Signature campaigns and some discussion about seo

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 22, 2020, 06:35:36 PM

With May 2020 Google update Backlink is no more important for ranking on Google search. Hence you can skip the SEO part. Those who depend on Google for traffic might have experienced a severe decline in traffic after this update.

Until now, backlinks still play a significant role in improving a website's position. Content is king, and backlinks are queen ... that's how bloggers often refer to them, even though algorithms have been updated extensively.

As long as SEO relies on various factors to strengthen a website on Google's search engine, any type of online promotion certainly affects the SEO of a website or page. Sigcamp helps categorize a query to be found only in the cryptocurrency niche when used as a signature on this forum because the forum specifically focuses on cryptocurrency.

Direct links to website pages can boost a website's Domain Authority (DA). The higher a website's DA, the easier it is for Google to scrape information from that website. This can potentially give the website an edge over others for specific keywords.

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I the past i often say: Seo is hard work

Good traffic from strong pages is a good basis. If you have a local address, than updating the Google my Business account (if you have one) with reviews and replies to them. These answers must be written with keywords. For a restaurant in summer with a reference to eating ice cream, or in winter with a good meal at Christmas (just two examples). Of course, this is not possible for a forum.

In Germany, cookie notification has made it more difficult to check the traffic. If a provider at google in the first 3 positions in the Maps-Box (based on the keywords), then you notice it immediately. Sometimes become more difficult to sell traffic, I am not a seo pro, I only sell millions of page impressions / or thousands of visitors every day.

So good traffic "Do-Follow" has a positive effect on a ranking on google. The core updates are becoming more frequent and I currently think there are differences between the desktop and mobile versions.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 17, 2023, 02:25:53 AM

Bitcointalk signatures are nofollow, which means they are useless for SEO

Only do-follow links help with SEO because they tell the search engine to process the website being referred to in the link, which can boost SEO. However, sig campaigns, and by extension all Bitcointalk signatures, do not benefit from this, because do-follow is turned off by the administrator/forum software to prevent spam from being promoted via Bitcointalk.

That's not entirely true with due respect NotATether, signatures do have ranking factor.

Ok first of all if you inspect the signature links you will find it is rel="ugc" UGC, not nofollow. UGC is bit different than nofollow

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The UGC link attribute (rel=“UGC”) is an attribute that signals to Google that the link is placed in user-generated content. This attribute was introduced in 2019 when Google changed how the “nofollow” attribute works.

The UGC attribute doesn’t have a significant impact on a website’s SEO rank. But, it is recommended to use this attribute on any links in the content written by your website visitors. This can include comments, reviews, and other types of user-submitted content.

adding the UGC attribute is a good practice to ensure your site doesn’t get penalized for having unnatural external links. This is because comment links are usually spammy links associated with black hat SEO.

This applies to "links" only in the signature which is to avoid main site "bitcointalk.org" to avoid getting penalized for any spammy links.

However other content in the signature which includes Project Names, Website Title or any other links twitter, telegram etc must have ranking ranking factor in SEO.

In short ugc, user-generated content is a confirmed a ranking factor and google can't differentiate between content of the website and content of the users in this case signature.

Yes the links in the signature will tell a Search Engine that this specific link is "user generated", so don't blame me (bitcointalk) for any spam in this link

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Quote from: ServerWhere on May 20, 2020, 07:16:27 AM

I find it wrong to participate to forums discussions for the purpose to have a signature displayed and to get some SEO benefits.

That is just it, you make a good and perfect point in this, what if there's no signature campaign available anymore, how will such user find this place as interesting as before, will they stop to give the best quality informations and post required or not, if someone has the intention of coming because of signature campaign, then he may just have missed it all, because what he will be after is the money and not the community progress and growth, a large number of them could be found in bounties.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 17, 2023, 02:25:53 AM

Bitcointalk signatures are nofollow, which means they are useless for SEO

Only do-follow links help with SEO because they tell the search engine to process the website being referred to in the link, which can boost SEO. However, sig campaigns, and by extension all Bitcointalk signatures, do not benefit from this, because do-follow is turned off by the administrator/forum software to prevent spam from being promoted via Bitcointalk.

Post covid I put the link of one of my old website again in my signature and some days later ahrefs score of my website went up. It wasn't life-changing but the difference between old and new score was significant. There are some threads that have very high rank because they are included on some very famous websites and I have posted in such threads. Btw I remember that those links were dofollow from bitcointalk. Idk if theymos changed that recently.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 17, 2023, 02:25:53 AM

Bitcointalk signatures are nofollow, which means they are useless for SEO

Only do-follow links help with SEO because they tell the search engine to process the website being referred to in the link, which can boost SEO. However, sig campaigns, and by extension all Bitcointalk signatures, do not benefit from this, because do-follow is turned off by the administrator/forum software to prevent spam from being promoted via Bitcointalk.

I did quick check and it seems now Bitcointalk use rel="ugc" which also won't help SEO[1]. I never see this fact mentioned anywhere else, so does anyone know it always has been that way or changed some ago? But if that's true, it's weird SEO spam is still common occurrence on this forum where i report such post at least 2 times in a week.

[1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/qualify-outbound-links

This used to be the case where rel NOFOLLOW means a site is not giving a vote to a site when its posted on their homepage and will not be used to rank a website but Google made a major change now it treats NOFOLLOW as a hint to crawl or index a website these changes take effect on March 1, 2020

So yes it will help the site on its campaign because NOFOLLOW changes from no vote to hint and this is the reason why we see a lot of Spam SEO campaign

https://moz.com/blog/nofollow-sponsored-ugc

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Bitcointalk signatures are nofollow, which means they are useless for SEO

Only do-follow links help with SEO because they tell the search engine to process the website being referred to in the link, which can boost SEO. However, sig campaigns, and by extension all Bitcointalk signatures, do not benefit from this, because do-follow is turned off by the administrator/forum software to prevent spam from being promoted via Bitcointalk.

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The discussion will be cache by the search engine it's not more on the search engine but more on the reference on the reputation of the casino, the search engine can only index the signature thread and of course the main thread, but it's better to have a signature thread indexed by the search engine than a scam accusation thread indexed by Google.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 02, 2021, 07:17:35 PM

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Is it even worth it now? Should I pay someone for this?

If it wouldn't be worth, then probably we wouldn't have double digit number of campaigns running here. Especially these long term campaigns running here for few years - if companies putting money into it for long time, probably it means that sig campaigns delivers result for them and they're happy with it.
If everything is set up properly, I think it's definitely worth it.

Some other business owner thinks that they can earn easy success here if they run a short time running campaign but suddenly got turn off since it didn't meet their expectation that's why some of them doubt that signature campaign is really working. They didn't know that this will take time the same as what other long time running campaign do since repeatedly showing their banners will make people curious or remember them by the time they need something related on what people seeking.

That's why its no surprising for other people think short term that its not really worth because they failed to execute it on their own.

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Is it even worth it now? Should I pay someone for this?

If it wouldn't be worth, then probably we wouldn't have double digit number of campaigns running here. Especially these long term campaigns running here for few years - if companies putting money into it for long time, probably it means that sig campaigns delivers result for them and they're happy with it.
If everything is set up properly, I think it's definitely worth it.

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Quote from: examplens on September 08, 2021, 05:11:50 AM

Quote from: Digitalbitcoin on September 07, 2021, 10:52:10 PM

Here is a snap of Domain details of Bitcointalk.org

As per snap, Bitcointalk.org domain has very Higher Domain authority, Pageranks, Total Backlinks, Quality Backlinks, Alexa, and many more factors with higher grades. All these numbers are useful for SEO.

Getting do-follow links from the forum will definitely increase the SERP of the linked domain.

Nowadays there are many tactics used to get better SERP, but due to time to time updates by Search engines, it is very tough for individuals to meets all required requirements.

As I am with forum since 2015, I have used website title with URL in my profile which is boosting my SERP on major SE's.

yes, these are the details for the links found in the posts or in the forum profile.
but it is interesting that no one did the analysis of links in signature. Especially not when the signature campaign is ended and participants remove the signature with links. I guess it's treated like dead links, isn't it?

I have already done very small test. It's nothing significant but still better then nothing. Well, I posted my website in my signature and in two days I got 2 point in Ahrefs check. Some pages were almost instantly indexed. As I understood, there are some threads in bitcointalk that have it's own high PR because those threads have backlinks from other websites. One such thread was coming from one bitcoin mixer where I had posted on first page. But the problem to my mind is that if the website is brand new and has no links, then doing signature campaign on bitcointalk will bring you massive dofollow links and it looks spammy for google. You need a good ratio of do follow and no follow backlinks.

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Quote from: Digitalbitcoin on September 07, 2021, 10:52:10 PM

Here is a snap of Domain details of Bitcointalk.org

As per snap, Bitcointalk.org domain has very Higher Domain authority, Pageranks, Total Backlinks, Quality Backlinks, Alexa, and many more factors with higher grades. All these numbers are useful for SEO.

Getting do-follow links from the forum will definitely increase the SERP of the linked domain.

Nowadays there are many tactics used to get better SERP, but due to time to time updates by Search engines, it is very tough for individuals to meets all required requirements.

As I am with forum since 2015, I have used website title with URL in my profile which is boosting my SERP on major SE's.

yes, these are the details for the links found in the posts or in the forum profile.
but it is interesting that no one did the analysis of links in signature. Especially not when the signature campaign is ended and participants remove the signature with links. I guess it's treated like dead links, isn't it?

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Here is a snap of Domain details of Bitcointalk.org

As per snap, Bitcointalk.org domain has very Higher Domain authority, Pageranks, Total Backlinks, Quality Backlinks, Alexa, and many more factors with higher grades. All these numbers are useful for SEO.

Getting do-follow links from the forum will definitely increase the SERP of the linked domain.

Nowadays there are many tactics used to get better SERP, but due to time to time updates by Search engines, it is very tough for individuals to meets all required requirements.

As I am with forum since 2015, I have used website title with URL in my profile which is boosting my SERP on major SE's.

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Thanks for the clarification. To be honest, I understand in general terms what does SEO marketing is. But information about dofollow backlinks was new and very interesting for me. I know that such a mechanism as the advertising promotion using the artificial concept is very popular. You need to be well versed in it. But I don't understand why someone still publishes advertising on banners and on TV. For real, an SEO Company is the main engine of progress and development of your business; the future is behind it.

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Quote from: shield132 on May 15, 2020, 04:25:11 PM

Hi guys, first of all, I hope everyone is doing well.
The reason why I created this thread is to discuss other possible benefits of a signature campaign that's sometimes missed or not talked publicly.
So, first of all, this is my question:
Have signature campaigns helped you in improving your SEO conditions? When someone runs signature campaign here, surely website gets backlinks from different threads from bitcointalk that depends on how much posts users have and etc.
So when you started a signature campaign, what was your experience in it?
1. Did it improve your SEO?
2. If yes, then in what time frame?
3. How much influence it had on long term SEO ranks?
4. What happened when you stopped signature campaign?
5. Did your positions went down or did you still keep it?

In some way, signature campaigns did improve my SEO, but to an extent, though this was on a little way that I could get what it really means, until I found out, I got out for a while from the crypto space after the first deep of 2017, not too far from crypto, but from signature campaigns.
For questions 1, 2, 3 I have nothing much to say about them, but 4, when I stopped signature campaigns, it made me lose some good information about the market, the new technology and stuff of the Crypto world. As for my position in the forum, it went stagnant, not going up, neither is it going down.

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Quote from: shield132 on October 28, 2020, 04:35:24 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2020, 12:19:54 PM

I heard that if a website can get a "do-follow" link, that will help the website to have a solid backlink. If there are many do-follow backlinks from the other website, it will give a good ranking at the search engine for a specific keyword. The website needs to have a keyword to compete with the other website, and if that website can gain more do-follow links, it would affect the rank on the search engine. If you stop the campaign, even if your link is still at the forum, your position in the search engine may be replaced by other websites because they still use the campaign to have more backlinks from the do-follow backlinks from the other websites or forum. But I don't know much about SEO.

You have to keep a balance between do follow and no follow backlinks, otherwise google will negatively think about it. Some people think that 50/50 is good while others think 30/70 is the most optimal (nofolow/dofollow).
Dofollow backlinks, to say shortly means that you give away your strengths to a website that you link. When search engine bots craw pages, dofollow backlinks give them a signal that makes them understand which website links which one. If you get dofollow backlink from bitcointalk's main page, once the bot checks it, it will hugely increase the rank of your website and it will appear far trustful for search engines than it was before because it got dofollow backlink from a very reputable website.

Explained very clearly. I knew there was a difference, but I didn't go into great detail about it. I didn't do this on my own, I was more interested in the analysis of my site. I was working on keywords, and this tool made things much easier for me https://seranking.com/google-ranking-checker.html. html It's convenient to monitor the Google rating with this source and I check it almost every day. Regarding your request and according to my experience, I can give the next answers:
1. Yes, it has improved.
2.Significant results from two to three months.
3. Long-term ratings positively affected.
4. There have been no significant changes.
5. The positions didn't fall, it turned out to keep it.

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Quote from: shield132 on October 28, 2020, 04:35:24 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2020, 12:19:54 PM

I heard that if a website can get a "do-follow" link, that will help the website to have a solid backlink. If there are many do-follow backlinks from the other website, it will give a good ranking at the search engine for a specific keyword. The website needs to have a keyword to compete with the other website, and if that website can gain more do-follow links, it would affect the rank on the search engine. If you stop the campaign, even if your link is still at the forum, your position in the search engine may be replaced by other websites because they still use the campaign to have more backlinks from the do-follow backlinks from the other websites or forum. But I don't know much about SEO.

You have to keep a balance between do follow and no follow backlinks, otherwise google will negatively think about it. Some people think that 50/50 is good while others think 30/70 is the most optimal (nofolow/dofollow).
Dofollow backlinks, to say shortly means that you give away your strengths to a website that you link. When search engine bots craw pages, dofollow backlinks give them a signal that makes them understand which website links which one. If you get dofollow backlink from bitcointalk's main page, once the bot checks it, it will hugely increase the rank of your website and it will appear far trustful for search engines than it was before because it got dofollow backlink from a very reputable website.

As long as the do-follow links are more than the no-follow link, google will not give negatively, especially if you can get many links from one large website: do-follow links. But if you only have one links from one website, and the links will be more than the no-follow links, that will make google suspicious. So that can make your website have trusty from the search engine and get a better rank in the search engine.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2020, 12:19:54 PM

I heard that if a website can get a "do-follow" link, that will help the website to have a solid backlink. If there are many do-follow backlinks from the other website, it will give a good ranking at the search engine for a specific keyword. The website needs to have a keyword to compete with the other website, and if that website can gain more do-follow links, it would affect the rank on the search engine. If you stop the campaign, even if your link is still at the forum, your position in the search engine may be replaced by other websites because they still use the campaign to have more backlinks from the do-follow backlinks from the other websites or forum. But I don't know much about SEO.

You have to keep a balance between do follow and no follow backlinks, otherwise google will negatively think about it. Some people think that 50/50 is good while others think 30/70 is the most optimal (nofolow/dofollow).
Dofollow backlinks, to say shortly means that you give away your strengths to a website that you link. When search engine bots craw pages, dofollow backlinks give them a signal that makes them understand which website links which one. If you get dofollow backlink from bitcointalk's main page, once the bot checks it, it will hugely increase the rank of your website and it will appear far trustful for search engines than it was before because it got dofollow backlink from a very reputable website.

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I heard that if a website can get a "do-follow" link, that will help the website to have a solid backlink. If there are many do-follow backlinks from the other website, it will give a good ranking at the search engine for a specific keyword. The website needs to have a keyword to compete with the other website, and if that website can gain more do-follow links, it would affect the rank on the search engine. If you stop the campaign, even if your link is still at the forum, your position in the search engine may be replaced by other websites because they still use the campaign to have more backlinks from the do-follow backlinks from the other websites or forum. But I don't know much about SEO.

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As long as the link is live on the signature it will have an impact but take away the link in and the link juice will stop, but discussion about the project on their announcement thread and on the signature thread will have a lasting impact on the ranking, as long as the links are live it will help ranking in the search engine.

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