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Topic: How much does investing in education of less fortunate pay off? - page 2. (Read 2056 times)

legendary
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If you fund a school, tell kids what to think, teach when it's acceptable to hurt people and how to do it and then they do what you say you just need to mark it down as 'law enforcement' and not the violence it is, that's how violence is reduced by 'education'.

The state's violence is so huge and pervasive it doesn't even make sense to count incidents. Some guy grew pot in 2006, today they lock him in a cage, tomorrow they'll do the same, they are wrecking lives every minute. And the place where they preach the virtues of this behavior is called a school.

To say it all again, if you are hungry and take some food that's marked as a crime. If you grow some food and don't follow the rules guys (educated) will break into your house and that burglary will not be marked as a crime.

Stats from the government about the government as so deeply biased they nearly useless.
newbie
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So I'm in Chicago. A major perception here is that the corporatism/cronyism of city politicians is contributing to these problems. People in poorer neighborhoods like Pilsen (mainly hispanic) pay their property taxes, etc to the city. This money then gets put in a general fund and is used to develop and maintain areas elsewhere (in the well-connected "rich" part of the city) rather than improving the neighborhood it came from. On top of this, many property owners in Pilsen are unable to pay lawyers to explain the tax code to them and so are unaware of many exemptions, etc. The overall effect of this is draining wealth from the poorer neighborhood into the hands of well-connected property developers.

Meanwhile, the people/organizations benefiting from the use of the public funds elsewhere (ie rise in property value) are able to build up wealth. They then start seeing the cheap property in Pilsin and begin buying that up, putting up more expensive housing (for "artists and college students") and forcing out whoever was living on the property to begin with (who never got to use their tax money to invest in projects that would improve lives of themselves and their children). Thus the process of gentrification begins.

So, amongst many, the current attitude is that "community organizing" is the way to go. Larger governments just keep fucking these people over.

Now, what to do about Englewood? I have no idea. That place is crazy. I've experienced first hand that if you're white and go there, cops and drug dealers and everyone hanging outside the liquor stores give you shit until you leave. I've been told by a first hand source you gotta bring your piece with to take out the trash at night (to scare off the crackheads walking at you down the alley and shit) and avoid certain entrance ramps onto I-290 (people pop out of the bushes and carjack you). It's not that these are bad people, they just live in a fucked up environment and need to be willing to do certain shit to survive.

*edit, second hand account is lawndale not englewood

Politicians are the one fucking the poor over, they are spending their money on things that isn't needed.
hero member
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Hood to hood chicago (not englewood but some projects at 22nd and state, these got torn down a couple years ago):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSXnjqJ9kAg

Gangland about the SD's (pilsen):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7b0GS51Tho&feature=related
hero member
Activity: 728
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So I'm in Chicago. A major perception here is that the corporatism/cronyism of city politicians is contributing to these problems. People in poorer neighborhoods like Pilsen (mainly hispanic) pay their property taxes, etc to the city. This money then gets put in a general fund and is used to develop and maintain areas elsewhere (in the well-connected "rich" part of the city) rather than improving the neighborhood it came from. On top of this, many property owners in Pilsen are unable to pay lawyers to explain the tax code to them and so are unaware of many exemptions, etc. The overall effect of this is draining wealth from the poorer neighborhood into the hands of well-connected property developers.

Meanwhile, the people/organizations benefiting from the use of the public funds elsewhere (ie rise in property value) are able to build up wealth. They then start seeing the cheap property in Pilsin and begin buying that up, putting up more expensive housing (for "artists and college students") and forcing out whoever was living on the property to begin with (who never got to use their tax money to invest in projects that would improve lives of themselves and their children). Thus the process of gentrification begins.

So, amongst many, the current attitude is that "community organizing" is the way to go. Larger governments just keep fucking these people over.

Now, what to do about Englewood? I have no idea. That place is crazy. I've experienced first hand that if you're white and go there, cops and drug dealers and everyone hanging outside the liquor stores give you shit until you leave. I've been told by a first hand source you gotta bring your piece with to take out the trash at night (to scare off the crackheads walking at you down the alley and shit) and avoid certain entrance ramps onto I-290 (people pop out of the bushes and carjack you). It's not that these are bad people, they just live in a fucked up environment and need to be willing to do certain shit to survive.

*edit, second hand account is lawndale not englewood
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I just read this:
http://politic365.com/2011/12/15/excuse-me-im-that-poor-black-kid/

and AFAIK, tendency for violence and uselessness are usually connected to lack of education. What do you think? Providing links is encouraged, as usual Smiley
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