Topic: How much do signature campaigns work? (Read 685 times)

I understand you very well, but I insist that it has happened here in the forum that a campaign ran for a long time without a manager. Let me try to explain. When I joined this forum newly, I discovered that 1xbit was among the high paying campaigns then apart from chipmixer which was exceptional, followed by Bestchange which was paying $100 per week. 1x launched a campaign that was paying legendary as high as $150 and members were recieving upto $30 or $20. They had a manager with the username "1xbit manager", ofcourse a new account. But it didn't take long that they started running into troubles, the manager was multi tagged as well as the participants.

In order to keep going they launched another campaign. That is having two campaigns simultaneously. This went on untill their spreadsheet was no longer visible and no one was coming out public to announce as the manager. This was exactly when no one was playing the role of a manager. They no longer check quality of post, they no longer check how many days it took to complete the post, just that someone was sending payment weekly. Someone sending out payment doesn't really mean they are managing the campaign. Besides, some managers do not make payment but the team does. It will be right to say that at a time, 1xbit had no manager.

The issue with 1xbit is complex and they brought it upon themselves. Had it been they were wise and handled the situation well, especially those who are complaining here, it wouldn't have been so terrible for them. It only got to the stage that people were no more patient but tagging any campaigner for the casino. But it is not that those who were campaigning for them were bad. Many of those guys are just victims of it and we've discouraged these items without a number. Some are indeed good posters and not shitposters, but due to the impatience of those who tagged them, by not even giving them a direct fair warning, they often tagged them. They are actually not lesser than all other posters here.

It only got worse during the time they wanted to move out of the forum as they were desperate to accept all accounts including those hopeless and redundant ones.

Also, @KingsDen, there was a manager behind it, but not the regular name here. However, when it got to their last times here, I think they were communicating off the forum since no official communication but many were joining. They can't join without a directive, otherwise, they will not be paid. I wonder if they even paid the last weeks before they disappeared.

Problem with 1xbit signature campaign participants was more about promoting scammy gambling sites than anything else. I mean sure, they were shitposters but not any worse that you can find in some of the other currently running campaigns.


Have you seen the shitposts made by some members of Stake campaign that are obviously counted and paid for?

How is it that there is a signature campaign running and there is nobody managing it? Is that even possible. How are the participants vetted and chosen? How are their posts regularly checked and counted? How do the participants get paid? How are they assessed whether they're still worth keeping for the week that follows? Certainly, it's not being run by a bot or an AI.

All this means there must be somebody out there managing the campaign. Whether that is hired from the forum or somebody belonging to the team itself or a staff who is also doing other tasks for the company, the point is somebody is a manager for their marketing here.

Even to a shady company as 1xbit, I guess they didn't just accept all applicants on a first come, first served basis and pay them weekly without even counting their posts or checking whether they're posting or not. There's always somebody managing the promotion.

They had manager or possibly managers because new accounts were created with the alias "1xbit management, manager 1xbit" etc. But those accounts were multi tagged and their reputation ruined. At a time, there was no known manager or better to say they had a faceless manager. Whether there was a manager behind the scene or not, the campaign didn't go like something that was managed. The campaign participants were the worse spammers. There's no manager that could tolerate what happened in 1xbit campaign, that's why I concluded the were without managers.

Ok, I am just learning that they didn't escrow their funds. I understood how risky it was for the community to believe such a project. But it is nice to see how everything has fallen in place.

I think companies might have time to manage signature campaigns because they hire people who represent them on this forum, take care of ANN thread and answer questions and solve accusations. They hire signature campaign managers because hiring a trusted manager positively affects your company and people are more likely to join a campaign managed by a trusted manager who has been doing this job honestly for years.

How do you know that 1xbit didn't have manager running things from behind, counting posts etc?


True, BestChange had a lot of issues in the beginning because they didn't hire external manager and didn't escrow the funds for the beginning but eventually everything sorted.

Bestchange campaign is managed internally by Best_change and not a bitcoin manager. The management of the campaign has done well over the years. It is not only Bestchange that is in that category, casino campaign called stake seems to have same arrangement where they have internal managers and they have been successful. But then, you don't seem to understand me well. I was just generalizing about having a running campaign without a manager be it internally or externally. Just like what 1xbit did some time ago.

However, coming from the context you brought us to. Any project who did not use bitcointalk managers and also do not have a reputable account here prior to launching a campaign here does not always have a good start. Bestchange had similar issues, although I wasn't in the forum then but the first pages of their thread reveals so.

I have to tell you one thing, competition to get into signature campaigns are tough. The requirements to apply for consideration are getting more difficult by the day, which is good for the forum, because it reduces shit posting.

Take your time, before you apply for these campaigns. Do proper research and post quality information. (A lot of people try to "cheat" the system, but the competition quickly expose them, because they want their spot in the campaigns)

Good luck and focus more on adding value to the forum, the rest will fall into place over time.  

I like to think that they don't know that their brands are pasted on the signatures of every forum member here and that they're entirely trusting the work of the campaign manager to monitor the participants in the campaign and that they're not just posting and then lying about wearing it and the campaign managers can see when someone removes their signature if I recall, your past campaigns with your signature and avatar stays even if you aren't already in that campaign so there's really no way that you can cheat the campaign and be able to join two at the same time, and it's also not really worth it to do that for the participants, it will only make their life more complicated since they're going to build up on these lies and will definitely backfire when the time comes, it's much easier for them to just slap it on their signature and avatar and let it stay there then they start posting.

The way I see it, It is typical of how a job works. You have the Board of Directors, the CEO, the Managers(usually contracted), and the employees. Now just as in the real work place. If the company has a new product that they need to market and want visibility, they go to the place where their potential customers go. The manager put up an advert for a paid gig and carefully selects those who meet certain criteria. Prior to this time pay and other details would already have been discussed and agreed up. Some times, you may find that the managers would first put up a notice for avatar design or signature design. To get a good idea of how it works read threads here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5406507 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

As far as I know (someone please correct me if I am wrong), the signature campaign you are currently part of is managed internally by BestChange and not by the external manager and they are doing it quite successfully for years so your statement is not true.

With that being said, I do think that it makes more sense to hire more experienced person who knows this forum well, like some of our reputed managers instead trying to do it by yourself.

I don't see how signatures, signature campaigns, and merits are keeping you from posting or discussing Bitcoin in any way you want. You are free to browse and post in any area of the forum. You can post, create your own threads, and even diss or attack other members or staff, and no one is going to silence you for it. You can even self-moderate your threads and have control over who can write in them and who can't. You can create local rules preventing certain users to comment in your threads if that's what you want. Can your trust ratings be impacted by such actions? Yes, they can. But why would you care unless you want to join a signature campaign yourself?!

If you don't like seeing someone's posts, ignore them. There is literally a button for it to make the ignoring even more serious. 
Are posts breaking any rules? Report them, and if you are right, the staff will delete them regardless of who wrote it.

They also have their own technical support system and developers analyst that monitors the results from each participants or everyone in general, it will all be obvious also from how they gain traffic on their website unlike before.


The pay rate is on their thread under the rules.


Read the companions threads to see their requirements and eligibility, if you're fine and ok with their terms and conditions, you can choose to apply to get selected, everything needed for participating in the campaign will be found on their signature campaigns thread.

The duties of campaign managers are bold and cannot be overlooked. If anyone could start a signature campaign in this forum without a campaign manager, it is likened to running a company without a manager. The manager's role is too important to be overlooked. If no one manages the campaigns, the campaign will not be effective and the project owners will end up wasting money in the name of advertisement without results. Imagine that there was when a particular signature participant was promoting to different signature campaigns and getting paid by both even when the campaigns were managed by reputable managers. What he does is to wear one signature and avatar when that campaign is about to pay her participants. After the payment, he will remove it and wear the signature of the other campaign and also receive payment from the other campaign. He did that for several weeks before being bursted.

Just imagine that if someone can play such smartness even when the campaign is being managed by strong hands, what happens when no one is managing the campaign. People will just not wear signatures at all and also receive payments.
As of OP asking, everything can be figured out by you if you stay here a little longer and if you keep reading and not asking only.

You just have to check one signature campaign to see and understand how it works everything are written in the signature campaign like the purpose of the campaign, what they are promoting and who are qualified to promote and what are the requirements to get included in the campaign
When the signature is visible in the participant's profile and shows up in all his posts, there is a spreadsheet and the spreadsheet shows if you reached the requirement and your payout status everything depends on the rules set up by the signature campaign manager, if you're a good poster and rank up and decided to join one campaign you will understand all these things right now focus more on your contribution here on Bitcointalk.

Companies don’t know how much you have posted them , I think the idea of most companies hiring mangers to work for them is to monitor every post relating to what the company is advertising.

Mangers here play a pivotal role because they are the middle men between the advertising company and the employees ( people hired to work for the company ). And the following are some of the roles that the managers play the advertising company:
1. Managers announce when the can is open
2. They monitor the quality of your posts.
3. They make sure you obey the terms and conditions as stipulated by the company
4. They also ensure that you meet the number of post that you are supposed to post per week
5.The pay salary to workers every week .
Hence, managers stand in place of the company for the campaigns.

OP already has 64 merits he only lacks 6 more activities to become a member rank and from here he can participate in signature campaigns but HE can only participate in altcoin campaigns because the majority of campaigns in the service section only accept full members.
Checking his post history he has a good chance to be part of a signature campaign the incentives will motivate OP to post quality posts because his knowledgeable on some niche.
You have an edge here if you know one niche and that niche is part of the discussions here on Bitcointalk, but if you're on a signature campaign you are bound by rules and terms of the campaigns, so its your choice if you want to be part of signature campaigns.

You are missing some facts here. I believe that the companies that are paying us here to campaign for them would be concerned about what their money is being used for and the result of the same, however, each campaign manager is the one who could say outrightly what is happening behind the scene even as some are obvious to us.

Although some companies might not be concerned about the entire process as you said, but for the traffic, I am 100% sure that they are concerned about it and there will always be a system that the campaign managers and the company itself will follow in such a way that they can use a certain metric to know whether it is worth it continue to campaign with Bitcointalk or not. They can't just limit everything to the campaign manager, that is why they have their unique code that sends traffic to their site, and that traffic would have our "code" that we are the ones sending the traffic to the site which the company will verify themselves to be encouraged or discouraged based on the result.

They could entirely leave the number of posts per week, the amount to be paid weekly and per rank and others to the campaign managers, but not the traffic that can justify the money they are spending on the campaign. It gets more with some campaigns to the extent that a unique traffic code would be assigned to the individual participants. This style is applicable to some campaign managers who even have different active campaign styles as well. This could only mean that such companies are more particular about the traffic we send to their website than others.

Hey nice answer!!! Oh wait, it's the same answer already given by multiple other members. Sorry had to give you some shit but the thread is only 2 pages long, you should read other replies before replying, thanks.

For that they hire a Signature campaign manager. Compaign manager is a person who have expereince of  managing signature campaign. it is manager's job to make sure the participants are wearing right signatures and making high quality posts in right sections so the project being promoted in their signatures gets the exposure they want.

Every campaign has different pay rates and models. some pay per post basis and some pay fixed weekly rates. to know that you should check each signatures payment structure.
You can See all Signature campaigns with every details here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-ad-campaigns-last-update-01-jan-23-615953

The signature campaign works pretty simply: you advertise something through your signature space, and they are paying you rewards for that. When a signature campaign launches, they add how much reward will be distributed per rank, per post, or per week. All the terms of the campaign should be attached to the campaign post. You are applying there, which means you accept their terms. So the company or the campaign managers pick participants as per their standards. That's actually how signature campaigns work.

The companies do not have time to keep track of these things and they will hire Signature managers who will be responsible for ensuring that the participants are wearing the required signatures, doing the required amount of posts and are being paid for the constructive posts by the end of the week.

It depends upon the campaign if they are counting each post (no minimum) and pay for the posts or they have a minimum amount of posts that everyone needs to complete to be get paid. And yes, each rank gets a different pay rate. You can check the services section and read the rules for each campaign and many of your doubts will clear and you will have a much better understanding of signature campaigns.

I will try to give answers to each query in the respective sequence in which you have asked them. These companies don't check that you have pasted their website links in your signature they have hired professional people who do that work for them and it is the headache of these professional people who have to give them results, and they don't pay us directly in most cases they did but they hired a professional person to check our posts, links, quality and to pay us after week. That person is known as the campaign manager,

They pay us a fixed amount per post per week, the payment is different for different ranks and on different signature campaigns, and ranks or merits are indirectly the same thing, which means the more merits and activity you will have the higher your rank will be and most of the campaign only accepts member who is senior and to gain senior rank you have to get 250 merits and activity of 240.
If you want to know what rates does these signature campaigns give to there which rank then you should check this topic and the post I am mentioning will be of help to you.

• https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63299594

Check out the Signature announcement thread I'm participated in,

Stake.com NEW SIGN CAMPAIGN l UP TO $160/WEEK l 15 HERO & LEG SPOTS OPEN

Everything you want to know about a signature campaign is here, The rank of the members that can be accepted the rules of the campaign how many minimum posts to create in a week, the payment structure, and how to receive your payout.

It is an incentive for forum members when they display the banner beneath their profile of the platform they are promoting, you can post the signature code on your profile page to fully understand it you need to join one signature campaign since you have a good number of merits you only need to increase your activity to reach a member rank and apply for signature that accept members rank.
Once you receive your first payout from the signature campaign you will be motivated to increase your activity and contribution here on Bitcointalk.

This is why most of the organizations making promotion of their services make use of a campaign manager, this ensure that everything gets in order between the campaign organization and the participants, he lias discussion with the organization and established campaign rules and payrates, every other things follow along with how you're able to agree on certain conditions with your campaign manager then he relate everything to the participants.


I employ you go to the service board to see for yourself some typical examples of running campaigns, their rules and payrates, this will help you understand more better in this regard.

Are you intrigued or are you interested just because you have 25 merits now you just need to increase your activity to 60 and you will be a member rank which will make you eligible to participate in a signature campaign that accepts member rank, you are lucky to have that 25 merits in just a short period and if you discover signature as a good incentive it will motivate you to contribute more, so keep it up.

Companies don't need to know that you have pasted their code in your signature space because they hire campaign managers from this forum who look after the members who apply the signature code on their profiles. It's basically the campaign manager that looks after the participants who are into a campaign and the company pays manger for that hard work.

In most campaigns the amount it fixed per post but not all of the posts will get paid. Someone campaigns pay 20 posts of a users while others pay 50-60 posts that a member makes. The paid posts should be constructive and should contain valuable information.

The rank is an important thing in a campaign the higher the rank the better the payment. In some campaigns merits also play a big role, in a few campaigns the members with 3k or 4k merits get higher pay as compare to other Legendary rank members. They get that pay because they are the most active and contributive members of the forum.

This happens to be the most interesting question and xLays has answered it that the companies hire a campaign manager whose duty among others is to ensure that everyone is wearing signature throughout the campaign period.


I thought you will go deeper by asking how the project owners actually know that the signature campaign is helping to give their project a good exposure. I am convinced that the signature campaign works for the projects and that is why they keep using it as a means of promotion. But what I don't know is how mere wearing signatures to make posts help the brand outside the forum.

Some of the company hires a manager who checks whether their signature campaign participants are actually using it.

It can be both, depending on the signature campaign agreement.

Earnings depend on the agreement. Some get paid in cryptocurrency, others don't. Look into specific signature campaign or bounties for details on what they offer.

The kudos go to the admin and the management of the forum, it's one of a kind. I guess you want to replicate it on your site as well, it's a free world...lol. Anyway, it happened here first and that can't ever be removed.

Perhaps you are such that want to bring your project down here for us to advertise for you, you are also warmly welcome.

It's simple, as you see the signatures embedded beneath every post, if you put a cursor on them, you will realize that they are clickable, not for viewing alone. You can click it and it will redirect you to the website of the sponsor. By this, they get to keep track of the traffic we send to them and also know the converting ones.

The above style is general which most campaigns use, but it could also be more than that where each participant has a unique link that can be tracked to them.
 

This question tends to be about "how much work" which in my perspective is about fair pay for participants, the answer varies depending on where you live.
If you mean effective for brands, you should at least join one of these discussions:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/signature-campaigns-and-some-discussion-about-seo-5248756
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/signature-campaign-vs-review-campaign-5470716

They must have budgets when starting their business that can be big or small.

To run a business, they need to do marketing and signature campaign is one of marketing types that can be run by a Bitcoin, cryptocurrency platform. It can be a waste of money if it brings no or low effects to the company. It is helpful if they see good effects from the campaign.

If you see a campaign starts and stops shortly, it means the company sees it not right financially for to do this more.
Oppositely, if a campaign is run very long, it means something actually are good for the company and they decide to run it in a long time. No deep budget can serve it if no good effects in return.

Signature campaign: The lowest and highest payment BTC and USD in 2013-2022

Signature campaigns are run by campaign managers. CM checks all the posts ensuring that a participant wore the signature, avatar, personal text and whether filled the weekly quota or not. And as for pay rate, it totally depends on your rank or how reputed you are around the forum. Normally the pay rate starts from 1$ to 6$, as far as I have seen. You can earn up to 150-200$ a week. Those who are very reputed in this forum can make custom deals for renting their signature space. As I am a full member, I earned around 20$ a week after joining a mixer campaign. Later I moved to another mixer champaign where I earned 35$ a week. It also depends on max post per weeks. Some allows 20 some 30 and some 40 posts per week. Apart from mixers, gambling campaigns pays more if we compare the numbers.

Bitcointalk was the only forum that allowed signature campaigns. After that other cryptocurrency forums did follow the same concept but we're not that successful. Each camping is run by a campaign manager.

The campaign manager is responsible to check the post and ensures the rules of the campaign are being followed. Anyone found not following the rules will be removed from the campaign.

The amount of weekly pay depends on the rank of any member. The higher the rank the better will be the pay for that member. As your rank is still a newbie you won't qualify to participate in a signature campaign as of now. When you reach Member ranks then you can apply for signature campaign that are on boarding Member and above ranks.

Signature campaigns is not free internet money. You’re advertising for the company by wearing their signature or avatar. Companies who run campaigns on bitcointalk do so with the intent to promote their brand/service and they know they will the value for their money. Each campaign has its own rules to ensure the company is well represented and they get the results they want from the campaign.

Only member rank upwards can wear signature and yes the higher you rank and style of posting the more attractive your account becomes to campaign managers. To better understand, here are some threads you should read;
Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 10-Dec-23]
Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)

First, it's not html that is entered on signature space, but in bbcode format.
Second, all these questions depends on the projects budget and manager the project is dealing with. Because at the very least you can run a campaign with a budget of $400 ^{(or even lower)} with limited numbers of  participants and ranks available.

Please don't mistake a side bonus as an income from a job here, this forum is not a place for people to find an online job, the idea was initially to have a bonus on the side of posting to discuss Bitcoin and at the same time get some Bitcoin, unfortunately people exploited  this opportunity and destroyed the joyful place this forum once was. We are stuck in a loop of "signature/merit", not even our enemies could plan to disrupt our progress this nicely. we did it ourselves.

I think there is no fix amount to what member are paid, I think that jurisdiction is base on how the company and the campaign manager decide to work it out as I believe some company pay their for advertising their work than others and I think the campaign manager also has a way to influence the payment rate for each rank depending on the ones he is working with.

Aslo some company start with a low budget for marketing their pay while later is the case for other. Well for how they track campaigner wearing their signature code to earn payment, I think the manager has the responsibility to do that as he can also work with special people to keep track of these that's if he really wants to be district.

Companies hire signature campaign managers, [Overview] Bitcointalk Services from Bitcointalk Members.
Or Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers.

You can find signature campaigns in this board:Services.

You can read everything here: Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)


You can find it here: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 10-Dec-23]

Here is a link to an overview of the signature campaigns in the forum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-ad-campaigns-last-update-01-jan-23-615953

From there you will know how much are the participants being paid, how you can calculate the average for each rank, and other requirements.

For your first question, the campaign manager checks it and then pays them accordingly.

The manager, who helps them launch the signature campaign, also helps them track who has their code on their profile, and the owners of the project can also track where the traffic to their site is coming from. In my opinion, it's very simple for them to know.
 
On the aspect of payment, most managers pay per post, which is counted at the end of every week, and everything will sum up to the required maximum number of posts, which is being ranked by member rank, as all ranks are not being paid equally.
 
Some managers pay a fixed amount for each week and require you to do a particular number of posts before the week runs out, with a daily maximum, and if you meet the requirement, you will be paid a certain amount based on your rank at the end of the week.

I'm intrigued by how these signature campaigns work.

How do these companies know you pasted their html in your signature and that they should pay you? Do they pay a fixed amount per post or a fixed amount per week? How much do they pay on average for each rank? Or is it not the rank but the merit which determines your income?

Cheers!