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legendary
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e-ducat.fr
January 14, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
#43
If I may quote someone in another thread, my favorite answer to this question:

"Internet money for smart people. You would'nt be interested."

Obnoxious but sure to raise earnest eyebrows and more questions.
legendary
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January 13, 2012, 07:06:02 PM
#42
The thing is that it should come up naturally in conversation, then the conversation should flow to the next thing. If someone just comes up to me and starts telling me about internet money (which, after watching that recent Bitcoin TV, is what I imagine Bruce Wagner does) I will assume its a scam they fell for. Also, if your goal is evangelizing rather than just passing along info, I would recommended quoting a value slightly below what it is now (or at least round down to the nearest dollar). It is also good to have other interesting things to talk about as well that establish yourself as a source of interesting information, bitcoin being only one example.

That is kind of rambling, but I really hope there aren't people out there just being like "check out these bitcoins they're awesome".

This. Usually, if I talk about Bitcoin (and I don't, that often) , it's just to start a discussion about related subjects - centralized planning, currencies, financial systems, the Internet, free markets... Bitcoin just happens to be an interesting example of a very different approach to a lot of these things. Generally, if the discussion includes an explanation of what the system is, and that it can be traded for other currencies or goods, people will ask what it's worth, and I can't really answer that without giving an outline of the rollercoaster ride of the exchange rate, and end up saying I bought some when it was cheap (relatively speaking), am theoretically well in the profit zone still but really wouldn't like to say where it's going to go next.
hero member
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January 13, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
#41
The thing is that it should come up naturally in conversation, then the conversation should flow to the next thing. If someone just comes up to me and starts telling me about internet money (which, after watching that recent Bitcoin TV, is what I imagine Bruce Wagner does) I will assume its a scam they fell for. Also, if your goal is evangelizing rather than just passing along info, I would recommended quoting a value slightly below what it is now (or at least round down to the nearest dollar). It is also good to have other interesting things to talk about as well that establish yourself as a source of interesting information, bitcoin being only one example.

That is kind of rambling, but I really hope there aren't people out there just being like "check out these bitcoins they're awesome".
hero member
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January 13, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
#40
It is a digital currency running on a peer-to-peer network similar to bittorrent. Only a limited quantity will ever be produced, and there is no central authority that will ever be able to undermine that. Bitcoins can be sent over the internet with virtually no transaction fees and with a fair degree of anonymity.

Some people use it just to speculate on its value (it has swung between 50 cents and $30 a bitcoin over the last year).

There are (hundreds, thousands...?) of merchants online that will sell virtual and real goods that will sell things such as coffee, apparel, and even illegal drugs (if you are into that sort of thing).
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Many of these statements open up the other person to asking questions. I think this is better than just an elevator speech. You want to leave openings for them to ask questions.

If they are into the drugs thing, explain about the silk road. Some fence sitters will become instant converts once they see the actual site.

If not so much, show them a couple sites you have bought things on.

Set them up with an address on strongcoin, and send them a coin (or just keep a couple bitcoin cheques in your pocket (not necessarily from printcoin.com)).
legendary
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Firstbits: 1pirata
January 13, 2012, 05:20:54 PM
#39
I suppose such an exchange costs me a 1 BTC casascius coin, but I really do believe people keep them like treasure.  I gave away a LOT of Casascius Coins at CES.
This is why your physical coins are so useful. I gave away a lot for Christmas gifts and I've given them away in conversations as well. I ordered a bunch of coins in November and I'm all out except for the ones that I keep for myself. Need to order more soon. Smiley

Regarding the OP, I agree that BitTorrent is a very good analogy to use if the person knows what it is. We need ways of making the connection with different type of people though, BitTorrent works well with tech-oriented young people but not so well with some other types of people.

BitTorrent is often associated with software/music/movie piracy. True or not, I'm not sure that associating bitcoin with BitTorrent is sending a particularly positive message.  Undecided

the people using bittorrent in fact know they aren't doing anything illegal and get allot of benefit from it  Wink
legendary
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January 13, 2012, 05:20:37 PM
#38
I've been emphasizing that it's the first decentralized currency to provide decent protection against counterfeiting. That's the number one feature of Bitcoin IMO. Technically it might be the first decentralized currency, period, since without protection against counterfeiting there's little point to a currency, but that's getting a bit far into it for first impressions.
legendary
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January 13, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
#37
I suppose such an exchange costs me a 1 BTC casascius coin, but I really do believe people keep them like treasure.  I gave away a LOT of Casascius Coins at CES.
This is why your physical coins are so useful. I gave away a lot for Christmas gifts and I've given them away in conversations as well. I ordered a bunch of coins in November and I'm all out except for the ones that I keep for myself. Need to order more soon. Smiley

Regarding the OP, I agree that BitTorrent is a very good analogy to use if the person knows what it is. We need ways of making the connection with different type of people though, BitTorrent works well with tech-oriented young people but not so well with some other types of people.

BitTorrent is often associated with software/music/movie piracy. True or not, I'm not sure that associating bitcoin with BitTorrent is sending a particularly positive message.  Undecided
legendary
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Affordable Physical Bitcoins - Denarium.com
January 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
#36
I suppose such an exchange costs me a 1 BTC casascius coin, but I really do believe people keep them like treasure.  I gave away a LOT of Casascius Coins at CES.
This is why your physical coins are so useful. I gave away a lot for Christmas gifts and I've given them away in conversations as well. I ordered a bunch of coins in November and I'm all out except for the ones that I keep for myself. Need to order more soon. Smiley

Regarding the OP, I agree that BitTorrent is a very good analogy to use if the person knows what it is. We need ways of making the connection with different type of people though, BitTorrent works well with tech-oriented young people but not so well with some other types of people.
vip
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
January 13, 2012, 04:35:03 PM
#35
If the person understands BitTorrent:

"You know what BitTorrent is, right?  Well Bitcoin is the same thing, but for money.  You can buy illegal drugs with Bitcoins.  The website for illegal drugs went up last February and no one has been able to shut it down since.  Not that I advocate people using drugs, but I say that just to give you an idea of how serious of an idea this is.  Also, Bitcoins fluctuate in value.  Within the last year, they have been 47 cents, they have been 30 dollars.  Today they are just under 7 dollars.  Here is a bitcoin.  Go google it.  If nothing else, stick this under your mattress, don't forget you have it, because if you hear about Bitcoin in the news and not from me, it could easily be worth $100.  Or it could be worth $0.  No one knows.  But I wouldn't be this excited if I thought they were going to $0."

Oftentimes (especially if they are a BitTorrent user) they tend to leave pretty excited and promising to go hit Google ASAP.  I suppose such an exchange costs me a 1 BTC casascius coin, but I really do believe people keep them like treasure.  I gave away a LOT of Casascius Coins at CES.
donator
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Gerald Davis
January 13, 2012, 04:25:17 PM
#34
Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy drugs and socks for alpacas.  Grin

You almost had it right!

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy socks and drugs for alpacas.  Smiley


You must have been doing some of those drugs because Satoshi told me

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy alpacas and drugs for socks.  Smiley


Bitcoin is a financial commodity that behaves like cash but, unlike cash, it can buy drugs for alpacas hooked on socks.  Cry


You win.

For some reason I lolz at the idea of alpacas who are hooked on socks.  Now my co-workers are looking at me.
hero member
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January 13, 2012, 02:43:39 AM
#33
I don't know if there is non-nerdy language available to explain it. Usually it goes something like this:

Its a peer-to-peer currency that works like torrents. You can use it like paypal or a credit card, but there's much lower fees since paypal and credit card companies are ripping us all off. The idea for this has been around since the 80s but the trick was to make every transaction verified by the network of people using it so there's no counterfeiting. Its only been around two years so right now alot of people use it for political reasons or to buy drugs over the internet and stuff. The price is really volatile right now so you can make a bunch of money gambling on it. If the project works out one bitcoin could be worth a grand or more in a few years, its like 6 bucks each right now. I bought an e-cig with it and quit smoking...

Then go into the conversation about quitting smoking and why you just bummed a cig off the person.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
January 13, 2012, 01:59:25 AM
#32
Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy drugs and socks for alpacas.  Grin

You almost had it right!

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy socks and drugs for alpacas.  Smiley


You must have been doing some of those drugs because Satoshi told me

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy alpacas and drugs for socks.  Smiley


Bitcoin is a financial commodity that behaves like cash but, unlike cash, it can buy drugs for alpacas hooked on socks.  Cry
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
January 13, 2012, 01:52:25 AM
#31
Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy drugs and socks for alpacas.  Grin

You almost had it right!

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy socks and drugs for alpacas.  Smiley


You must have been doing some of those drugs because Satoshi told me


Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy alpacas and drugs for socks.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
January 12, 2012, 09:27:02 PM
#30
Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy drugs and socks for alpacas.  Grin

You almost had it right!

Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy socks and drugs for alpacas.  Smiley
donator
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Merit: 500
January 12, 2012, 02:57:07 PM
#29
when you will able to hash transactions off digital realm we could call it something else beside being purely digital )

The hashing isn't the bitcoin, it's used to produce an address and record and secure transactions.  Banks preform similiar functions, in the digital realm.  Whatever works best for you is great.  I'm just pointing out that bitcoin isn't that far from how many people treat money today (other than where you can spend it).  I really can't remember the last time I bought something for cash, or even carried cash.  I have direct deposit, online bill pay, and debit cards.  I transfer money to friends with Dwolla and Paypal.  My main bank doesn't even have physical buildings. The only thing different about using bitcoin is the transaction procedures are reversed (protecting my account information), and it's all decentralized (preventing tracking and freezes).  People understand that.  Why confuse the issue - unless they ask for more detail. 
legendary
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January 12, 2012, 02:38:55 PM
#28
- it is purely digital even if it can take tangible appearance

So is my paycheck, which rarely takes a tangible appearance.  I think I have more physical bitcoins that physical dollars at any given time. I don't even know where my checkbook is, that's probably bad.

when you will able to hash transactions off digital realm we could call it something else beside being purely digital )
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
January 12, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
#27
Bitcoin is a type of electronic carrot used on the internet to buy drugs and socks for alpacas.  Grin
donator
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Merit: 500
January 12, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
#26
- it is purely digital even if it can take tangible appearance

So is my paycheck, which rarely takes a tangible appearance.  I think I have more physical bitcoins that physical dollars at any given time. I don't even know where my checkbook is, that's probably bad.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
January 12, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
#25
"Bitcoin is a financial commodity that behaves like cash" sounds more confusing

my vote goes for
"A digital commodity that behaves like cash"
- it is purely digital even if it can take tangible appearance
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
January 12, 2012, 01:10:21 PM
#24
"A digital commodity that behaves like cash" is what I would say to a layperson.

It's not always digital...how about a financial commodity?

"Bitcoin is a financial commodity that behaves like cash."

How close are we?
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