How much is a 100 BTC loaded Casascius bearer bar worth?

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Quote from: MoreBloodWine on December 30, 2014, 07:37:45 AM

I feel bad for having to ask this but I'm just not getting it. WTH is the difference between a 100BTC bar / bearer bar loaded with 100BTC.

100 BTC is 100 BTC.

The bearer bar was a blank bar (like a piggy bank) - no funded value. YOU fund the bar using the public address by putting coins in it.
Those bars go for about 1BTC (approx). So, if you fund it with 100BTC, then it would have a value of about 101BTC

The 100BTC bar was a bar manufactured (stamped/embossed) with 100 BTC on the face. There is only so many left (69 currently). So, way more rare.
This bar already contains 100BTC when Casascius produced/shipped them. Because they are rare, they are worth more.

In either case, you would pull the sticker to redeem the private key and the coins contained within which would lose the premium price of the bar itself.

The picture in the prior posting is of 3 bars. 1 is a 100 BTC bar, while the other 2 are the piggybank style. Of course the picture is prior to Casascius having put on the security stickers.

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I feel bad for having to ask this but I'm just not getting it. WTH is the difference between a 100BTC bar / bearer bar loaded with 100BTC.

100 BTC is 100 BTC.

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Quote from: Michail1 on December 29, 2014, 09:56:37 PM

He responded to me directly and said it was in fact a 100BTC bar (not simply a bearer bar later filled with 100BTC).

So, I would happily offer 120BTC for it if he got serious into selling it. I would love to get it auctioned with an end date, so that I could follow it and bid accordingly.

good luck. not a fan of bars. =/

now you will have to bust open your pretty clear frames and insert this one. assuming you win.

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He responded to me directly and said it was in fact a 100BTC bar (not simply a bearer bar later filled with 100BTC).

So, I would happily offer 120BTC for it if he got serious into selling it. I would love to get it auctioned with an end date, so that I could follow it and bid accordingly.

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Quote from: Michail1 on December 29, 2014, 03:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitmarket.io on December 29, 2014, 12:37:53 PM

Quote from: Michail1 on December 23, 2014, 08:39:59 PM

I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

dont u have some?
dont u think bars are kinda uglish?
why not sell the bars and get a 1k gold coin?

Yes, but why not get more?

If it's simply a bearer bar loaded with 100BTC, then it is worth 100.8BTC to me.
If it's a 100BTC bar, then it's worth way more than that. Since the OP hasn't chimed in, I am guessing this is a dead thread or simply a bearer bar. Either case, if I had a post with 100BTC in either type of bar, I would be replying. Hint. (Sending JohnK pictures doesn't answer the original question. Sad

From the photos that was shown to me, it's this (pic shown is from casascius, it looks like the leftmost one, with a hologram):

Quote from: casascius on October 10, 2011, 09:40:16 PM

....

I'm planning on offering them in two versions:

1 - a 100 BTC bar with a hologram, which works just like a Casascius physical bitcoin. The hologram itself will be specific to this product and will say Casascius 100 BTC directly on it.

....

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Quote from: Michail1 on December 29, 2014, 03:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitmarket.io on December 29, 2014, 12:37:53 PM

Quote from: Michail1 on December 23, 2014, 08:39:59 PM

I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

dont u have some?
dont u think bars are kinda uglish?
why not sell the bars and get a 1k gold coin?

Yes, but why not get more?

If it's simply a bearer bar loaded with 100BTC, then it is worth 100.8BTC to me.
If it's a 100BTC bar, then it's worth way more than that. Since the OP hasn't chimed in, I am guessing this is a dead thread or simply a bearer bar. Either case, if I had a post with 100BTC in either type of bar, I would be replying. Hint. (Sending JohnK pictures doesn't answer the original question. Sad

100btc bars are rare. i only see serious collectors with those. op doesn't seem so serious.

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Quote from: bitmarket.io on December 29, 2014, 12:37:53 PM

Quote from: Michail1 on December 23, 2014, 08:39:59 PM

I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

dont u have some?
dont u think bars are kinda uglish?
why not sell the bars and get a 1k gold coin?

Yes, but why not get more?

If it's simply a bearer bar loaded with 100BTC, then it is worth 100.8BTC to me.
If it's a 100BTC bar, then it's worth way more than that. Since the OP hasn't chimed in, I am guessing this is a dead thread or simply a bearer bar. Either case, if I had a post with 100BTC in either type of bar, I would be replying. Hint. (Sending JohnK pictures doesn't answer the original question. Sad

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 29, 2014, 12:18:09 PM

I have PMed pics of the bar to John K. with a handwritten sign for archival purposes in the event I decide to sell this bar. I decided I am not ready to yet. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations of what the bar is worth, and I don't want to get flamed or offend anyone by pretending to be a serious seller at this point. I was thinking 150 as a starting price, but I have the feeling nobody wants to come close to that.

As time goes on and these things get a little bit rarer, I will probably be back and reference this post, and hopefully John K will be around to help with the transaction. Thanks guys..

I would be VERY surprised if you get anyone to come close to a 50BTC premium on the bar. Good luck with your sale!

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Quote from: Michail1 on December 23, 2014, 08:39:59 PM

I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

dont u have some?
dont u think bars are kinda uglish?
why not sell the bars and get a 1k gold coin?

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I have PMed pics of the bar to John K. with a handwritten sign for archival purposes in the event I decide to sell this bar. I decided I am not ready to yet. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations of what the bar is worth, and I don't want to get flamed or offend anyone by pretending to be a serious seller at this point. I was thinking 150 as a starting price, but I have the feeling nobody wants to come close to that.

As time goes on and these things get a little bit rarer, I will probably be back and reference this post, and hopefully John K will be around to help with the transaction. Thanks guys..

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Quote from: Blazed on December 23, 2014, 11:43:09 PM

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Quote from: smoothie on December 23, 2014, 03:09:42 PM

Also, I can afford the 4 BTC item, my net worth in BTC is approximately 9.45 BTC currently +~$5,000 fiat. It isn't much but for a college student its not bad. However, I use that money for investing into the casinos' bankrolls and options, I don't consider that spendable money so yes throwing 4 BTC down on art is too much for me at this time.

So in other words you lied again here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9921626

4btc is too much to spend, but you are willing to give $10,000 away for a year and a half?

What else can one post but Roll Eyes

I know someone who has 500 BTC and knows I am graduating so I can easily get a loan backing that statement from him or anyone else that knows me. I have no problem guaranteeing up to 10k on a 1:1 bet saying I will graduate which you still have yet to back your word with. I am willing to use any trustworthy escrow on this site for such a bet. Meanwhile your photos grabbing one of your fellow workers' asses on facebook still goes to show how inappropriate and a pig you are Martin Lawrence. Continue "calling out scammers" I guarantee in 10 years I will have a greater net worth then you and I look forward to that day. I'll always remember you as the guy who claims to calls out scammers but pointedly posts sexually harrassing photos of himself in the act to his facebook. For once just shut up Vod, if I use escrow there is no way I can scam so stop your bullshit. Unlike you I actually have some motivation and drive in my life. What did you do this past year besides be a crappy security guard? I'm sure you saw zero action and enjoyed reading your magazines. Meanwhile I set up and registered two LLCs, made 10k+ in returns in a couple months on my first business and am in the process of setting up my 2nd, again profitable business.

So yes call me a scammer all you want Vod, you still just shout air at me trying to catch me tripping when you refuse yourself to back what you state. You say I'm lying about graduating, I offer a simple bet if you truly believe I'm a liar, you still refuse to make that and instead just make the usual "you're a liar" statement. Say something different, say something that proves you believe what you say cause you obviously don't. You must live a boring life as you troll and say things you don't mean or want to back up and actually prove you believe what you say.

Want to wager your bitcointalk account vs my $500? I'd even do that deal and mock your account once I own it after I graduate. Done with Vod, putting him well on ignore and banning him from my threads (thru auto-moderating).

Great ignore him...tired of reading your mindless rants about him..we get it you do not like him. Try moving on from the subject already..

I'm tired of him bothering me. Tell him to mind his business, if I commit a scam or say you send first then obviously call me out. Vod stalks every post I make when everytime I say straight up I will send first if trustworthy or use escrow. He starts this shit, I never do.

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Quote from: smoothie on December 23, 2014, 03:09:42 PM

Also, I can afford the 4 BTC item, my net worth in BTC is approximately 9.45 BTC currently +~$5,000 fiat. It isn't much but for a college student its not bad. However, I use that money for investing into the casinos' bankrolls and options, I don't consider that spendable money so yes throwing 4 BTC down on art is too much for me at this time.

So in other words you lied again here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9921626

4btc is too much to spend, but you are willing to give $10,000 away for a year and a half?

What else can one post but Roll Eyes

I know someone who has 500 BTC and knows I am graduating so I can easily get a loan backing that statement from him or anyone else that knows me. I have no problem guaranteeing up to 10k on a 1:1 bet saying I will graduate which you still have yet to back your word with. I am willing to use any trustworthy escrow on this site for such a bet. Meanwhile your photos grabbing one of your fellow workers' asses on facebook still goes to show how inappropriate and a pig you are Martin Lawrence. Continue "calling out scammers" I guarantee in 10 years I will have a greater net worth then you and I look forward to that day. I'll always remember you as the guy who claims to calls out scammers but pointedly posts sexually harrassing photos of himself in the act to his facebook. For once just shut up Vod, if I use escrow there is no way I can scam so stop your bullshit. Unlike you I actually have some motivation and drive in my life. What did you do this past year besides be a crappy security guard? I'm sure you saw zero action and enjoyed reading your magazines. Meanwhile I set up and registered two LLCs, made 10k+ in returns in a couple months on my first business and am in the process of setting up my 2nd, again profitable business.

So yes call me a scammer all you want Vod, you still just shout air at me trying to catch me tripping when you refuse yourself to back what you state. You say I'm lying about graduating, I offer a simple bet if you truly believe I'm a liar, you still refuse to make that and instead just make the usual "you're a liar" statement. Say something different, say something that proves you believe what you say cause you obviously don't. You must live a boring life as you troll and say things you don't mean or want to back up and actually prove you believe what you say.

Want to wager your bitcointalk account vs my $500? I'd even do that deal and mock your account once I own it after I graduate. Done with Vod, putting him well on ignore and banning him from my threads (thru auto-moderating).

Great ignore him...tired of reading your mindless rants about him..we get it you do not like him. Try moving on from the subject already..

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 07:57:21 AM

According to http://casascius.uberbills.com/ there are only 69 unopened bars out there. Pics next time I can get to the safe deposit box.

Since you are specifically quoting the number of Active 100BTC bars (Not simply a bearer bar loaded with 100BTC), I would like to offer 110 (with absolute expectations of going higher). Awaiting pictures.

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Quote from: naypalm on December 23, 2014, 08:41:10 PM

I'd start an auction at $20,000 and put a reserve at 45-50.

I'm still kicking myself for selling mine... Sad

I would think the auction reserve would be 100 Bitcoin, or $33,428? Since it wouldn't make much sense to even consider selling it for less than face value, at least that's how I see it anyway.

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Quote from: Michail1 on December 23, 2014, 08:39:59 PM

I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

OP should tip me for bringing him a serious buyer Cool

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howdy

I'd start an auction at $20,000 and put a reserve at 45-50.

I'm still kicking myself for selling mine... Sad

Michail1

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I am interested in buying it. Have a real price in mind?

Question. Is this a bearer bar or a 100BTC bar?

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You can just let the market find the price.. Start an auction at 101BTC and see where it goes from there.

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Guys I am not looking for a flame war. If you're interested in buying this or just want to say hi, PM me. Otherwise, I won't be checking this thread anymore. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all regardless.

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 11:45:13 AM

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 11:35:25 AM

How am I scammer if I offer and request escrow in my offer? Mind your own business for once.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9917121

I repaid the agreed upon 2 BTC loan and the agreed upon 2.01 BTC interest.

I have just spent 2 hours of my life eating popcorn reading your threads,

return what you owe you piece of shit scammer

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 08:56:57 AM

Quote from: markj113 on December 23, 2014, 08:51:29 AM

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 08:44:13 AM

I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

You couldn't afford a 4BTC item here yesterday -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meta-11-physical-bitcoin-sold-900656

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 22, 2014, 12:59:25 AM

Beautiful artwork, wish it was something I could afford. What denominations so far have been created and what denominations are you planning in full for the 10 coins of 2015?

So how can you afford a 101.5BTC here, no scam attempts I hope Huh

I have a family member who has over 500 BTC and I would simply middle it as he told me wanted one of these for 105. I'd take the difference.

Also, I can afford the 4 BTC item, my net worth in BTC is approximately 9.45 BTC currently +~$5,000 fiat. It isn't much but for a college student its not bad. However, I use that money for investing into the casinos' bankrolls and options, I don't consider that spendable money so yes throwing 4 BTC down on art is too much for me at this time.

Obviously with the wonderful "trade with caution" next to my name, if a deal were made here we would use escrow.

So in other words "I know a guy who has 500 BTC". Cheesy

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 11:45:13 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 11:35:25 AM

How am I scammer if I offer and request escrow in my offer? Mind your own business for once.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9917121

I repaid the agreed upon 2 BTC loan and the agreed upon 2.01 BTC interest.

No he didn't. He is a scammer and liar.

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 11:35:25 AM

How am I scammer if I offer and request escrow in my offer? Mind your own business for once.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9917121

I repaid the agreed upon 2 BTC loan and the agreed upon 2.01 BTC interest.

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 11:06:52 AM

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 10:31:41 AM

Scammer alert:

Quote from: 0pusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM

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I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-is-a-100-btc-loaded-casascius-bearer-bar-worth-903268

Hi,

If this is a serious bid and you can complete the sale quickly I will accept your offer.

Due to the value of the transaction I will have to assist on using Escrow.

My prefered Escrow provider is escrow.ms,

he's on the forum approved Escrow list-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716

Also has excellent trust feedback -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76380

If you want to trade drop me a pm and ill drop him a pm to make the arrangments.

Fake account created to represent the OP. Beware guys.

Wow, what a bad attempt too. Glad to see it got taken down quickly.

Hello again KoS. This is opusdigitus from the just-dice forums and I remember you. Hope you are doing well.

I remember you. Hope you are doing well yourself, best of luck to you and happy holidays.

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 08:56:57 AM

I have a family member who has over 500 BTC and I would simply middle it as he told me wanted one of these for 105. I'd take the difference.

Also, I can afford the 4 BTC item, my net worth in BTC is approximately 9.45 BTC currently +~$5,000 fiat. It isn't much but for a college student its not bad. However, I use that money for investing into the casinos' bankrolls and options, I don't consider that spendable money so yes throwing 4 BTC down on art is too much for me at this time.

Obviously with the wonderful "trade with caution" next to my name, if a deal were made here we would use escrow.

Opus - you know better to listen to this scammer twat from JD chat -

PM me and I might be able to help

How am I scammer if I offer and request escrow in my offer? Mind your own business for once.

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 07:57:21 AM

I am thinking about selling but don't know what to price it at. It is a version 2, fully loaded with 100 BTC on it, never tampered with, but it is not in the original wrapper that it was shipped with. I keep it wrapped in a lint free cloth inside a ziplock bag. Also, what should I provide as proof that I bought it from Mike? I have all the e-mail conversations saved with him, but not sure what that proves.

According to http://casascius.uberbills.com/ there are only 69 unopened bars out there. Pics next time I can get to the safe deposit box.

Mike should be able to provide you with a PGP signed message indicating you are the original purchaser of the bar. You can then re-sign the message with your PGP key to the buyer indicating the transfer ownership to extend the chain of custody. I would highly recommend doing this for this high value item!

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 10:31:41 AM

Scammer alert:

Quote from: 0pusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM

Quote

I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-is-a-100-btc-loaded-casascius-bearer-bar-worth-903268

Hi,

If this is a serious bid and you can complete the sale quickly I will accept your offer.

Due to the value of the transaction I will have to assist on using Escrow.

My prefered Escrow provider is escrow.ms,

he's on the forum approved Escrow list-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716

Also has excellent trust feedback -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76380

If you want to trade drop me a pm and ill drop him a pm to make the arrangments.

Fake account created to represent the OP. Beware guys.

Wow, what a bad attempt too. Glad to see it got taken down quickly.

Hello again KoS. This is opusdigitus from the just-dice forums and I remember you. Hope you are doing well.

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 07:57:21 AM

I am thinking about selling but don't know what to price it at. It is a version 2, fully loaded with 100 BTC on it, never tampered with, but it is not in the original wrapper that it was shipped with. I keep it wrapped in a lint free cloth inside a ziplock bag. Also, what should I provide as proof that I bought it from Mike? I have all the e-mail conversations saved with him, but not sure what that proves.

According to http://casascius.uberbills.com/ there are only 69 unopened bars out there. Pics next time I can get to the safe deposit box.

Just redeem your BTC and I will offer you 2btc for it.

Tempting. The security and fraud risks of selling such a high value item may not be worth it. I'd hate to redeem it but if they aren't fetching that much of a premium, I'd rather sell the redeemed bar by itself. Hmmm....

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Scammer alert:

Quote from: 0pusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM

Quote

I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-is-a-100-btc-loaded-casascius-bearer-bar-worth-903268

Hi,

If this is a serious bid and you can complete the sale quickly I will accept your offer.

Due to the value of the transaction I will have to assist on using Escrow.

My prefered Escrow provider is escrow.ms,

he's on the forum approved Escrow list-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716

Also has excellent trust feedback -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76380

If you want to trade drop me a pm and ill drop him a pm to make the arrangments.

Fake account created to represent the OP. Beware guys.

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Quote from: opusdigitus on December 23, 2014, 07:57:21 AM

I am thinking about selling but don't know what to price it at. It is a version 2, fully loaded with 100 BTC on it, never tampered with, but it is not in the original wrapper that it was shipped with. I keep it wrapped in a lint free cloth inside a ziplock bag. Also, what should I provide as proof that I bought it from Mike? I have all the e-mail conversations saved with him, but not sure what that proves.

According to http://casascius.uberbills.com/ there are only 69 unopened bars out there. Pics next time I can get to the safe deposit box.

Just redeem your BTC and I will offer you 2btc for it.

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Quote from: markj113 on December 23, 2014, 08:51:29 AM

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 08:44:13 AM

I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

You couldn't afford a 4BTC item here yesterday -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meta-11-physical-bitcoin-sold-900656

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 22, 2014, 12:59:25 AM

Beautiful artwork, wish it was something I could afford. What denominations so far have been created and what denominations are you planning in full for the 10 coins of 2015?

So how can you afford a 101.5BTC here, no scam attempts I hope Huh

I have a family member who has over 500 BTC and I would simply middle it as he told me wanted one of these for 105. I'd take the difference.

Also, I can afford the 4 BTC item, my net worth in BTC is approximately 9.45 BTC currently +~$5,000 fiat. It isn't much but for a college student its not bad. However, I use that money for investing into the casinos' bankrolls and options, I don't consider that spendable money so yes throwing 4 BTC down on art is too much for me at this time.

Obviously with the wonderful "trade with caution" next to my name, if a deal were made here we would use escrow.

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 23, 2014, 08:44:13 AM

I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

You couldn't afford a 4BTC item here yesterday -

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/meta-11-physical-bitcoin-sold-900656

Quote from: KingOfSports on December 22, 2014, 12:59:25 AM

Beautiful artwork, wish it was something I could afford. What denominations so far have been created and what denominations are you planning in full for the 10 coins of 2015?

So how can you afford a 101.5BTC here, no scam attempts I hope Huh

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I'd offer 101.5 BTC for it.

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I am thinking about selling but don't know what to price it at. It is a version 2, fully loaded with 100 BTC on it, never tampered with, but it is not in the original wrapper that it was shipped with. I keep it wrapped in a lint free cloth inside a ziplock bag. Also, what should I provide as proof that I bought it from Mike? I have all the e-mail conversations saved with him, but not sure what that proves.

According to http://casascius.uberbills.com/ there are only 69 unopened bars out there. Pics next time I can get to the safe deposit box.

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