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December 28, 2017, 06:28:28 PM
#59

 The ONLY Corsair line I will even look at is the AX - the rest all use CHEAP JUNK "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans that do not last at high loads.
 The AX line happens to be basically the old Seasonic SS-series Platinum rated power supplies with some very minor changes (same platform as the Seasonic X-series Gold supplies).

 EVGA G2/P2/T2 line is good, but I don't know if they still make them.
 Their newer G3/P3/T3 line has those junk "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans, I won't even LOOK at the things.
 EVGA GQ line uses junk "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans.


 The H81 Pro works well, but it's Socket 1150 which is getting hard to find decent low-cost CPUs for.
 I have no idea what they changed on the "rev 2" of that board vs the original, but since the original is long out of production it doesn't matter much any more if you don't already HAVE the original.
 I think they make a H110-based update to that board that is socket 1151 and otherwise pretty much the same.


 The GTX 1080 isn't a real good mining choice - it's not BAD, but it gets beat on efficiency by the 1070ti on NVidia-friendly coins and the 1070 beats it hands down on ETH - not that the 1070 should be mining ETH anyway, it makes more on other stuff.
 1080 isn't a BAD choice - just not optimal on hash/$ or hash/watt though close vs the other NVidia options.

 AMD high-end Polaris cards do well on Ethash coins (ETH/ETC/related), fair on Cryoptonight (Monero), and tend to not be all that good on much of anything else (probably some small niche coins they do well I don't know about though) though not BAD, just not optimal....

The HX line from Corsair was the best before AX came along. I see a lot of 860AX that have shitty reviews e.g. newegg.
I think the HX line was the best I remember buying a 620HX for 150$ back in 2008. How times have changed.
Btw that PSU is in my mining rig to this day and is powering a 1070 Smiley
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December 28, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
#58
How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

For a 6x 1060s easily do 2 psu's 750 p2, g2 and save yourself a few hundred dollars. 1600 P2 for that setup is overkill.
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December 28, 2017, 06:04:37 PM
#57
Looking at the prices and depending n where you live you could probably get a 4gpu rig $700 for the Mobo ram cpu psu and HDD and the rest for the cards.

How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.

That is why overkill unless you plan on adding more gpus into the 6 you rig. A 1200w platinum PSU is good. Evga or cosair.

I was planning on scaling to 12 GPUs.  The motherboard I bought can hold 19 GPUs and has 3 separate power supplies per 6 GPUs.  I was planning on getting 2 power supplies eventually. 

Are u going to use Linux or are you going to try it on WIn 10?

Yes, I was planning on using Linux.
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December 28, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
#56
Looking at the prices and depending n where you live you could probably get a 4gpu rig $700 for the Mobo ram cpu psu and HDD and the rest for the cards.

How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.

That is why overkill unless you plan on adding more gpus into the 6 you rig. A 1200w platinum PSU is good. Evga or cosair.

I was planning on scaling to 12 GPUs.  The motherboard I bought can hold 19 GPUs and has 3 separate power supplies per 6 GPUs.  I was planning on getting 2 power supplies eventually. 

Are u going to use Linux or are you going to try it on WIn 10?
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December 28, 2017, 05:41:35 PM
#55
Looking at the prices and depending n where you live you could probably get a 4gpu rig $700 for the Mobo ram cpu psu and HDD and the rest for the cards.

How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.

That is why overkill unless you plan on adding more gpus into the 6 you rig. A 1200w platinum PSU is good. Evga or cosair.

I was planning on scaling to 12 GPUs.  The motherboard I bought can hold 19 GPUs and has 3 separate power supplies per 6 GPUs.  I was planning on getting 2 power supplies eventually. 
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December 28, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
#54
The PSU should be a EVGA or CORSAIR 1200 watt , fully modular and Platinum rated like the Hx1200 from Corsair, this PSU can keep up 5 cards even if they are running near 200 watt but that is not the case because when you are mining Ethereum they are consuming 135 watt each from GPU-Z or MSI afterburner app.

I would advise you to buy 6x 1060 GB 3GB for 1200 USD which would be a better choice, the consumption would be much lower than with RX 580 and you can mine Zcash to get approximately the same amount as for 5x RX 580. Make sure to buy a good motherboard for mining, like ASROCK H81 PRO BTC which supports 6 cards easily.

 The ONLY Corsair line I will even look at is the AX - the rest all use CHEAP JUNK "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans that do not last at high loads.
 The AX line happens to be basically the old Seasonic SS-series Platinum rated power supplies with some very minor changes (same platform as the Seasonic X-series Gold supplies).

 EVGA G2/P2/T2 line is good, but I don't know if they still make them.
 Their newer G3/P3/T3 line has those junk "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans, I won't even LOOK at the things.
 EVGA GQ line uses junk "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans.


 The H81 Pro works well, but it's Socket 1150 which is getting hard to find decent low-cost CPUs for.
 I have no idea what they changed on the "rev 2" of that board vs the original, but since the original is long out of production it doesn't matter much any more if you don't already HAVE the original.
 I think they make a H110-based update to that board that is socket 1151 and otherwise pretty much the same.


 The GTX 1080 isn't a real good mining choice - it's not BAD, but it gets beat on efficiency by the 1070ti on NVidia-friendly coins and the 1070 beats it hands down on ETH - not that the 1070 should be mining ETH anyway, it makes more on other stuff.
 1080 isn't a BAD choice - just not optimal on hash/$ or hash/watt though close vs the other NVidia options.

 AMD high-end Polaris cards do well on Ethash coins (ETH/ETC/related), fair on Cryoptonight (Monero), and tend to not be all that good on much of anything else (probably some small niche coins they do well I don't know about though) though not BAD, just not optimal....

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December 28, 2017, 03:48:49 PM
#53
Hi bitcointalk, I want to build mining rig but I dont have the slightest idea how will i build one and how much would it cost me. Currently I have $ 2000. Would it suffice to build mining rig?

Yes, $2000 is probably about the average investment in mining equipment. With that amount you could build a nice rig of 4 to 6 cards and the associated support hardware. Much of the choice will come down to which coins you want to mine. Ethereum typically favors AMD and Equihash (Zcash) favors Nvidia, but they both can mine the other algorithm in a pinch.

Typical ETH build:

5 x RX580 8 GB - $310 ea or $1,550 total
1 x mobo with support for 5 or 6 GPUs - ~$120
1 x CPU (Intel G4400) - ~$50
1 x RAM 4 GB - ~ $30
1 x 120 GB SSD - ~$50
5 x PCIe USB risers - $50
1 x 1000 watts PSU - $150

This would put you right at your $2,000 budget. You would also need some type of frame to hold everything so you might need another $50 or so in materials.

A Zcash (Equihash) build would be much the same except you would pick some Nvidia cards such as the 1070's or perhaps the 1060's instead. The 1070's run around $500 so you could run 3 x of them and the 1060's go for $200 for the 3 GB version and $350 for the 6 GB version so you could run 5 or even 6x (if your motherboard supports it).

Are these GPU's still profitable compared to 1070 or 1080's?
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December 28, 2017, 03:28:23 PM
#52
Hi bitcointalk, I want to build mining rig but I dont have the slightest idea how will i build one and how much would it cost me. Currently I have $ 2000. Would it suffice to build mining rig?

Yes, $2000 is probably about the average investment in mining equipment. With that amount you could build a nice rig of 4 to 6 cards and the associated support hardware. Much of the choice will come down to which coins you want to mine. Ethereum typically favors AMD and Equihash (Zcash) favors Nvidia, but they both can mine the other algorithm in a pinch.

Typical ETH build:

5 x RX580 8 GB - $310 ea or $1,550 total
1 x mobo with support for 5 or 6 GPUs - ~$120
1 x CPU (Intel G4400) - ~$50
1 x RAM 4 GB - ~ $30
1 x 120 GB SSD - ~$50
5 x PCIe USB risers - $50
1 x 1000 watts PSU - $150

This would put you right at your $2,000 budget. You would also need some type of frame to hold everything so you might need another $50 or so in materials.

A Zcash (Equihash) build would be much the same except you would pick some Nvidia cards such as the 1070's or perhaps the 1060's instead. The 1070's run around $500 so you could run 3 x of them and the 1060's go for $200 for the 3 GB version and $350 for the 6 GB version so you could run 5 or even 6x (if your motherboard supports it).

I also don't agree with your Psu or gpu advice.  Not saying it's bad but I have a different opinion.  If mining Eth why 5x 580s for 310 dollars? I'd rather have 8x 570s at 210 dollars.  Those should be good for another year, and who knows if mining Eth will still be one of the more profitable coins in a year?  8 570s will get you about 224 mHs vs 150 MHs for those 5 580s.

I'd also rather mine Eth with 1070s if I have to pay over 300 dollars for the 580s anyways and wanted DAG size insuranceil into 2019.

I would also get 2 PSUs.  750s or 850 And I'd go evga gq.   It's close in price and you run much more efficiently at 50 to 60 percent of load and allows you to run 8 cards.

Don't buy off eBay either.  They are selling stuff above retail price and you don't get the warranty.

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December 27, 2017, 09:47:34 PM
#50
The only bad advice around here is yours.

He is not entirely wrong or right, I guess his reply was cause op is inexperienced so he will never hit the consumption you would hit. I do have experience and I can say 1000w is more than enough but you need skill to optimize it. Also the prices you said are spot on, around 2100 usd, 5 x rx 580  will give you around $4 per day which in turn you will get back your money back in 525 days or 18 months to be precise but your system will have to be 24/7 and without problems and that is impossible, so count it as 24 months to get your money back. If you buy eth right now, in few days you will get 500% or more hehe and no problems at all.

I am not against overbuying on a quality PSU, well I am to a point, but linking some benchmark showing some extreme wattage usage does not help a beginner in any way and that was the main point to my rebuttal. Also, I think if you are getting into mining you do need to also learn how to tweak and optimize your rigs. Just throwing an overpriced excessive wattage PSU at non-optimized settings may have worked in April, May, June, July, and perhaps August for ROI purposes, but going forward people getting into the game are going to need to learn to optimize, optimize, optimize.

As far as the ROI question, I am with you 100% but I am tired of pointing out the obvious to people who only want to know how to get into mining. So I stopped pointing that fact out and now just offer advice on how to build rigs. But this again empathizes my goal of not overspending where you do not need to. Spending an extra $50-$75 on a oversized PSU will only lengthen that period.

So I recommend to the OP once he buys his gear, which I stand behind in my listing above, that he also comes back and asks about how to tweak it for optimal performance. There is also no harm in buying the base components that will support a a 5-6 GPU rig and only starting with 3-4 GPUs to learn these intricacies. Once you have this down you can always upgrade your rig to its maximum potential. This way you will have the best of both worlds, a reasonably priced and sized rig and you wont burn your house down in the interim period of learning how it all goes together and works.


theres one problem with your "but going forward people getting into the game are going to need to learn to optimize, optimize, optimize."

garenteed that's going to be too much for a beginner to handle and not to mention ANY BIOS MODS VOID THE FUCKING WARRENTY, which might I add YOU DIDNT MENTION. come on man. how would you like to be told only a part of the information then only to find out the gpu someone else told you to mod got screwed and they failed to say hey if you mod the bios it will void the warrenty and you wont be able to get a replacement unless you can manage to get the original bios back on it and also considering most gpus currently only come with a single bios telling a noob to mod his stuff is in fact a bad idea all in itself.
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December 27, 2017, 09:33:52 PM
#49
How much can you earn monthly with a 2 - 2.5k rig?
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December 27, 2017, 09:33:01 PM
#48
Thanks everyone!  I now feel more confident in my power supply purchase. 
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December 27, 2017, 02:45:03 PM
#47
How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

I'm running 6 x 1070 and 7 x 1070/1070TI rigs on Corsair HX1200i PSU with no problems.

If you run your cards at around 125w, it would be 6x125=750 + lets say 100w system =850w.
850/1200=70% load on PSU, so there's room for another card.

HX1200i (platinum) should be under $300.
Also, get 1070TIs instead of regular 1070s  : )
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December 27, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
#46
How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.

850 PSU is enough for the 3 cards are something but if you want to extend the multiple graphics card in the mining board you will get the 1200 power supply means you will get the better supply for mining rig. You can build the mining rig with the 12 cards with the double step rig.
Cards are according to the cost you spare for it. Most preferable mining card is rx 470 8GB cards or nividia 1070ti cards. Choose the card according to the amount you invested.
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December 27, 2017, 01:13:01 PM
#45
Looking at the prices and depending n where you live you could probably get a 4gpu rig $700 for the Mobo ram cpu psu and HDD and the rest for the cards.

How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.

That is why overkill unless you plan on adding more gpus into the 6 you rig. A 1200w platinum PSU is good. Evga or cosair.
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December 27, 2017, 12:54:51 PM
#44
Depends. Are you planning to mine for longer than 6months? Then go for the quality PSUs. EVGA is good and so is Corsair.
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December 27, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
#43
How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.

Can't go wrong with those - they are pricey but those and G2 850's are my 2 top favorite PSU's. I also have Thermaltake 1500, Quark 850's and Corsair 850's, all of them have been hashing away for the past year no issues so far but who knows down the line.
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December 27, 2017, 11:52:34 AM
#42
Power supplies bear a pretty heavy load so I wouldn't go cheap on those. I don't really have a recommendation because I'm currently mid build myself but articles I've read say to get quality power supplies.
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December 27, 2017, 12:22:51 AM
#41
How much should I spend on a power supply?  I am building a rig with 6 1070s and was thinking of buying a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM.  Any advice is appreciated.
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November 06, 2017, 06:58:57 AM
#40
So with this TYPICAL 2000$  config
Typical ETH build:

5 x RX580 8 GB - $310 ea or $1,550 total
1 x mobo with support for 5 or 6 GPUs - ~$120
1 x CPU (Intel G4400) - ~$50
1 x RAM 4 GB - ~ $30
1 x 120 GB SSD - ~$50
5 x PCIe USB risers - $50
1 x 1000 watts PSU - $150

,

nowadays, How much $ we can make monthly ?

The 580 price has reduced from that figure.
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