How To Blast Bitcoin Onto The World Stage - page 2.

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Quote from: mindtomatter on June 17, 2013, 04:57:59 PM

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 17, 2013, 04:34:03 PM

This forum is so friging bipolar. One half wants to go to Washington and work with the government on favorable regulation. The other half wants to send funding to someone that very government thinks is a traitor. I'm pretty sure those two concepts are in conflict.

I don't think those two things are even tangentially related. People who advocate for engaging with regulators do so because they believe regulation is coming with or without our involvement, not because they love and respect the government and want regulation as an expression of that love.

You don't think giving the government something else to hate about Bitcoin is a negative? You believe working with them is a "necessary evil" and those bitcoiners working with them really hate the government but are selling out for survival. Correct or no?

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 17, 2013, 04:34:03 PM

This forum is so friging bipolar. One half wants to go to Washington and work with the government on favorable regulation. The other half wants to send funding to someone that very government thinks is a traitor. I'm pretty sure those two concepts are in conflict.

I don't think those two things are even tangentially related. People who advocate for engaging with regulators do so because they believe regulation is coming with or without our involvement, not because they love and respect the government and want regulation as an expression of that love.

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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

This forum is so friging bipolar. One half wants to go to Washington and work with the government on favorable regulation. The other half wants to send funding to someone that very government thinks is a traitor. I'm pretty sure those two concepts are in conflict.

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Snowden seems like a smart guy, if he wanted Bitcoins he'd ask. IMO This is a false start, don't donate money until it verifiably is going to go somewhere.

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Sage, maybe you should have the historical honor of posting the question, since it was your idea?

Haha, the Q&A is already over.

...No bitcoin questions were answered.

Sage

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He's answering questions direct here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower

Only popular questions get addressed.

Post a question asking for his Bitcoin address.

There's nothing to lose and plenty to be gained by doing so.

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He is doing an interview now (4pm BST, 11am ET US, 8am PT US):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower

Quote from: alyssa85 on June 17, 2013, 04:38:49 AM

I would leave well alone, we'd be doing more harm than good.

Bitcoin has a public ledger - so as soon as the vanity address is published folk will be watching to see how and where it is spent.

Bitcoin is only pseudonomous as long as you don't associate an address with an identity. As soon as you (which is what people are proposing) you are out in the open with a spotlight on you.

Hopefully Snowden had the sense to switch some of his money into bitcoins before he gave his interviews. Otherwise he's better off with fiat in small used bills.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on June 17, 2013, 04:38:49 AM

I would leave well alone, we'd be doing more harm than good.

Bitcoin has a public ledger - so as soon as the vanity address is published folk will be watching to see how and where it is spent.

Bitcoin is only pseudonomous as long as you don't associate an address with an identity. As soon as you (which is what people are proposing) you are out in the open with a spotlight on you.

Hopefully Snowden had the sense to switch some of his money into bitcoins before he gave his interviews. Otherwise he's better off with fiat in small used bills.

he could mix his coins if he needed too he is a computer scientist after all right?

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I would leave well alone, we'd be doing more harm than good.

Bitcoin has a public ledger - so as soon as the vanity address is published folk will be watching to see how and where it is spent.

Bitcoin is only pseudonomous as long as you don't associate an address with an identity. As soon as you (which is what people are proposing) you are out in the open with a spotlight on you.

Hopefully Snowden had the sense to switch some of his money into bitcoins before he gave his interviews. Otherwise he's better off with fiat in small used bills.

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Bitcoin should not be associated with being antagonistic towards authorities at its infancy stage. Ultimately it would be great if it becomes the de-facto world currency. That being said, Snowden is standing up for a good cause which Bitcoin can associate with. It is a good idea to show support but we don’t need to ‘advertise’ Bitcoin by means of controversy.
However if we get an address to/from him, all we need is for Snowden to just use the word “Bitcoin” in some positive context e.g. “the Bitcoin community has been very supportive”. Curious people will pick it up and Google it… The internet and word of mouth will take it from there.

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Now they are thinking what to do with me

If you want to do something like this I suggest you take a different approach.

Try to pass the message along (probably via the guardian journalist would be a good start) for Snowden to state a Bitcoin address (probably with a video with it, to avoid scams) for donations to go to help.

It would be harder the way in the OP, as you'd need to get in touch with him anyway to pass along the private key, lots of encryption and such, but just asking him to make/state an address can easily be done publicly, and you can't be held accountable IF he does listen and publicly states a donation address.

Mind you ... does Bitcoin need that particular kind of attention at this time?

Bad and good sides I see .. murky is the future ..

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good idea

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Do we know Mr. Greenwald's position on Bitcoin?

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 16, 2013, 08:08:06 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on June 15, 2013, 08:33:47 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 15, 2013, 08:30:43 PM

Funny how noone talks about how he is supposed to cash them out and get the actual money in his hands.

Localbitcoins hong kong? he is basically a celebrity right now, it shouldn't be that hard for him to find someone.

You don't seem to understand the situation he is in. He is hiding, do you understand what that means?

If he is literally hiding, like the kind of hiding that you do when you play hide and seek, than you are right i didn't understand. I assumed he was just in hongkong to stay out side of the jurisdiction of the united states. I didnt know that he was actually literally hiding under a trashcan or behind some bushes somewhere in hong kong Tongue

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Quote from: Anon136 on June 15, 2013, 08:33:47 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 15, 2013, 08:30:43 PM

Funny how noone talks about how he is supposed to cash them out and get the actual money in his hands.

Localbitcoins hong kong? he is basically a celebrity right now, it shouldn't be that hard for him to find someone.

You don't seem to understand the situation he is in. He is hiding, do you understand what that means?

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What the heck is everyone thinking here?!?!

I would find it very very hard to believe that a super tech guru, and information mastermind to not know about Bitcoin.

The $200k he made every year, he converted it all to bitcoin probably during the 2011 "bubble" and he is grinning ear-to-ear right now!

He probably came out and blew the whistle on everything BECAUSE of bitcoin... he felt "safe" knowing that he will be able to keep himself sustained while having to run around the world hiding from those you really can't hide from.

== although I thought this was a good idea too!

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It just seems so improbable that he didn't/doesn't know about BTC and that he doesn't have a stash of 10k - 100k BTC in his brainwallet!

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Quote from: Anon136 on June 15, 2013, 08:33:47 PM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 15, 2013, 08:30:43 PM

Funny how noone talks about how he is supposed to cash them out and get the actual money in his hands.

Localbitcoins hong kong? he is basically a celebrity right now, it shouldn't be that hard for him to find someone.

That sounds like an excellent way for authorities to nab him.

"I want to buy BTC. Please arrive at coffee shop on 10th street at 6 PM. ~~We'll~~ I'll meet you there."

Quote from: Sage on June 15, 2013, 10:24:20 PM

Quote from: cpengr on June 15, 2013, 10:16:05 PM

Quote from: Sage on June 15, 2013, 02:54:44 AM

Turns out Snowden has been holed up in Hong Kong, burning through all his credit cards to get this message to the world.

He's pretty much sacrificed everything for the good of us all.

(Emphasis mine.)

Citation needed.

Here is a source saying he does not want your money: Edward Snowden’s Hong Kong Interview: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know.

Quoting from the same:

Quote from: Paul Farrell

Snowden also commented on the petitions and funds that have been setup in support of the whistleblower:

"I’m very grateful for the support of the public, but I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble."

Which adds to his cred.

But the reality is eventually he will run out of money and/or all funds for him will get cut off or frozen. Whether he wants to accept it or not, he'll need financial support at that point.

Or maybe not. He was making $200k/year. Whose to say he hasn't stashed enough to live off of for the rest of his life in a suitcase somewhere?

My opinion: Respect what he says when he says he doesn't want our money.

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Quote from: cpengr on June 15, 2013, 10:16:05 PM

Quote from: Sage on June 15, 2013, 02:54:44 AM

Turns out Snowden has been holed up in Hong Kong, burning through all his credit cards to get this message to the world.

He's pretty much sacrificed everything for the good of us all.

(Emphasis mine.)

Citation needed.

Here is a source saying he does not want your money: Edward Snowden’s Hong Kong Interview: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know.

Quoting from the same:

Quote from: Paul Farrell

Snowden also commented on the petitions and funds that have been setup in support of the whistleblower:

"I’m very grateful for the support of the public, but I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble."

Which adds to his cred.

But the reality is eventually he will run out of money and/or all funds for him will get cut off or frozen. Whether he wants to accept it or not, he'll need financial support at that point.

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Quote from: Sage on June 15, 2013, 02:54:44 AM

Turns out Snowden has been holed up in Hong Kong, burning through all his credit cards to get this message to the world.

He's pretty much sacrificed everything for the good of us all.

(Emphasis mine.)

Citation needed.

Here is a source saying he does not want your money: Edward Snowden’s Hong Kong Interview: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know.

Quoting from the same:

Quote from: Paul Farrell

Snowden also commented on the petitions and funds that have been setup in support of the whistleblower:

"I’m very grateful for the support of the public, but I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble."

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 15, 2013, 08:30:43 PM

Funny how noone talks about how he is supposed to cash them out and get the actual money in his hands.

Localbitcoins hong kong? he is basically a celebrity right now, it shouldn't be that hard for him to find someone.

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