inflation/deflation), and at times, the same crude oil could be priced at over $100 per barrel, also without anything happening to the purchasing power of the USD. By this, you are mistaking purchasing power for the dynamics of these assets in that they could have their bearish and bullish moments even when the USD is stable. Take gold for another example, it is an asset, an asset that appreciated in value significantly over the past years. You don't expect the same amount in USD that bought it years back to buy it today when the asset has appreciated. That is why they are investments, people make money from their appreciation, and the purchasing power of the USD is almost totally irrelevant here. The USD is a currency, whether it remains the same, decreases or rises, assets will surpass it as far as they do well. This is also the reason you can't price the same US stocks that have appreciated over the years with the same amount of dollars you bought it 20 years ago. The value has risen, but it doesn't mean the USD fell. That's the reason I said it's the value and not inflation.

In other words, it's not the purchasing power of the USD that reduced but it's the said asset that appreciated significantly in value. The USD can't be appreciating that much as a currency, otherwise, it's a big problem for the USA's trade balance.
copper member
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September 13, 2023, 04:35:43 AM
#11
iPhone 5 – 53 BTC
iPhone 5s – 5 BTC

Are you sure this isn't a typo? 10x less BTC needs to be paid to buy an iPhone 5s as compared to the iPhone? No shot.

Soon there will be a day when you will have to pay just 0.0047 BTC to get an iPhone, when Bitcoin will be near $170k. Maybe that will be iPhone 17.
donator
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September 13, 2023, 04:27:21 AM
#10
It is a little bit crazy to think that you can get a new iPhone now for such a small amount of BTC. Surely Bitcoiners won’t be spending their BTC on this, but it’s nice to see how extreme the appreciation of BTC has been over the years. Comparing it to iPhones is a decent way to show the increase in valuation over time.
sr. member
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September 13, 2023, 03:53:22 AM
#9
This is really catchy I must say, having something like 0.031btc and you say I should use it to get an iphone 15? Like why the hell am I going to use such huge amount (I know to some it ain't that huge) to get a device?
Well I think is for those who have enough to spare because I don't think someone who's struggling would think of getting an Iphone 15 for 0.031.
I can only think of that if the iphone can get my BTC wallet to at least 2BTC, that alone would but a smile on my face.
With the market not in the favor or any investors I don't think anyone would consider getting such a device with that amount.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 03:27:41 AM
#8
This is an illustration of the value of hodling and the evil of inflation.
What I see here has nothing to do with inflation, the USD index is holding tight as well. This is a product that the developer sets a price for just like any other new and upgraded product. The manufacturer can set any price that comes to their head for their valuable products.

It's perfect to have ended it at "the value of HODLing of Bitcoin," which is what causes the BTC's huge appreciation against the iPhones' price, not inflation.

Admittedly, it's largely because the value of bitcoin has increased so rapidly that it makes a difference when compared in this way, but if you think it's unrelated to inflation you're not entirely right. The value of the USD is not held tightly, it also loses value over time and the reason is that inflation is also eroding the value of the USD. If you compare the value of your country's currency with USD, you will see that USD is holding its value very well, but if you look at the value of gold and USD. You will see that it is not gold that is increasing in price, but USD that is losing value. This is similar when comparing USD to bitcoin because USD is printed daily while bitcoin's supply is finite.

Looking at this chart you will see how the value of the USD is depreciating year by year. Bitcoin is the solution.

hero member
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- Jay -
September 13, 2023, 03:13:55 AM
#7
This is the reason why most people are hoarding their coins and using it as an investment option and not as a Currency. Would you spend your bitcoins buying an expensive phone...and after a few years, finding out that it would have been worth 800 times more.. than what it was ..when you bought the phone?
If I really needed the phone and liquidating some bitcoins was the only option to get it at the time, I will not regret it at all; hopefully I still have some in my portfolio and I manage to buy some more later when I got more cash flow.
Bitcoin is primarily used as an investment, but it is okay to also use it as a currency as a daily habit where it is accepted.

- Jay -
sr. member
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September 13, 2023, 03:05:41 AM
#6
Some people joke that they would have to sell two kidneys to buy the iPhone 15. But you mention something different here. You have discussed here how much btc to buy iphone 15. iPhone 15 pricing may vary by location. iPhone series phones are very expensive when they are first in the market, but after a few days of the same model in the market, its price comes down a lot. If you want to buy the iPhone 15 at the beginning, you will have to spend a lot more money to buy the iPhone 15, but if you want to buy the iPhone 15 a few months after the release of the iPhone 15, you can buy it for a lot less than the initial release price. I'm not telling you how much btc it might cost to buy an iphone fifteen because the price of btc fluctuates from time to time so the current estimate will not match the estimate at the time you buy it.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 02:52:26 AM
#5
@bluebit25

There is a thread before yours with an ongoing discussion about this same topic: Ignore the new Apple toys & Invest in Bitcoin, history always repeat itself.

The best is to lock this thread.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 12:41:11 AM
#4
This is an illustration of the value of hodling and the evil of inflation.
What I see here has nothing to do with inflation, the USD index is holding tight as well. This is a product that the developer sets a price for just like any other new and upgraded product. The manufacturer can set any price that comes to their head for their valuable products.

It's perfect to have ended it at "the value of HODLing of Bitcoin," which is what causes the BTC's huge appreciation against the iPhones' price, not inflation.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 12:34:19 AM
#3
The bigger question are.....

How does the person with the iPhone 4s feel now.... after they bought it for 162 BTC? Those bitcoins are now valued at $4 192 000 at todays price of $25 870 per bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

This is the reason why most people are hoarding their coins and using it as an investment option and not as a Currency. Would you spend your bitcoins buying an expensive phone...and after a few years, finding out that it would have been worth 800 times more.. than what it was ..when you bought the phone?  Huh Huh Tongue
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 12:14:52 AM
#2
This is an illustration of the value of hodling and the evil of inflation.

We all know how Bitcoin's price has grown more than 2 billion percent over the years. 1BTC used to be just $0.001. Now it's $26,000. Between $0.001 and $26,000, many supporters and believers sold their coins thinking they have already made money out of it. Little did they know that the price would continue to rise.

The primary reason is that Bitcoin is inflation-proof. With Bitcoin, nobody has the power of the printer. No one can indiscriminately inflate its supply. No president or central bank governor has the power to devalue the currency such that in the Bitcoin standard prices are falling rather than rising.
sr. member
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September 12, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
#1
Recently, Apple officially launched iPhone 15 with many improvements and new features.



At Apple's event, the company introduced new products along the iPhone 15 line. The selling price of the iPhone 15 in the US remains the same at $799.

So how much Bitcoin do you need to buy a new iPhone, depending on the year?
Below is the amount of BTC needed to be spent during that period to buy each new iPhone model on launch day:

  • iPhone 4s – 162 BTC
  • iPhone 5 – 53 BTC
  • iPhone 5s – 5 BTC
  • iPhone 6 – 1.7 BTC
  • iPhone 6s – 2.8 BTC
  • iPhone 7 – 1.1 BTC
  • iPhone 8 – 0.19 BTC
  • iPhone X – 0.14 BTC
  • iPhone XS – 0.15 BTC
  • iPhone 11 – 0.068 BTC
  • iPhone 12 – 0.051 BTC
  • iPhone 13 – 0.018 BTC
  • iPhone 14 – 0.042 BTC
  • iPhone 15 – 0.031 BTC
  • ...

While the larger version iPhone 15 Plus starts at $899. iPhone 15 Pro will be priced at $999, while the larger version iPhone 15 Pro Max will be priced at $1199, iPhone models will be available for pre-sale on sep 15.


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