How to buy bitcoin anonymously without ID in Australia using cash?

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on January 17, 2021, 09:34:13 PM

Are sure bisq accepts cash face to face? Their cash app option is no longer available either.

They still do. See here: https://bisq.network/faq/#supported-payment-methods

I also reinstalled the app to check, and it's there. As for cashapp then AFAIK, it has been removed due to its reversible nature.

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Quote from: mk4 on December 28, 2020, 12:23:31 AM

using peer-to-peer services like HodlHodl[1] and Bisq[2] are great options.

Are sure bisq accepts cash face to face? Their cash app option is no longer available either.

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on January 16, 2021, 10:24:45 PM

What do they change? And what are the gamut of risks associated P2P platforms like Bisq? Any members been fleeced using Bisq? Should I make that a separate thread?

I personally do not have any horrible experience when using a P2P Exchange Platform, at least in my country. However, there are instances that a fraud might happen in the middle of an exchange between the buyer and the seller. It could be the following scenario.

- The reversal of payment transaction after the seller released the bitcoin from the platforms's escrow.
- The buyer is using a compromised/hack/stolen bank account which he/she will used in the middle of an exchange.
- Or perhaps, you are being told to do a different way of transacting rather than the standard/ recognized way of transaction.

There is an in-depth thread regarding this issue as well.
[1] What are the ways I can get scammed on a P2P platform such as localbitcoins?

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Bisq limits your account to 0.01BTC for 30 days for first trade buying

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Quote from: Krislaw on December 28, 2020, 08:43:41 AM

P2P platforms too are risky. You can't trust the other party 100% because some of them change when they see an opportunity to scam.

What do they change? And what are the gamut of risks associated P2P platforms like Bisq? Any members been fleeced using Bisq? Should I make that a separate thread?

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 28, 2020, 03:46:49 AM

There is no special place for that but you can check out if there are any sellers offering Bitcoin with Bisq exchange, or try try using localcryptos.com website for same thing, and you don't need kyc for using both .
If you are meeting with someone in person to buy bitcoin then better choose some public place like coffee shop with people.

I'd like to add that LocalCryptos is based in Australia so the platform may not be the best solution for op's privacy concerns, not for the long term anyway.

Obviously, you can declare that you're not a resident from Australia, but that's not something I would recommend doing, it will just get you in trouble.

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I am quoting a post made by OmegaStarScream during 2017 about bitcoins atm in Australia. So you can follow this to meet what you want. Though I am not from Australia nor I have any idea about it. But I can suggest you to use this forum's currency exchange section to buy sell your bitcoin in this forum.

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 09, 2017, 03:44:40 AM

1. We don't have them in our country but a family member once traveled and I gave him some bitcoin to withdraw them for me, the experience was very good.

2. You should find every ATM here: https://coinatmradar.com/ and this include the fees, the rating from users If they left any, the working hours and the addresses as well.

3. I find the phone a more convenient way since you will receive a confirmation for SMS and I already have my wallet on it. If you are buying bitcoins then the ATM will have a camera and they will ask you to put the QRcode in front of it so you just put your laptop and you are good. If you are selling then again, you can use the camera on your laptop to scan the QR code generated by the ATM and send them.

4. A lot of services like Coinbase, Kraken etc. allow doing that, I have never tried it myself but the fees are definitely not cheap when a third party service is involved, I suggest checking their site and compare them with the ATMs you want to use.

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Quote from: Bitbtc8 on December 28, 2020, 06:45:16 AM

You need to find P2P platforms to fully stay anonymously, binance don't require any KYC verifications but it's still a Centralized exchange, meaning you can still be tracked, go to uniswap or balancer and buy your BTC or other

P2P platforms too are risky. You can't trust the other party 100% because some of them change when they see an opportunity to scam. And for the Uniswap, you can only use it to trade ERC-20 tokens, BTC can't be traded their. And you also pay a lot of fee on decentralized exchange like Uniswap.

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on December 28, 2020, 12:06:19 AM

Does anyone know how to buy bitcoin anonymously without ID in Australia using cash? Thanks in Advance

Try LocalCoinSwap ^{https://localcoinswap.com/} or similar p2p places

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You need to find P2P platforms to fully stay anonymously, binance don't require any KYC verifications but it's still a Centralized exchange, meaning you can still be tracked, go to uniswap or balancer and buy your BTC or other

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bitcoin talk, I also can't say what the laws are in your country when it comes to buying BTC without an ID and are there any limits to which it is possible to make such a purchase. But what I found is that there are physical outlets where it is possible to buy BTC for cash, and for conditions it is best to contact them.

- https://bitcoindealers.com.au/buy-bitcoins.html
- https://fastbitcoins.com/locations

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on December 28, 2020, 03:29:08 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on December 28, 2020, 02:51:49 AM

There is no obligations nor ID involved when you are trading with other individuals face to face. It's like craig's list. You bring the money, they bring bitcoin and you two agree on the rate and make the exchange. You don't even have to know each other's names.

Local Bitcoins site (Au sellers) most appear to ask for ID and claim its the law, hence my presumption. Your 100% certain its not a law in Au to request ID when exchanging for cash?

That is a centralized website that has its own centralized rules when you sign up there and want to use their services. What I suggested simply involves two individuals that can meet anywhere on the internet (like this forum or reddit for instance) and trade between themselves.
Nobody can enforce any laws on this but I'm not an expert on Au laws, you may want to consult a professional like a lawyer.

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on December 28, 2020, 03:29:08 AM

Local Bitcoins site (Au sellers) most appear to ask for ID and claim its the law, hence my presumption. Your 100% certain its not a law in Au to request ID when exchanging for cash?

There’s a reason why I recommended HodlHodl and Bisq(and NOT LocalBitcoins) is because LocalBitcoins requires AML/KYC.

As to your question, you might want to do research on it as I really can’t answer as I’m not from AU. But then again, if you’re transaction peer-to-peer(like you exchanging money with a friend) and not with a business, why would an ID be needed?

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There is no special place for that but you can check out if there are any sellers offering Bitcoin with Bisq exchange, or try try using localcryptos.com website for same thing, and you don't need kyc for using both .
If you are meeting with someone in person to buy bitcoin then better choose some public place like coffee shop with people.

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Quote from: catfight on December 28, 2020, 01:56:45 AM

hello you can buy btc with skrill or binance exchange but not anonymously because at this time many carder are using credit card to buy bitcoin so you can't buy btc without id verification...

Will they still ask for ID if I hand over cash?

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Quote from: pooya87 on December 28, 2020, 02:51:49 AM

There is no obligations nor ID involved when you are trading with other individuals face to face. It's like craig's list. You bring the money, they bring bitcoin and you two agree on the rate and make the exchange. You don't even have to know each other's names.

Local Bitcoins site (Au sellers) most appear to ask for ID and claim its the law, hence my presumption. Your 100% certain its not a law in Au to request ID when exchanging for cash?

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on December 28, 2020, 01:09:38 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on December 28, 2020, 12:15:14 AM

The most anonymous way is doing the trade face to face with other bitcoiners and with cash.

Are they obliged by law to insist for ID?

There is no obligations nor ID involved when you are trading with other individuals face to face. It's like craig's list. You bring the money, they bring bitcoin and you two agree on the rate and make the exchange. You don't even have to know each other's names.

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hello you can buy btc with skrill or binance exchange but not anonymously because at this time many carder are using credit card to buy bitcoin so you can't buy btc without id verification...

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Quote from: bitcoin talk on December 28, 2020, 01:08:26 AM

Can you throw some names around of no-ID ATM companys in Au or links please?

Unfortunately I'm not(and never been) to Australia, though you can check out Coin ATM Radar[1]. Just lookup your address and look around your area and look for an ATM that doesn't require IDs.

[1] https://coinatmradar.com/

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You don't need ID or KYC verifications to buy bitcoin in australia, just go to binance exchange and signup, Australians are welcome on binance exchange, or do research on decentralized exchanges, you don't have to go through any verifications to buy or sell on decentralized exchanges

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